So you now admit that other companies didn't rip off Apple like you said all over this forum? Okay, thanks, that's all I wanted.
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Apple Fixes Australian Map Error That Caused Police Warning, Issue Traced to Official Gazetteer
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So you now admit that other companies didn't rip off Apple like you said all over this forum? Okay, thanks, that's all I wanted.
But Apple sued Samsung over a rectangle with rounded corners, neither of which apple invented.
I agree with your first point. However, I'm not sure Apple Maps has "proved" anything other than being a complete disaster at this point.
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I laugh at all the issues that keep arising.
I haven't had one single problem with Apple maps. I love it. It works (for me). Goodnight.
I haven't had one single problem with Apple maps. I love it. It works (for me). Goodnight.
They can't sue Apple. Apple didn't infringe on any Google mapping patents when they made their own maps.
I dont blame Apple. I blame TomTom. They are the main supplier of data to Apple maps (as stated directly in the app itself) and are arguably the best name in GPS.
For Apple to individually check each and every address is not possible. It is unfortunate that we the public have to help fix the data.
At least in this case there was a timely fix. When I reported a problem to Google many years back, they took years to fix it.
Personally I have had no issues with it and am enjoying the turn by turn built in.
The other day I was lost and I said to siri 'take me home siri' and sure enough I got directions back home.
For Apple to individually check each and every address is not possible. It is unfortunate that we the public have to help fix the data.
At least in this case there was a timely fix. When I reported a problem to Google many years back, they took years to fix it.
Personally I have had no issues with it and am enjoying the turn by turn built in.
The other day I was lost and I said to siri 'take me home siri' and sure enough I got directions back home.
Apple didn't make a single Map. They copy and pasted second hand data. Apple wouldn't have the first clue about creating maps. If they had, they would have got someone to check the thing before it was released. You will always get small errors, but some of the mistakes in the app that are being reported show that they thought they could throw any old carp out the door and the iSheep would lap it up.
No wonder cartography is up a creek with no paddle if people think Apple created any of their own maps.
Why are Apple not to blame? Who took the data and stripped it down to the bare minimum so it would cost almost nothing? Apple did. Who released a Map app with more flaws than a North Korean missile? Apple did.
Trying to do this on the cheap is once again biting them on the backside.
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How can they rip off something that doesn't exist?
There's never been a fully Google made maps app for iPhone. It was always been Apple's interface using Google's map data.
... responding to one official police warning at a time. This may take a while.
This! For data to be updated quickly, one must lodge a police complaint and the police must give a warning.
Anyone stupid enough to just blatantly follow a map for miles and miles without having previously done a bit of checking is just down right stupid. I don't trust any of these mapping services and that includes Google. I have always when planning a trip checked out a few map sources and then compared it to what is in my Garmin. I've had Garmin maps take me off the beaten path before, but because I had actually looked I knew something was wrong. These mapping programs are simply meant as a guide and certainly shouldn't ever been used in place of common sense. Then again not everyone has common sense!
Good work Apple. Now to fix the rest of the worlds maps.
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Essentially what Apple does with everything. Conjure up a device and get everyone else to slap it together.
Nothing of whats inside an Apple device is completely its own. Which is hilariously stupid when I hear someone say 'Apple is not a software company, its a hardware company' I laugh every time. The hardware thats manufactured by samsung, sony, intel, etc is Apples but the operating system code thats been written isn't Apple's?
LMFAO.
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Essentially what Apple does with everything. Conjure up a device and get everyone else to slap it together.
Nothing of whats inside an Apple device is completely its own. Which is hilariously stupid when I hear someone say 'Apple is not a software company, its a hardware company' I laugh every time. The hardware thats manufactured by samsung, sony, intel, etc is Apples but the operating system code thats been written isn't Apple's?
LMFAO.
Yes, but companies cross license competitor products all the time. Last I looked, Samsung is still manufacturing parts for Apple... The fact they are bitter competitor doesn't mean the two companies could not have come to a mutually benefit agreement.
... and in other news, Apple and Google are making a $500 million joint bid for Kodak patents...
This application is unusable in Australia. Which is one of apple's largest customers.
I have looked all over my own state and can honestly say 80% of all the towns are in completely the wrong location. Not slightly wrong, 30-40km wrong. Not a "minor" problem if you ask me. Apple realize how big of a disaster this is, hence the unusual apology. Dont try and dismiss this as a beat up by "fandroids". Im an avid apple user and this is totally unacceptable.
HILARIOUS! This is EXACTLY the reaction I expected when I pointed out the irony of Apple touting "innovation" and "invent your own stuff" and then going on to ripping off Google Maps.
Of course all the Apple apologists, like Pavlov's dogs, are going to jump in at the same time and chime "but but but...Google didn't invent maps!!!" (oh really? duh), not realizing the total HYPOCRISY they just underlined of Apple suing EVERYONE based on "innovations" they didn't invent!
