you crazy.
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Let's get one thing straight: Ping never had an ounce of potential. Ever.
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iTunes 11 to Launch as Soon as Thursday?
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you crazy.
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Let's get one thing straight: Ping never had an ounce of potential. Ever.
Based on what law? None. If they wanted to make two totally different versions they can and will
Looking forward to these, hope the damm "problem" with itunes asking for password/login apple id everytime i open its fixed 
Opinion, not fact. I have a right to have and speak mine even if you disagree. But your disagreement doesn't give you the right to 'correct' me like I'm some six year old that 1+1=5
Hey, I liked the idea behind ping! Too bad nobody used it.
On the topic of taking your time with software...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UjZQGRATlwA&sns=em
How has nobody posted that yet?
I never said it was the law, but consumers expect it since has been that way since it was first released. Apple needs to keep that field level in order to sell to Windows users. It would be foolish to think that Apple can convince even a majority of their iOS device users who use iTunes to move to the Mac.
ETA: It also mostly worked that way for other products that Apple made for Windows - Quicktime, Safari....
Thanks! I'll give this a go.
I typically use Vox and have it set as my default media player since the memory usage on it is RIDICULOUSLY low (10-15mb). The problem with it is that it doesnt have a library.
I would use Enqueue, but its somewhat buggy but has great potential to knock out iTunes. The developer also screwed the UI with some changes when it was looking great.
Umm, yes it was... Read the following excerpted from your link (Bolding added by me):
In early 2000, Apple wanted to purchase MP3 player software for use with Apple's desktop computers. Apple sought meetings with both Panic and Casady & Green. Caught up in negotiations with AOL, Panic was not able to set up a meeting with Apple.[2] Turning instead to Casady & Greene, Apple purchased the rights to the SoundJam MP software in a deal covered by a two-year secrecy clause.[3]
Working as employees of Apple, Robbin, Kincaid and Heller continued to develop the software which would become iTunes.[3] All three continue to work at Apple; Robbin is the lead developer of iTunes.[4][5]
On January 9, 2001, Apple debuted iTunes 1.0 to the public. Curious Macintosh users immediately began poking through iTunes' resource fork, where they discovered numerous strings and other resources that indicated iTunes was a re-engineered SoundJam MP.
Then simply don't use iTunes. Enough alternatives out there, e.g. Sonora, Enqueue, Vox, Fidelia, Audirvana, Cog, Ecoute, Songbird etc.
Essentially Ecoute reads your iTunes library database. No reimporting anything and no need for iTunes to be open. The developer is giving away this version for free while he works on the next.
It had potential, but face it, Ping ended up sucking. I wished it was gone after I first saw it in iTunes.
I don't know anyone who used it. I thought the idea had potential, but Apple botched it. It's just plain annoying, and it comes across as more of a gimmick to get you to buy more iTunes Store music. I think Apple could have done a good job with it, but I wouldn't use it anyway since I don't really care what my friends listen to. Most of them listen to terrible, terrible music or decent but somewhat boring stuff like the Black Keys, and I listen to music of genres that aren't really produced anymore, so it wouldn't be useful to me.
"launch as soon as" - I would rather call it at the very edge of Apples second promise.
Not that I care about iTunes, its a dead dinosaur to me. Thanks to iCloud, Spotify and other good services.
APple is really pushing the limits when it comes to promises, releasedates and delays these days. Would be good for their reputation if actually one release was a bit ahead of time for once.
Not that I care about iTunes, its a dead dinosaur to me. Thanks to iCloud, Spotify and other good services.
APple is really pushing the limits when it comes to promises, releasedates and delays these days. Would be good for their reputation if actually one release was a bit ahead of time for once.
iTunes does a great job of being annoying at first and coming across as bloatware with all of its Ping and automatic download junk. Try going into the parental controls and disabling the iTunes Store, Ping, etc and disabling all the extra features like Genius. iPod syncing shouldn't make it more bloated except in file size since it's not running if you don't have one. Before I had an iPhone, I disabled the iTunes Store and Ping, but now I just disable Ping. Of course, you can use an old version of iTunes if your PC supports it.
But a 200GB library
is going to take a lot of RAM just because it has to load the song titles and stuff. That has to be 30K to 40K songs, and each one must take a few kilobytes for the strings and overhead. You can sort items by various criteria, so that's definitely not a simple data structure like an array unless they keep multiple arrays of song pointers, one for each sort method. Considering this, 200MB seems fair.----------
Overrated, yes, but they have potential to make money and do have a few uses. Facebook does have a real purpose I can think of; it's good at managing groups. I hardly use any social networking, just Facebook if I want to ask my friends questions about homework. And I only do that because they use Facebook for messaging instead of something nicer like AIM, which all of my friends used to use.
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iTunes does a great job of being annoying at first and coming across as bloatware with all of its Ping and automatic download junk. Try going into the parental controls and disabling the iTunes Store, Ping, etc. iPod syncing shouldn't make it more bloated except in file size since it's not running if you don't have one. Before I had an iPhone, I disabled the iTunes Store and Ping, but now I just disable Ping. Of course, you can use an old version of iTunes if your PC supports it.
But a 200GB library
My iTunes library was around 3 TB last time i checked and about half of it is music. iTunes works fine here.
