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OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard Again Available on the Apple Online Store
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"for professionals" - I'm a professional. ML works great at the OS level, my experience across devices is much more consistent (because I have to travel) and the experience continues to improve. For my work (software development), ML continues to exceed my expectations and deliver performance, functionality and usability for all of the different environments I need to work in, including Windows-via-Parallels. My gripes with the OS tend to be around things that OS X has under-delivered on for years - i.e. Corporate integration and a Calendar implementation I'd love to throw across the room. For my play/hobby (Photography / Music) ML also continues to deliver. There's nothing that I did in SL that I can't do now and now there's better integration across my devices. Again, I travel.
While you are certainly entitled to your opinion, and you seem to share the same essential post any time you get the opportunity, to refer to mobile devices as iToys is cute and overused, but also inaccurate. They are exceedingly powerful in the right hands. And combined with a powerful mac of whatever variety, I can personally do more across more environments than I can with Windows or Linux (and I use both every day - from OS X
). ML isn't perfect, but neither was SL. ML is also a transitional OS. While Microsoft went to a combined mobile/desktop OS in one go with Windows 8, Apple is taking a more staged approach, but as you and others have pointed out, it is happening and will continue to do so. It only makes sense and is nothing to freak out about. It's a good thing and isn't the end of the world.
You don't like versions? Turn it off. http://osxdaily.com/2012/07/11/disable-auto-save-and-versions-in-mac-os-x/
I agree that Mission Control is garbage compared to Expose, but other than that it seems like ML is far better than SL.
Only issue I can think of is Messages... on a regular basis it'll take up 2 GB of RAM, and I only have 3 GB in my computer. Does anyone else have issues with it being a memory hog?
Only issue I can think of is Messages... on a regular basis it'll take up 2 GB of RAM, and I only have 3 GB in my computer. Does anyone else have issues with it being a memory hog?
I disagree, I don't see the whole 'ipadification' as such a bad thing. I just don't use it. But to me it doesn't make it bloatware that it's in there.
further, I hated Expose and Space and thought they were a cumbersome mess. And I love Versions.
And I certainly prefer Mountain Lion's iCloud document support over that hot mess that was syncing in Lion.
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So I just edited 20 hours of green screen footage for digital matte compositing (on a major motion picture I'm not at liberty to name) on a "toy" as I was using an iMac and not a Mac Pro to link to my render farm.
Thanks for that heads up.
Different people have different needs and just because they don't need what you think they should have or do what you think they should be doing doesn't make them any less professional or their chosen rigs any less a 'real computer'. Put your ego back in your pants and move on. Use what you want and let the rest of the world do the same.
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iCloud doesn't work on Snow Leopard.
Apple is only releasing this back into the store in such an easy to order way because of folks potentially getting iPads and iPhones for the holidays. but make no mistake, their intention is that it will be a path for folks to get Mountain Lion to use things like iCloud.
Apple has always been about folks getting to the latest software and hardware as soon as possible. That's why they don't back support any further than they have to. That's why they finally dropped PowerPC support from the OS (to get those folks to move to Intel machines), and so on. It's easier for them to train their support teams when the options are more limited. Which is why they also don't OEM their software to other hardware makers. And don't ever expect that to change because it is the only 'Steve did it' that is likely to stick.
Apple should give the option for versions to be turned off.. even if its a hidden feature. I would have used this looong ago the day I got Lion.
For me, and others, Versions is a PITA.
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Ah cooool...!
i love versions. why wouldnt i want to be able to go back in time w/ my docs?
and i also really enjoy the cloud sync stuff w/ the OS and my idevices. notes, lists, messages...love them. adds more value to my time.
Exactly. You can't go around saying that ML is bad for pros because it's unprovable. It's all about opinion.
...uh dude? youre high. if you dont think macbooks or ipads are full computers, what can we say? youre high. not everybody needs a truck.
if you feel the tools billed as iphones & ipads are merely toys, then youre doing it wrong. they help me and countless others manage our businesses and organize our lives. as tools they offer value, just like any other tool. and like other tools, they dont all offer the same value to everyone. and thats fine.
riiight. are you not aware of apple's business model? theres a reason they earn the most consumer satisfaction polls.
can you expand on this? what sort of "professional" are you, and how have you been blocked from doing your business? be specific.
because im an enterprise .NET developer and i have no trouble being a professional on mac. thus, your statement is bunk.
