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What Would Make You Return to the iPhone?
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Why it seems like a bad decision, it is actually a smart business move. They will sell a ton and be even more profitable than they are now. It just pisses us off
Yup. And therein lies the problem. Not for Apple, though, but for us who want just a bit more.
Larger (and wider) screen. I find that my SG Nexus with 4.65" is perfect for me.
Better keyboard/ ability to install third party apps along the lines of SwiftKey.
If those two things were possible, I'd switch. I really like my Nexus and having nothing against android, but it would be nice to have everything in one ecosystem.
Better keyboard/ ability to install third party apps along the lines of SwiftKey.
If those two things were possible, I'd switch. I really like my Nexus and having nothing against android, but it would be nice to have everything in one ecosystem.
And they do if for affordability. Older models are cheaper, smaller models are cheaper.
The iPhone 5 is already the "small" model. If Apple were to release multiple sizes, 4" would presumably be on the low end. They wouldn't release multiple sizes going downward from 4". So we're paying big prices for what would be a small end model. One might argue we're getting ripped off, essentially. It's quite a premium to have what would be a "small" model. :T
I remember it really wasn't all that long ago that people wanted their phones to be smaller and smaller:
It's funny how the trend is now the total opposite. We should give a eugoogly for the small phone. Is anyone here a good eugoogliser?
Multiple screen sizes to officially end this stupid argument is number one on my list.
I'd also like toggles to be an option, the ability to make notification profiles, a total redo on the crappy excuse for notifications, that's the bulk of it for me. I think hardware wise the iPhone is great. But iOS is capable of so much more than apple will allow. Basically if I could jailbreak on day 1 I'd be happy- better yet just start taking the hint and include a lot of the jailbreak features in iOS 7.
If they don't truly wow us with iOS 7, I don't think they ever will. Just a stupid theory I have. But I feel like 2013 has to be the turning point for iOS or we will probably never see it.
I'd also like toggles to be an option, the ability to make notification profiles, a total redo on the crappy excuse for notifications, that's the bulk of it for me. I think hardware wise the iPhone is great. But iOS is capable of so much more than apple will allow. Basically if I could jailbreak on day 1 I'd be happy- better yet just start taking the hint and include a lot of the jailbreak features in iOS 7.
If they don't truly wow us with iOS 7, I don't think they ever will. Just a stupid theory I have. But I feel like 2013 has to be the turning point for iOS or we will probably never see it.
It's funny, but not that funny.
The phones from the past are not the same as phones today. Likewise, phones are used differently today. It's really not that hard to comprehend the changing trend.
Making phones in the past smaller means a different thing than what a small phone today is. Likewise, making a phone larger today means an entirely different thing than what constituted a large phone from the past.
If you think about it, it's really irrelevant to invoke that people wanted smaller phones in the past. They're not on the same linear spectrum of phone sizes.
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Let me further explain with photos.
These are 80's cell phones:
And here are 90's:
Wanting to get these guys smaller makes perfect sense.
Fast forward to today, here is the iPhone:
And here are what "larger" cell phones look like:
Asking to go back to "large phones" does not mean we're going back to anything--not even close--we've seen in the past. So I guess it's funny, but not really that funny.
Woah, I'm not saying people wanting bigger phones is a bad thing, nor am I saying people are stupid for wanting bigger phones now when they wanted smaller phones in the past. It's pretty obvious that phones now are used for a far wider variety of uses than they were in the past, I'm not arguing that at all! I'm just saying it's amusing that the trend is now to push the size of phones larger and larger, whereas the complete opposite was true not that long ago (and people used to make fun of other people with bigger phones- e.g. one of my friends bought an N-Gage and was mocked for holding a 'frisbee' or 'dinner plate' to his head, whereas phones of that size are the norm now). It just goes to show that what's popular today may not last.
I always wanted my super fashionable, tiny Zoolander phone, I never got it.
Damn you Apple and Google and your smartphones! (I'm joking, I could never go back to a feature phone.)
