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Inconsequential

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I thought I'd put together a little guide for people who wish to get SATA III on their 2009 or 2010 Mac Pro 4,1 or 5,1 which is also, crucially, bootable, with the option of having eSATA ports too.

I will include how to get the power to these additional drives. I will be soldering the connections, but you could use term blocks instead.

For the purpose of this guide, I will be placing a 3.5" HDD and two 2.5" SSDs in the second Optical Drive bay.



What you will need
Host card: Highpoint Rocket 640L Lite (£60) or Highpoint RocketRAID 640L Lite (£100)
SATA III cables 100cm (£5 ea)
Silverstone 5.25" to 3.5" & 2.5" Bay Converter £13
Power and Data extension cable (~£7)
SATA Power Splitter (~£3)
2-Port SATA to eSATA Adapter Plate (£3)





Booting & TRIM
Now, the following screenshots shows the card in System Profiler when my Intel 320 300GB SSD is connected to it. It comes up as a AHCI Serial-ATA card running at 5GT/s Link Speed at x2 Link Width (I.e. 2x PCI-E v2), which theoretically gives us 1GB/sec bandwidth across all four drives. Actually, it is a theoretical max of 800MB/sec due to 8/10b encoding. This is still a damn site better than the 660MB/sec TOTAL MAX THROUGHPUT that the onboard ports can achieve. I.e. Even if you have 4 500MB/sec SSDs in RAID 0, you still only get 660MB/sec. I've never personally tested this limit, but have a search for this.

Please also note that OS X says that TRIM IS ENABLED. IF it is or not is another question altogether...

Fully_Fitted_Sys_Pro.png


Trim_Blocks.png


MPSIIISS-02.jpg





Performance
I currently haven't received my new SSD (A Samsung 830 256GB), so these benchmarks show my Intel SSD using onboard SATA II and the Highpoint cards SATA III. Please note I ran the benchmark at different settings as the blocks written for a 4K frame against a NTSC frame are alot larger and hence you get better sustained speeds.

Intel 320 300GB (Rocket 640L @ SATA II speeds)
Intel_320_300GB_640L_4K.png

Intel_320_300GB_640L_NTSC.png


Intel 320 300GB (Internal SATA II)
Intel_320_300GB_Intel_4K.png

Intel_320_300GB_Intel_NTSC.png


Samsung 830 256GB (Rocket 640L @ SATA III speeds)
SATA 3 performance figures:
Samsung_830_640L_4K.png

Samsung_830_640L_NTSC.png


Samsung 830 256GB (Internal SATA II)
Samsung_830_Intel_4K.png

Samsung_830_Intel_NTSC.png



Transferring from Intel on SATA II to Samsung on SATA III:
SSD_to_SSD.png






Installation Photos
Two wires running along to the card.
MPSIII-01.jpg



Fit perfectly through the hole here. It is like Apple wanted us to do this.
MPSIII-02.jpg

MPSIII-03.jpg



Put the backplate on and the wires come out with the ODD power and data. Simples!
MPSIII-05.jpg



5.25" to 3.5" and 2x2.5" adapter full:
IMG_0336.jpg

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All working perfectly!!!
 
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Spacedust

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I got miniSAS to 4xSATA in optical bay :) There exactly 1m of cable :D I needed to put the cable on top of the fan.
 

Inconsequential

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Small update after I have been running this config for a week. Works perfectly, including sleep, no fan run up, etc.


Suggestion that trim is indeed enabled:

Trim_Blocks.png


5.25" to 3.5" and 2x2.5" adapter full:
IMG_0336.jpg




System Profiler:
Samsung_830_SATA_III.png




Samsung 830 256GB (Rocket 640L @ SATA III speeds)
SATA 3 performance figures:
Samsung_830_640L_4K.png

Samsung_830_640L_NTSC.png


Samsung 830 256GB (Internal SATA II)
Samsung_830_Intel_4K.png

Samsung_830_Intel_NTSC.png



Transferring from Intel on SATA II to Samsung on SATA III:
SSD_to_SSD.png



Still waiting for the eSATA adapter plate and the solder!! Currently using a term block to split the power...
 
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brentsg

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Thanks for the post.

I've just obtained a pair of Intel 520 series 180GB SSDs that I plan to run in RAID 0. I already have a Plextor M3 series 512GB SSD that I'm booting from in my 2010 MP.

I'm considering the various options to get the 3 SSDs running at SATA III speeds. I'm particularly curious to see if anyone's rewired the existing hard drive sleds to work with a PCI card. I'd like to keep the internal cabling as clean as possible. I'll continue to dig around here, but if this has been conquered I'd greatly appreciate a point in the right direction.
 

