No! Bendgate is real!

McGiord · Nov 25, 2012

Time to stop wasting your time in a very serious Internet forum for Apple fans, and study more for your materials science degree, Apple will not hire you, and all the others might be interested if you get into painting plastics.
So the Aluminum frame is less stiff than the Glass...

virginblue4 · Nov 25, 2012

jetlagged said:
i did my research and like i said iphone 5 will eventually scuff off with normal usage if you read my research paper professor.

Sorry but your exact words were "they are not complaining that the phone will eventually scuff with normal use." - But YES, people are complaining that the phone will scuff with usage.

Whether or not you agree with their complaint, that's a different story. But don't say people aren't complaining about something, when they are.

Krazy Bill · Nov 25, 2012

VinegarTasters said:
So you can't sit on it,

It's not ass-proof!?!?

Steve Jobs: You're putting it in the wrong pocket.

racer1441 · Nov 25, 2012

If you sit on your phone you deserve it bending.

teknikal90 · Nov 25, 2012

I still think my iPhone 4S is a tank, dropped it multiple times and no visible damage.stainless steel is tougher than aluminium
Especially stainless steel 8080 professional edition
(Ps I made that last bit up)

Jtludwig · Nov 25, 2012

teknikal90 said:
I still think my iPhone 4S is a tank, dropped it multiple times and no visible damage.stainless steel is tougher than aluminium
Especially stainless steel 8080 professional edition
(Ps I made that last bit up)

What is it with all these people dropping their phones?

dukebound85 · Nov 25, 2012

shenfrey said:
If it bends, just bend it back? Surely the laws of physics also works with the iPhone?

and like a paperclip, this continuous bending propagates the dislocations in the metal to the point it just snaps in half!

2298754 · Nov 25, 2012

I don't believe this bending none sense one bit. People are trying to blame Apple for putting the phone in their back pocket and sitting on it.

jetlagged · Nov 25, 2012

virginblue4 said:
Sorry but your exact words were "they are not complaining that the phone will eventually scuff with normal use." - But YES, people are complaining that the phone will scuff with usage.

Whether or not you agree with their complaint, that's a different story. But don't say people aren't complaining about something, when they are.

Alrite professor, people complain that the phones are coming out scuffed out of the box, but also there are people who complain that the iPhone 5 is prone to scuffing and will eventually scuff and that's just the way it is and yes unless you're out of the 30 day period of return, it justs makes it difficult.

Can you proofread my comment professor, I think there's a run on sentence there somewhere

lunaoso · Nov 25, 2012

I thought this was gonna be another myiphone7 thread... Disappointing.

meistervu · Nov 25, 2012

Simple solution: put the phone in the other way and sit on it. Repeat until it is straight.

However I must warn you that I have no experience with this. I started with much more fragile and bulkier phones than an iPhone, so the thought of sitting on it never occur to me, plus it can't be comfortable.

But I thought I would offer my wisdom like someone witnessing another person with a tongue stuck to a frozen pole

vastoholic · Nov 25, 2012

meistervu said:
I started with much more fragile and bulkier phones than an iPhone, so the thought of sitting on it never occur to me, plus it can't be comfortable.

Agreed. I can't even keep a wallet in my back pocket anymore because it is so uncomfortable.

serkan · Nov 25, 2012

Thanx for the info.I liked reading it . But what can we do about it ? How can we tell apple about this want something like, do they listen us

Jtludwig · Nov 25, 2012

vastoholic said:
Agreed. I can't even keep a wallet in my back pocket anymore because it is so uncomfortable.

Have you guys seen the Seinfeld episode where George is sitting on the really thick wallet?

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Blorzoga · Nov 25, 2012

VinegarTasters said:
iPhone 5 is prone to bending. It was a buy, now a no-buy

Instead of using Aluminum 6061-T6 (tempered), Apples uses regular Aluminum 6061, which is so soft any stress will bend it. So you can't sit on it, and it
will bend by itself if, internally, there is enough stress from screws and glue.
It will bend at the weakest point, usually the volume buttons because that is
where the big holes are on the outer metal that is holding the integrity of the iPhone 5.