Woah, I'm not saying people wanting bigger phones is a bad thing, nor am I saying people are stupid for wanting bigger phones now when they wanted smaller phones in the past. It's pretty obvious that phones now are used for a far wider variety of uses than they were in the past, I'm not arguing that at all! I'm just saying it's amusing that the trend is now to push the size of phones larger and larger, whereas the complete opposite was true not that long ago (and people used to make fun of other people with bigger phones- e.g. one of my friends bought an N-Gage and was mocked for holding a 'frisbee' or 'dinner plate' to his head, whereas phones of that size are the norm now). It just goes to show that what's popular today may not last.
I always wanted my super fashionable, tiny Zoolander phone, I never got it.
Woah I know. No worries, mate. Just saying.
Plus it was fun to look up old phones.
You know what else needs to absolutely change? Being able to fully turn off Game Center. I HATE that it asks me to sign in every time I load up a game. Is there a way to turn it off completely that I just don't know off? Jesus.
I already have everything off in the notification settings under Game Center.
iOS 6 finally stopped booting us out every time we download an app from the App Store but now they'll bother me with Game Center instead. It's stuff like this that really drives me nuts, apple.
Edit: I just googled it and apparently other folks have noticed this about iOS 6 as well. Many would like to fully disable Game Center too. As far as I can tell there is no way to. Apple... It's stuff like this...
I already have everything off in the notification settings under Game Center.
iOS 6 finally stopped booting us out every time we download an app from the App Store but now they'll bother me with Game Center instead. It's stuff like this that really drives me nuts, apple.
Edit: I just googled it and apparently other folks have noticed this about iOS 6 as well. Many would like to fully disable Game Center too. As far as I can tell there is no way to. Apple... It's stuff like this...
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When that gaudy casino-style screen slides up...
Game Center is pretty lousy. I fear opening that app.
At least OpenFeint is now dead so you don't have two of them constantly nagging and bothering you. Apple has a lot to learn when it comes to making a good online gaming service. Game Centre is a lame, nasty-looking ripoff of XBox Live/Steam, which doesn't do anything anywhere near as well as MS', or Valve's, system.
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Three things.
1. Larger screen
2. Use materials less prone to scuffs/scratches
3. Ability to jailbreak easily
1. Larger screen
2. Use materials less prone to scuffs/scratches
3. Ability to jailbreak easily
Just started reading the interview with Tim Cook on Bloomberg. This particular passage seems to suggest that Ive's role in software will be primarily aesthetics. There may not be the major overhaul to iOS that we're all asking for in this thread...
Cook: "Jony has done a remarkable job leading our hardware design, so let’s also have Jony responsible for the software and the look and feel of the software, not the underlying architecture and so forth, but the look and feel."
Full interview here: http://www.businessweek.com/articles/2012-12-06/tim-cooks-freshman-year-the-apple-ceo-speaks#p1
Cook: "Jony has done a remarkable job leading our hardware design, so let’s also have Jony responsible for the software and the look and feel of the software, not the underlying architecture and so forth, but the look and feel."
Full interview here: http://www.businessweek.com/articles/2012-12-06/tim-cooks-freshman-year-the-apple-ceo-speaks#p1
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Yes, but I believe Cook delegated iOS to Eddy and Craig. Ive is really just a visual design guy, from what I can gather. This doesn't mean there won't be an overhaul, iOS is still in completely different hands.
Ah, I see. Thanks for clarifying.
Also, the last question in the interview is quite a touching anecdote regarding Jobs and Cook. Very nice.
An anecdote thats now part of your biography is that Steve Jobs told you, Dont think what I would do. Is that true, and if so, can you tell the story?
http://www.businessweek.com/articles/2012-12-06/tim-cooks-freshman-year-the-apple-ceo-speaks#p10
Apple and Tmobile enter into agreement. Will release Apple products to Tmobile. No details, so far, but what else could it be?
Wonder how Tmobile's subsidized pricing will look like...
Wonder how Tmobile's subsidized pricing will look like...
Exactly.
If I just wanted a device for voice calls I'd be looking for something no bigger than the minimum comfortable size of a phone keypad - or maybe a wristwatch phone (years ago I saw a calculator watch that you used by tracing numbers with your finger... the owner didn't realise it was a calculator).
What I want (and I know other people who think this way) is a pocket computer, media player, personal organiser, GPS and internet terminal which can be used as a phone almost as a last resort. I don't want to have two mobile contracts to cover a phone and a tablet (even tethering usually costs extra if you follow the rules).