Inconsequential

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Thanks for the post.

I've just obtained a pair of Intel 520 series 180GB SSDs that I plan to run in RAID 0. I already have a Plextor M3 series 512GB SSD that I'm booting from in my 2010 MP.

I'm considering the various options to get the 3 SSDs running at SATA III speeds. I'm particularly curious to see if anyone's rewired the existing hard drive sleds to work with a PCI card. I'd like to keep the internal cabling as clean as possible. I'll continue to dig around here, but if this has been conquered I'd greatly appreciate a point in the right direction.

You can't re-wire the backplane unfortunately.

You'd need a decent SATA card (the one I use wouldn't be good enough) to run three SATA III SSDs at full tilt.

You'd really need to mount them all in the 5.25" bays to enable the use of the power there.
 

mokeiko

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You can't re-wire the backplane unfortunately.

You'd need a decent SATA card (the one I use wouldn't be good enough) to run three SATA III SSDs at full tilt.

You'd really need to mount them all in the 5.25" bays to enable the use of the power there.

Could you post photos of the power and sata connections, also post photos after you have it all soldered? Thanks.

mokeiko
 

Inconsequential

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Right new card has arrived and it is now fully up and running!!!

Fully_Fitted_Sys_Pro.png


IMG_0561.jpg

IMG_0562.jpg

IMG_0565.jpg


Lovely! :D

The wiring is abit of a mess, ideally need a shorter SATA to SATA connector, probably 4" rather than 8".

But it works...
 
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mokeiko

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I can no longer see any photos

mokeiko

*scratch that, PC at work was blocking images, figures.
 
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Loa

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Hello,

Thanks for the write-up!

One info that should be specified: 36" sata cables won't do it. It's tight enough with 39" (1m) cables. A lot of people in the USA may round up the 36" to 1m. In this case, the 3 missing inches will be very significant!

Loa
 

Inconsequential

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Hello,

Thanks for the write-up!

One info that should be specified: 36" sata cables won't do it. It's tight enough with 39" (1m) cables. A lot of people in the USA may round up the 36" to 1m. In this case, the 3 missing inches will be very significant!

Loa

I have a fair amount of slack with my 100cm wires, so you might just about get away with 36"?

But yes, if you want to be sure 100cm, >39" wires would be required.
 

pyzon

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I have 2 36" cables ordered and delivered for a similar project i.e. running from PCIe to Optical Bay, could any point to a good set of 1mtr + Sata cables that will support Sata III and be backward compatible? seems 1mtr cables are hard to find over here or at least for me...i don't mind the price once they are not a bottleneck..cheers..and thanks for the details/pics etc..invaluable.
 

Loa

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I have a fair amount of slack with my 100cm wires, so you might just about get away with 36"?

Looking at your pics, I noticed that the card has ports that point towards the front of the Mac: maybe 36" will work. My sata3 card only has ports that face the side of the Mac, forcing the cables into a longer path. That's probably why my 1m cable is so tight.

Loa
 

mokeiko

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Looking at your pics, I noticed that the card has ports that point towards the front of the Mac: maybe 36" will work. My sata3 card only has ports that face the side of the Mac, forcing the cables into a longer path. That's probably why my 1m cable is so tight.

Loa

Mine (Highpoint 1m cable) points towards the front as well, it gives me a lot of slack that I don't really need at the optical bay, but I can't complain.

Sorry for the bad photo.

mokeiko
 

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Loa

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Mine (Highpoint 1m cable) points towards the front as well, it gives me a lot of slack that I don't really need at the optical bay, but I can't complain.

I'm still using the ASM1061 card (as I only have 1 sata3 SSD, and I enjoy the esata port all in a single PCIe slot), and it's much shorter, in addition to the sideways port.

Good to know that 36" cables will be enough if I switch to the Highpoint in the future.

Loa
 

mokeiko

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I'm still using the ASM1061 card (as I only have 1 sata3 SSD, and I enjoy the esata port all in a single PCIe slot), and it's much shorter, in addition to the sideways port.

Good to know that 36" cables will be enough if I switch to the Highpoint in the future.

Loa

For clarification, I'm using an ATTO R644 PCIe.

mokeiko
 

Inconsequential

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Been hammering it, restarting into Windows and god knows what and I hasn't missed a beat.

So 100% working, as it should do. Good times!
 

AjeeB

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hello, does the ASM1061 or any RocketRaid need any OSx modifications (kext...etc)
and does it ... boot ? combined with Fusion drive .
BR
 
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