Mmm like most of the costumers i see everyday?
'almost'. they're the minority
Mmm like most of the costumers i see everyday?
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Apple has released updates for both the iOS and Mac versions of iWork. The iOS versions of Pages, Numbers and Keynote have experienced more significant updates, while the Mac versions have been updated mainly to support the iOS changes.
but my wife runs Office on her MBP and it's buggy as heck, ...(which always seems to be the case).
As far as I can tell, the newly updated Pages still does not allow me to automatically save or open documents in MS WORD format, the format 100% of my clients use, so, nice as Pages is, it'll remain mostly unused on my iMac.
So you are upset that MS is making improvements to their products to benefit those of us that use them all of the time and rely on them for our living? Are you proposing that instead they should stall the products and keep them outdated so that occasional users don't have to spend a small amount of time learning where the buttons for basic functions are now located?
There is even a very simple workaround offered by MS where they allow you to edit the quick access toolbar to include as many or as few functions as you desire. So occasional users could almost certainly have all of their commonly used functionality available via a single click on the (ever-present) quick access toolbar.
You also have to remember that for completely new users of Excel, learning to use the Ribbon is undoubtedly easier than sifting through the old menu commands from 2003.
As soon as Office for iOS is out, I'm done with the iWork suite for good. I've already made the change for the desktop. Why bother with "exporting" to an Office format, when the MS makes the program native?
Oh snap, @everything-i...looks like @Stu-Pid put your anti-MS bias back in its place (which is in the same garbage pile that contains the "I hate anything that isn't Apple" rants from Apple fanatics).
It never ceases to amaze me why there's so much venom directed towards anything that isn't made by Apple.
So before you think all Apple fans hate MS for some unknown reason, be aware that there is more to the story than you think.
So, my number one request would be a PC-based viewer for Keynote files.
So before you think all Apple fans hate MS for some unknown reason, be aware that there is more to the story than you think.
A whole bunch of spreadsheet functions are missing, for starters. Despite its much prettier interface, I've had to dump Numbers in favor of LibreOffice because of it.What do you think is missing?
So they should cater to the folks who barely use the program?
So you are upset that MS is making improvements to their products to benefit those of us that use them all of the time and rely on them for our living? Are you proposing that instead they should stall the products and keep them outdated so that occasional users don't have to spend a small amount of time learning where the buttons for basic functions are now located?
There is even a very simple workaround offered by MS where they allow you to edit the quick access toolbar to include as many or as few functions as you desire. So occasional users could almost certainly have all of their commonly used functionality available via a single click on the (ever-present) quick access toolbar.
You also have to remember that for completely new users of Excel, learning to use the Ribbon is undoubtedly easier than sifting through the old menu commands from 2003.
My point is, why not cater for all users, not just folks that use it all day long every day. There should be an option to switch so its easier to migrate meaning you don't have to relearn the whole thing in one go. Only providing ribbons with no option to revert and migrate your skills to the new system over time was just lazy. If you have been using office since word 6 then switching from the old system to ribbons was a major undertaking because you have to unlearn 15 years of skills and build up new ones and if you don't use the software all day every day that takes a significant amount of time.
I don't think all Apple fans hate MS for some unknown reason; I was criticizing @everything-i for hating MS because they were catering to their Excel power users. That isn't a good reason to "spit venom" at MS. Catering to your core users who rely on your app to make a living is what a company SHOULD be doing.
Did you even read the posts or did you immediately jump to conclusions like many Apple fanatics? If you want to hate MS for other reasons, go for it. But read the thread first to understand what my comments were directed at.
No people that don't use it day in day out all day long, like most users. The ones that use it maybe every other day to review documents and maybe create a document once a week.
I would assume that "most users" of Office are business users and we use the programs more than every other day.
MS deserves every bit of venom they get spit their way. They've offered products and services over the years that were unintuitive and problem riddled, creating a whole new market for companies that were set up just to fix MS's problems. They were and still are more of a behemoth than Apple is - even if Apple has more cash and dollars earned.
Frankly I don't know why so many people keep defending MS - they haven't exactly been a saintly company over the years and for those that harp on Apple because they're "so big, so popular" while supporting MS, it's a little hypocritical don't you think?
I've been around computers for a long time - my first computer class was a punch card computer class to give you an idea. My first word processing experience was on my university's mainframe computer system, which was a horrid user experience, given it was not WYSIWYG. When I first used a 1984 Apple Macintosh, I can remember saying to my then roommate who had the Mac, that this is how typing should be, given it was one of the first real WYSIWYG word processing computers out there.
MS, for those not old enough to realize this, has been "borrowing" Apple ideas and designs for decades. I can remember MS blatantly copying menus and file images from Apple back in the late 80's and early 90's - because they could. Apple, because they waffled on the idea of licensing their software, ended up getting passed by MS simply because of the quantity of PC's coming to market made Apple's pitiful couple of models non-competitive.
So before you think all Apple fans hate MS for some unknown reason, be aware that there is more to the story than you think.
There actually IS an an HTML export option, but that's a lot less portable than a single file, and I believe it requires Safari to run, and almost nobody in the PC world runs Safari. I had my web guy look at the output and he said there was a whole lot of weird custom stuff in the HTML that would make it really hard to embed in our company's website.Now that would be awesome!
Maybe export to a self-contained HTML5 show that can be run from any compliant browser?
THIS x 1000.It is just to lacking in programability and as such needs a built in scripting environment.
How about working on and releasing new desktop versions of iPhoto and the rest of the iLife suite??