Something like a Galaxy Note 2 may be bigger/heavier than most phones but it does the job of a phone and a 7" tablet.
I've always wanted to make do with an iPad when on the road, but there always seems to be some reason why I need my MacBook, so I'd end up carrying a MacBook (for serious work), an iPad (for instant-on internet, games and media) and a phone (...and a Kindle as well, but that's another discussion...). A "phablet" plus MacBook is a much more sensible combination for me.
You are, of course, perfectly free to have different preferences - if, for instance, you can do everything on a 10" tablet then a tablet +smaller phone will do fine.
Incidentally, I never carried one of those 80s/90s "portable as a brick" phones, but I did carry one of these:
...and the later 3a (Best. Mobile. Device. Ever... OK it would be laughably limited now, but for its time...) and, later, one of these:
...so the Galaxy Note 2 does feel pretty small and light for what it does.
I used to use an iPhone as my _Primary_ Smartphone_ out of the two or more phones I carry daily.
Why carry two or more? One's my personal phone and the other is my business phone. Typically I'd toss a third phone in my laptop bag, just for testing and evaluation. Being a long time mobile computing and communications enthusiast, I've been buying unlocked, unbranded phones from a few overseas distributors for years.
It's fun to try GSM phones that we do not get in this country. For those who may not be aware, gsmarena.com is a great place to see thousands of phones, along with specs and pictures. If you want something different that what our carriers limit us to here, check out the site.
To the iPhone most specifically, the reason I _stopped_ using it as my primary phone, is it's tiny screen.
I'm the type of user a smartphone is designed for, as I use all the features. That of course means I use it for internet when traveling and under circumstances that do not permit tablet use, or laptop use. Therefore the larger the screen, the faster and more comfortable I can be while getting my work done.
So, in order for me to "return to the iPhone" it must have a screen that's at least 4.8". That's the size of the display on my SGS III, the minimum size for my preferences. The 5.5" on my Galaxy Note II is really great. Since I have large hands, it's very comfortable, has ideal ergonomics and great battery life.
Apple would do well to either increase the current size, or keep it, then offer a second iPhone with a larger display. This obsession of "one handed" use is something that seems to be largely confined to the Apple community. No one I know is burdened with this obsession. The current "normal sized" Galaxy S III is proof, as sales volume is growing unabated.
The very moment Apple gives me a modern sized contemporary phone, I'm all in.
I used to use an iPhone as my _Primary_ Smartphone_ out of the two or more phones I carry daily.
Why carry two or more? One's my personal phone and the other is my business phone. Typically I'd toss a third phone in my laptop bag, just for testing and evaluation. Being a long time mobile computing and communications enthusiast, I've been buying unlocked, unbranded phones from a few overseas distributors for years.
It's fun to try GSM phones that we do not get in this country. For those who may not be aware, gsmarena.com is a great place to see thousands of phones, along with specs and pictures. If you want something different that what our carriers limit us to here, check out the site.
To the iPhone most specifically, the reason I _stopped_ using it as my primary phone, is it's tiny screen.
I'm the type of user a smartphone is designed for, as I use all the features. That of course means I use it for internet when traveling and under circumstances that do not permit tablet use, or laptop use. Therefore the larger the screen, the faster and more comfortable I can be while getting my work done.
So, in order for me to "return to the iPhone" it must have a screen that's at least 4.8". That's the size of the display on my SGS III, the minimum size for my preferences. The 5.5" on my Galaxy Note II is really great. Since I have large hands, it's very comfortable, has ideal ergonomics and great battery life.
Apple would do well to either increase the current size, or keep it, then offer a second iPhone with a larger display. This obsession of "one handed" use is something that seems to be largely confined to the Apple community. No one I know is burdened with this obsession. The current "normal sized" Galaxy S III is proof, as sales volume is growing unabated.
The very moment Apple gives me a modern sized contemporary phone, I'm all in.
I can understand the one handed thing, but Apple go about it all wrong.
Samsung created a feature that allows you to use the keyboard one handed even though the screen is a whole 1.5" bigger on the Note 2.
Apple just whine and complain, rather than thinking outside the box.
