I want to agree with you but I think over 90% of the population have never opened a PC...
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I want to agree with you but I think over 90% of the population have never opened a PC...
Not really, I am not that into these types of websites to be honest, I like more tech news and less gadgety news, I might go for the uk site the register for example, but engadget has some respectability at least, gizmodo too, not too bad... the verge is simply unbearable in the way they suck up to apple, and the fanboism that ensues, I for once can't stomach it...
Very disappointing, I'm also glad I've got the 2011 model, I love the way the new one looks, but it not being user serviceable is a problem, this means repairs & upgrades will come at a premium cost..
Apple probably benefits from this move, but we certainly don't..
Apple probably benefits from this move, but we certainly don't..
Nah...don't bother to explain it to them...they will learn the hard way when they have to pay 600 just to get a Harddrive repaired. And believe me: they will wail!
Me? I love Apple Notebooks and work primarily on a 13" Retina MacBook Pro. I don't care for upgradability there as much, because I know exactly what it can do and what not and after a couple of years you just need to get a new one anyway. I was actually going to buy the 27" iMac but this made this a no buy for me. Instead I just ordered all the parts for a nice Windows gaming rig and a screen which I can use together with my MacBook Pro. All for less then 1500
LOL! Apple's slipping standards are infectious.
it's those ever thinning dictionaries and grammar books!!
(Come to think of it I am glad apple isn't in charge of designing other items, I shudder to think what would happen if they took up for example elevator design or submarine design... or, em,
condom design.. it'd be a pretty tight world that's for sure...)Pretty sure your wrong, the most common upgrades people make is Memory & Hard drives..
Huh, I had my hard drive in my 2011 27" fixed for free. And will be able to until September of 2014, then I'll be on the market for something new.
I get it, people get hard ons for tinkering, but remember the vast majority of computer users don't. They call support, they take them to repair shops, most people just don't care to tinker or have the knowledge.
Do you bitch when most of your car's internals aren't designed to be user repairable?
proprietary SSD connector
It will be very interesting to learn if the SSD connector is soldered on the 27".
It will be very interesting to learn if the SSD connector is soldered on the 27".
This thread pretty much mirrors the exact same complaints when the first iMac came out that had an integrated design (the first one after the lamp-style ones).
In general people that need upgradability aren't buying iMacs. They have ALWAYS been a pain in the ass to take apart. For awhile they didn't even have a RAM compartment. Seriously the number of complainers VASTLY outweighs the number of people who have actually taken one apart.
The 27 inch iMac still has upgradable RAM through a special compartment, so it's still a possibility with that model.
Just get over it, there is no need to be upset over something you can't control and something you don't need to care about.
In general people that need upgradability aren't buying iMacs. They have ALWAYS been a pain in the ass to take apart. For awhile they didn't even have a RAM compartment. Seriously the number of complainers VASTLY outweighs the number of people who have actually taken one apart.
The 27 inch iMac still has upgradable RAM through a special compartment, so it's still a possibility with that model.
Just get over it, there is no need to be upset over something you can't control and something you don't need to care about.
That's always been the case though, it's not an excuse for apple to mar how upgradable and repairable their computers are, I think you 'll agree there. Anyway I said countless people have opened up and repaired/upgraded their computers, even 1% of the computer using population amounts to millions of people.
When I first saw the iMac, I thought Apple would have created a small door in the back to open to get to the hard drive and memory really easy.
"Apple has swapped out the 3.5 desktop hard drive for a 2.5 HGST laptop hard drive, freeing up valuable space."
I don't understand why this is "valuable space"? It's a desktop, space is plentiful and since it's on the back of the monitor it doesn't take up any desk space...
A 3.5" drive that's cheaper (and probably faster) seems to make more sense than a 2.5" drive that's more costly and likely slower. (Unless of course you replace it with a SSD.)
Gary
I don't understand why this is "valuable space"? It's a desktop, space is plentiful and since it's on the back of the monitor it doesn't take up any desk space...
A 3.5" drive that's cheaper (and probably faster) seems to make more sense than a 2.5" drive that's more costly and likely slower. (Unless of course you replace it with a SSD.)
Gary
I agree, am also glad I have a maxed-out 2011 iMac. Just a quick example of WHY this matters: today I took my computer to an AASP because of an annoying coil whine coming from the top.
Turns out it was the PSU that needs replacement. The technician showed this ON THE SPOT, after just pulling the outer glass and unscrewing the LCD part. Final cost? USD 200, split between 110 for the PSU plus 90 for the service (this in Switzerland, the country with one of the highest manual labor rates in the world).
And why this relatively cheap rate? Because it barely takes 30min for him to replace the PSU. Now think about how much costlier would such a repair be on the new iMac...
The lack of repairability and DIY upgradeability on their main "desktop" computer is depressing.
When car manufactures did something similar by really limiting what DIY people could repair at least they extended the factory warranties from 1 year to 3 years. Shame Apple couldn't follow that example.
When car manufactures did something similar by really limiting what DIY people could repair at least they extended the factory warranties from 1 year to 3 years. Shame Apple couldn't follow that example.
Biologicals and glue are different things
Granting that I'm not too bright, but if that means what I think it means...nasty, nasty, nasty.
You're right about one thing. The most common upgrades are, indeed, memory and hard disks. On the other hand, the original statement which you disputed is *also* correct. Less than 10% of computer-owning individuals have ever so much as opened the case, much less actually performed an upgrade themselves.
Us technologically inquisitive and competent folks are less common than you assume.
Wow!!! Thank you for saying that. I couldn't agree more! After buying many Apple devices over the years the last "upgrades" of iMacs, MacBooks, iPads and iphone5 are a huge disappointment to me. To the point that I lost any desire upgrading to a new Apple device. Now looking into alternatives.
Don't forget more reliable.
It's this insane race towards some perceived stylishness, or whatever it is, that always frustrates me with Apple. I wouldn't be surprised if there's some odd caveat about swapping in a new SSD.
Thinness for thinness's sake should just be labeled as anorexia.
They do though you have to pay for it with Applecare. Perhaps reduce the cost of Applecare across the board for all models.
I agree, am also glad I have a maxed-out 2011 iMac. Just a quick example of WHY this matters: today I took my computer to an AASP because of an annoying coil whine coming from the top.
Turns out it was the PSU that needs replacement. The technician showed this ON THE SPOT, after just pulling the outer glass and unscrewing the LCD part. Final cost? USD 200, split between 110 for the PSU plus 90 for the service (this in Switzerland, the country with one of the highest manual labor rates in the world).
And why this relatively cheap rate? Because it barely takes 30min for him to replace the PSU. Now think about how much costlier would such a repair be on the new iMac...
Probably about the same. Of course, your 2011 iMac probably still should have been under warranty (unless Switzerland doesn't share the 2-year minimum that's common across most of Europe).
Load of rubbish. Have you ever been on iFixits site? Looked through thier guides? I have used them many times to upgrade components and have never bought anything from iFixit. It's not rocket science the new gen of macs are not made to be user servicable, hence the low scores, not a markerting conspiracy theory. My 2009 iMac is very serviceable , and thanks to ifixit guides I have stripped it down and upgraded the hdd, ram, ssd, and an additional hdd in place of the DVD.
Ummm upgrading the CPU in a mac!?!?!?! Lol....Well that one line explains you would never try to upgrade something yourself. Hint the while line comes with soldered on CPUs. Unless you means the mac pros..... But no issues with servability when it comes to those.