The pure irony is Apple was BUILT on its own illustrious history of stealing, whether from XEROX, Creative, Palm, Cisco, Nokia, etc., or even CURRENT cases like the $368 MILLION LOSS to VirnetX last month, trying to skirt paying Motorola for infringing its 3G patents in which they'll most likely ALSO lose, and stealing MobileMedia Ideas' screen rotation technology, etc.
Apple isn't ONLY the biggest PATENT TROLL in the tech industry, it's also the biggest PATENT INFRINGER. But don't expect any Apple apologists to be able to register this fact, all they know is when Apple rings a bell with a new product launch they'll all...
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Recently I heard UK mountain rescue volunteers bemoaning the fact that they were having to rescue ever increasing numbers of walkers and climbers who were actually using their smartphone mapping apps to navigate in the hills and getting lost. Bad enough when you have a signal but very reckless when in rural areas where reception is poor.
While not denying that Apple have a lot of work to do to their mapping, people do have to take some responsibility when travelling to areas they don't know. This is true everywhere but even more so in places where getting lost can be a matter of life and death and not just an inconvenience. Hopefully the Australian Police have done everyone a favour by highlighting the stupidity of relying on mobile map apps in the wilderness.
The ability to read a map properly should be tsught to everyone at school.
While not denying that Apple have a lot of work to do to their mapping, people do have to take some responsibility when travelling to areas they don't know. This is true everywhere but even more so in places where getting lost can be a matter of life and death and not just an inconvenience. Hopefully the Australian Police have done everyone a favour by highlighting the stupidity of relying on mobile map apps in the wilderness.
The ability to read a map properly should be tsught to everyone at school.
The Register article grossly misrepresents the quality of the data source. One can actually do this search oneself: http://www.ga.gov.au/place-names/
As it turns out, there are not 2 but 33 matches on Mildura. However, only one of these are marked as a town (the correct one). The rest are other places with Mildura in the name such as Mildura Rural City which is marked with the feature code DI (Agricultural area, County, District, Local government area, Parish, Region).
So the claim that this is the fault of the Gazetteers of Australia is entirely without merit. Please edit your article to reflect that.
Makes you wonder why people are relying on such poor data to navigate through the outback. How does it work when you lose signal?
The "outback" is not where I am talking about! These are large rural cities/towns that are incorrectly placed. Signal is definately available in these areas.
HILARIOUS! This is EXACTLY the reaction I expected when I pointed out the irony of Apple touting "innovation" and "invent your own stuff" and then going on to ripping off Google Maps.
Of course all the Apple apologists, like Pascal's dogs, are going to jump in at the same time and chime "but but but...Google didn't invent maps!!!" (oh really? duh), not realizing the total HYPOCRISY they just underlined of Apple suing EVERYONE based on "innovations" they didn't invent!
The pure irony is Apple was BUILT on its own illustrious history of stealing, whether from XEROX, Creative, Palm, Cisco, Nokia, etc., or even CURRENT cases like the $368 MILLION LOSS to VirnetX last month, trying to skirt paying Motorola for infringing its 3G patents in which they'll most likely ALSO lose, and stealing MobileMedia Ideas' screen rotation technology, etc.
Apple isn't ONLY the biggest PATENT TROLL in the tech industry, it's also the biggest PATENT INFRINGER. But don't expect any Apple apologists to be able to register this fact, all they know is when Apple rings a bell with a new product launch they'll all...
You're my hero.
Okay, here's how software debugging works: You identify problems, you attempt to fix them, then you debug the fixes to make sure those fixes don't have bugs, then when all's well, you release it. The amount of incorrect data in a new mapping service has to be mind-boggling. There are places all over the world that need corrections in Apple's Maps. The fixes will take time. A lot of time. The world is a huge place, and digital maps are not as simple as they look on your screen. It isn't simply a matter of fixing a name on a map.
Just to clarify a bit: Coordinates. Those need to be retrieved for each and every area that's incorrect. I don't know how apple's planning on doing it, but I'd just fire up Google Maps. Heh.
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My mistake, sorry. Sounds like as a minimum, Apple need to have a team of cartographers in Audtralia and NZ going through key POI and checking against other maps. Probably need to ask for their money back from those who provided the data in the first place.
In Apple's defence, if they did indeed use data from Tom Tom (or another company) - they don't have their own data - how has that company managed in Australia until now?
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Not entirely true. Apple design some of their components and get third parties to manufacture then on their behalf. No different to anyone else these days. No point having a camera factory, battery factory, processor factory etc.
Apple design their devices using components that are available where possible. If required they design their own or ask third parties to tweak a design to suit their precise needs. Same goes for HP etc