Not trying to be a dick but if you're even semi serious about gaming on a PC you might as well just build your own and get a cheaper iMac, by the time you pay for all the upgrades it's probably going to be a cheaper option than souping up an iMac that isn't going to be able to cut the mustard now and into the future.
Touch screen is even worse for graphic artists and drafters because you need to be able to quickly make pixel perfect clicks and drags with out missing 3 times with your big finger in the way of what you are trying to see to click on.
Adopt me please?
The GPU on the high end 27" is pretty damn close to one. You'll easily be able to run just about any game at native resolution with all the settings bumped up about as high as they'll go.
I can't help but think that I can undercut apple here and make a profit. Wanna do business??
Not even close. The mobile 650m gets 1282 on passmark while the desktop version of the 650 gets 2727. Thats more than a little difference. Not to mention the desktop 650 is hardly high end. In fact even the highest end 675m scores lower than the desktop 650 despite having a higher series number.
675m scores 2490 on passmark.
670 desktop scores 5253.
There will be a time and a place. Niche machines with the features you describe have been around for years. However, Microsoft is betting that 2012/2013 is when touchscreen desktops become mainstream. Apple is betting that now is not the time. I tend to agree with Apple as far as desktops are concerned. Most users don't need touchscreen desktops right now, and they don't really add much now.
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I was saying that, even without VAT and every tax in the book, the EU price is still bloated in comparison with the US one.
Purchased 3 fully loaded iMacs. 1 27 for me and 2 21 inchers for my 8 year old twin daughters (they hate sharing).
maybe it's just me, but it doesn't seem too ergonomic to have a touchscreen for a desktop. a tablet.. yes.. but desktop my arms would have to keep hovering in the air frequently to do tasks if i were to really forego the traditional keyboard/mouse
The high end GPU on the iMac is a 680MX, which is about...I think...20% faster than the 675MX.
...maybe I'm overestimating the power of the thing. I guess I'll have to go look it up later and see how right or wrong I am.
maybe it's just me, but it doesn't seem too ergonomic to have a touchscreen for a desktop. a tablet.. yes.. but desktop my arms would have to keep hovering in the air frequently to do tasks if i were to really forego the traditional keyboard/mouse
Purchased 3 fully loaded iMacs. 1 27 for me and 2 21 inchers for my 8 year old twin daughters (they hate sharing).
There will be a time and a place. Niche machines with the features you describe have been around for years. However, Microsoft is betting that 2012/2013 is when touchscreen desktops become mainstream. Apple is betting that now is not the time. I tend to agree with Apple as far as desktops are concerned. Most users don't need touchscreen desktops right now, and they don't really add much now.
Notebooks may be a different story. It will be interesting to see how the Surface Pro and other Windows 8 Ultrabooks fare over the next year or so. They could potentially replace 10" tablet devices as the road warrior machine of choice, though I think that the 7-8" tablets such as the iPad mini will exist as a separate device for a lot longer.
If Apple does add touch capabilities to OS X, it will be to the MacBook line first, not the iMac, and likely as a specialty product. That's my prediction.
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The idea of touchscreen computers in desktop or laptop form just physically don't make sense from a real-world use sense. Even in the case of the AIO touch screen PC's that tilt so that they operate more like a drawing or drafting table, it's not natural to move from screen touches to keyboard/mouse/trackpad as you physically need to back away from the screen. It might be different if computer use were simply pushing buttons or sliding sliders across a screen, but that is NOT where we are at right now.
Yes, there are use cases like photo or art manipulation that don't necessarily require keyboard input and may be perfect for a touch screen computer form factor that can be used in a horizontal position on a desk, but that isn't the general use case MS is promoting for their touch screen os.
My guess is that the better idea for on-screen manipulation will be the non-touch hand, eye and voice controlled gestures and operations - but technology isn't there yet.
Are all four memory slots located in the back near the power cord? Would it make sense to purchase the 27 iMac with 8gb of memory and upgrade my self to save money?
It's "bloated" by 10%. That's hardly offensive compared to the likes of Adobe's pricing scams.
And besides, that 10% is Apple's buffer against shifting exchange rates. They don't like to change their product pricing during its shelf life. It causes people to hold off for bargains that may never appear.
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...which is the second time I've posted this picture today, in response to the same tired argument.
Most people griping about monkey arms or whatever are only doing so because Steve Jobs said something back in the day, and now they're regurgitating it nonstop in an attempt to look smart.
You know, he was right...when it comes to vertically standing monitors. But for screens you can slide right in front of you and tilt back? There's no reason not to have them touch enabled. They'll be as comfortable to use as an iPad.
No, it's a stupid argument ESPECIALLY for designers like in the picture. A wacom cintiq like have been around forever with a pen is awesome. But putting your grubby fingers on a screen you are designing on is completely stupid.
Me Again said:Keep in mind that when I'm talking about touchscreens, I'm also assuming they'll have a digitizer onboard as well. Touch by itself is COMPLETELY useless on a desktop.
I almost hit someone for touching my screen trying to point something out to me. "jerkface, your fingers don't belong on my color calibrated screen."
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No mention of the RAM or upgrade pricing? I'd say some folks are drinking the coolaid.
My physical therapist was expensive but I can now walk without any problems.
Surely that price can't be right! The same system costs 2.649,00 euros ($3.444,79) in Germany...
I was about to buy a 27 inch, but noticed its over $100 in sales tax. I was under the impression buying online will void sales tax. There is also a gray-ed out option to pick up in store. Do you think when the 27 inches are available in stores, I will be able to purchase then, tick that box, and go pickup in store before some people that ordered today are even shipped their imacs?
Anyone praising Windows 8 will never realize the total power of UNIX and never mind the quality of materials this iMac provides.