I am hoping they can change to 6061-T6 aluminum. "HOPING" because using it may interfere with the precision of the cuts, which may make it impossible. It may add weight to the device though.

Also, SCUFFGATE is real. Instead of using type III anodizing (hard anodizing), Apple uses instead type II anodizing. Which is why all over the internet your iPhone 5 has these dents and specks.

It is a no sale until Apple uses 6061-T6 Aluminum or 7075 Aluminum, and uses type III anodizing for the outer coat of the aluminum. Or go back to using
stainless steel. I am surprised they didn't catch these problems during prototyping and designing stages.

I think they will only fix it if enough people want them to use the new type of aluminum or anodizing process. I don't think this is a minor problem.

So, don't buy one. I don't think apple will go out of business if you don't buy one. Others who actually take care of their phones and don't sit on them will make up for you huge decision.

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SiPi said:
OP whats your source on this?

Any proof to backup your claims?

Your signature line is quite offensive.

meistervu · Nov 25, 2012

What you need is an app for it, seriously. Let me explain.

The phone is probably more likely to bend one way than another, so if you have an app that count the number of times you sit on the phone one way, and the other way, then keep track of the difference and apply the equalizer factor which is related to the tendency of the phone to bend one way or the other, then voila, the app can suggest which way to sit on your phone the next time.

It's a simple solution. I am surprise there isn't one in the App store yet, considering how many competing flash light apps there are.

ixodes · Nov 25, 2012

VinegarTasters said:
iPhone 5 is prone to bending.

Oh please, this is the most bizarre, unfounded claim I've read in a very long time.

If one is applying enough pressure to bend the iPhone 5, they are being completely irresponsible.

Furthermore, to actually believe Apple's engineers would be so inept, reflects more about you than them.

Radiating · Nov 25, 2012

VinegarTasters said:
iPhone 5 is prone to bending. It was a buy, now a no-buy

Instead of using Aluminum 6061-T6 (tempered), Apples uses regular Aluminum 6061, which is so soft any stress will bend it. So you can't sit on it, and it
will bend by itself if, internally, there is enough stress from screws and glue.
It will bend at the weakest point, usually the volume buttons because that is
where the big holes are on the outer metal that is holding the integrity of the iPhone 5.

I am hoping they can change to 6061-T6 aluminum. "HOPING" because using it may interfere with the precision of the cuts, which may make it impossible. It may add weight to the device though.

Also, SCUFFGATE is real. Instead of using type III anodizing (hard anodizing), Apple uses instead type II anodizing. Which is why all over the internet your iPhone 5 has these dents and specks.

It is a no sale until Apple uses 6061-T6 Aluminum or 7075 Aluminum, and uses type III anodizing for the outer coat of the aluminum. Or go back to using
stainless steel. I am surprised they didn't catch these problems during prototyping and designing stages.

I think they will only fix it if enough people want them to use the new type of aluminum or anodizing process. I don't think this is a minor problem.

To put it politely: You have no idea what you're talking about at all.

As an engineer let me clear some of this nonsense up.

Hard Anodizing does not absorb vibrant colors from dye. When you hard anodize stuff it is impossible to acheive a bright silver look like that found on unibody Macbooks. Or the blue tint found in the slate iPhone 5 and iPad mini.

Apple uses type II anodizing because it would be impossible for them to use anything thicker. Hard anodized stuff that's dyed looks like taking a can of vibrant paint and adding a bunch of brown to it. Imagine how your iPhone would look in that color.

As to the type of alloy they used. It would be incredibly to put it politely... not smart for them to use 6061-T6 over 6061. The tempered varriant shatters and cracks around edges and corners (like the edge of the band and the back). It would be practically impossible to make the phone so thin and light out of 6061-T6. It would just shatter at the slightest bit of force along the seams. You could break it into peices by holding it with your hand.

Because 6061 bends along the seams instead of cracks it makes the design of the iPhone 5 possible.

Apple made the iPhone out of the best and most durable materials they could. You aren't smarter tham them.

In short: the op does not seem to be informed on the subject he's discussing.

Shrink · Nov 25, 2012

Radiating said:
To put it politely: You have no idea what you're talking about at all.

As an engineer let me clear some of this nonsense up.