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NO THEY DO NOT!! I'm so sick of this money grubbing rumor. You don't need snow leopard to install mountain lion. Burn the DMG on a disc or a mount it on a flash drive. If you feel the need to do everything "legitimately" by buying an OS that you're never going to use just to be able to update to the newest one, then feel free to waste your time and money.
SL is great. It seems more like a Mac computer than ML. All three of my Macs run ML but I occasionally need to slide the SL disk into the MP for a couple of small tasks. If it wasn't for the compatibility of iTunes libraries, iPhoto libraries, Aperture libraries and the Mail database I would be tempted to return to SL.
About Versions...
I agree that most of the stuff in Lion and Mountain Lion are good. I like them more than Snow Leopard, but I do have a problem with Versions.
I love Versions on Pages, Numbers, Keynote, just about everything, but NOT on iBooks Author. With iBooks Author, it creates a new version of my 300MB book every hour. It doesn't save the changes, it creates an entire new version. I have to add the interactive stuff right before I submit it to the store because otherwise I have no hard drive left. The constant saving also slows my computer.
I realize that I can just go and delete the old versions, but that's a pain. If I go version by version it takes about 20-30 seconds to delete each one. Yes I have an older computer, but spending 10+ minutes deleting versions of a file that I don't want versions for is crazy.
I wish we had the option to shut it off for certain apps.
I agree that most of the stuff in Lion and Mountain Lion are good. I like them more than Snow Leopard, but I do have a problem with Versions.
I love Versions on Pages, Numbers, Keynote, just about everything, but NOT on iBooks Author. With iBooks Author, it creates a new version of my 300MB book every hour. It doesn't save the changes, it creates an entire new version. I have to add the interactive stuff right before I submit it to the store because otherwise I have no hard drive left. The constant saving also slows my computer.
I realize that I can just go and delete the old versions, but that's a pain. If I go version by version it takes about 20-30 seconds to delete each one. Yes I have an older computer, but spending 10+ minutes deleting versions of a file that I don't want versions for is crazy.
I wish we had the option to shut it off for certain apps.
Snow Leopard is my favorite of the OS X series, with Mountain Lion in second place. Lion is my least favorite. Lion was often slow and buggy, but Mountain Lion fixed some of those issues. Two things I miss from Snow Leopard are te Aqua Scroll Bars, and Rosetta, which I used to be able to play Marble Blast Gold. Luckily I can always make a separate partition and run Snow Leopard as well
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The main reason people have been asking for SL has been that you need it to upgrade. And the Reason people need to upgrade has been the iPhone 5 and iOs6's iCloud services.
But SL was never totally gone. Even if the Search in the Apple online Store found SL but no attached product, after MLion was introduced you could still get SL from Apple. All you had to do was call the 0800er Nr and apple would gladly ship it to you. But it is good that they have reintroduced it into the online Store.
The main reason people have been asking for SL has been that you need it to upgrade. And the Reason people need to upgrade has been the iPhone 5 and iOs6's iCloud services.
But SL was never totally gone. Even if the Search in the Apple online Store found SL but no attached product, after MLion was introduced you could still get SL from Apple. All you had to do was call the 0800er Nr and apple would gladly ship it to you. But it is good that they have reintroduced it into the online Store.
It's only there so that everyone can buy OS X ML via the Mac App Store legit.
10.6 was a gr8 OS at the time, but we move on.
10.6 was a gr8 OS at the time, but we move on.
If you put them together to make S&ML would it be better still?
Seriously though, I'm in the SL is best camp. This move just needs to be followed by "New Macs can run SL again", to bring us all back into the market for new Macs, which we have hardly been since Lion's release.
If you live in a decent rented apartment and decide to build yourself a new house, you don't go and live in it until it's finished. The state of Mac OS X at the moment is like an unfinished house. They keep bolting bits of iOS to it, but nothing really feels unified or complete.