Hard Anodizing does not absorb vibrant colors from dye. When you hard anodize stuff it is impossible to acheive a bright silver look like that found on unibody Macbooks. Or the blue tint found in the slate iPhone 5 and iPad mini.

Apple uses type II anodizing because it would be impossible for them to use anything thicker. Hard anodized stuff that's dyed looks like taking a can of vibrant paint and adding a bunch of brown to it. Imagine how your iPhone would look in that color.

As to the type of alloy they used. It would be incredibly to put it politely... not smart for them to use 6061-T6 over 6061. The tempered varriant shatters and cracks around edges and corners (like the edge of the band and the back). It would be practically impossible to make the phone so thin and light out of 6061-T6. It would just shatter at the slightest bit of force along the seams. You could break it into peices by holding it with your hand.

Because 6061 bends along the seams instead of cracks it makes the design of the iPhone 5 possible.

Apple made the iPhone out of the best and most durable materials they could. You aren't smarter tham them.

In short: the op does not seem to be informed on the subject he's discussing.

Thank you...

tymaster50 · Nov 25, 2012

ixodes said:
Oh please, this is the most bizarre, unfounded claim I've read in a very long time.

If one is applying enough pressure to bend the iPhone 5, they are being completely irresponsible.

Furthermore, to actually believe Apple's engineers would be so inept, reflects more about you than them.

Explain antennagate.

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Radiating said:
To put it politely: You have no idea what you're talking about at all.

As an engineer let me clear some of this nonsense up.

Hard Anodizing does not absorb vibrant colors from dye. When you hard anodize stuff it is impossible to acheive a bright silver look like that found on unibody Macbooks. Or the blue tint found in the slate iPhone 5 and iPad mini.

Apple uses type II anodizing because it would be impossible for them to use anything thicker. Hard anodized stuff that's dyed looks like taking a can of vibrant paint and adding a bunch of brown to it. Imagine how your iPhone would look in that color.

As to the type of alloy they used. It would be incredibly to put it politely... not smart for them to use 6061-T6 over 6061. The tempered varriant shatters and cracks around edges and corners (like the edge of the band and the back). It would be practically impossible to make the phone so thin and light out of 6061-T6. It would just shatter at the slightest bit of force along the seams. You could break it into peices by holding it with your hand.

Because 6061 bends along the seams instead of cracks it makes the design of the iPhone 5 possible.

Apple made the iPhone out of the best and most durable materials they could. You aren't smarter tham them.

In short: the op does not seem to be informed on the subject he's discussing.

Dude you just set yourself up for tons of replies and the "As a fellow engineer" mini-meme I started again lol.

jon3543 · Nov 25, 2012

ixodes said:
Oh please, this is the most bizarre, unfounded claim I've read in a very long time.

If one is applying enough pressure to bend the iPhone 5, they are being completely irresponsible.

Half the bendees are idiots who read about bendgate and then obsessively decided to determine how "easy" it is to bend an iPhone. Apple is the worst thing that's ever happened to the OCD community.

vastoholic · Nov 25, 2012

tymaster50 said:
Explain antennagate.

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Dude you just set yourself up for tons of replies and the "As a fellow engineer" mini-meme I started again lol.

Easy to explain antennagate. Lack reliable of real world testing. Majority of it was spent in a controlled environment behind closed doors.

iapplelove · Nov 25, 2012

I'm not even kidding the other day I did try to bend it and put a good amount of pressure on it but couldn't get any play out of it what so ever.

tymaster50 · Nov 25, 2012

jon3543 said:
Half the bendees are idiots who read about bendgate and then obsessively decided to determine how "easy" it is to bend an iPhone. Apple is the worst thing that's ever happened to the OCD community.

mine actually did bend from real world use, I don't know if it was the otterbox case, the tight ass case of my friends, or maybe just pure luck.

darbyclash34 · Nov 25, 2012

I myself had an iPhone 5 bend at the volume down button after the second day of ownership, no physical damage to the device, never put in a back pocket, anything like that. I had noticed the display didn't sit right out of the box, by the next day the aluminum was bent. I had it replaced, have not had the issue again. I have also seen multiple other people with the same issue, in person and its always at the volume down button.

No! Bendgate is real!

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