Maybe it will make you feel better to think of it this way. People are either choosing an iPhone or they are not choosing an iPhone. Getting caught up in how many other phones out starts a huge deluge of parameters which you can get mired in.
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Apple Sets New High with 53.3% of U.S. Smartphone Market, Android Holds Strong in Europe
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Maybe it will make you feel better to think of it this way. People are either choosing an iPhone or they are not choosing an iPhone. Getting caught up in how many other phones out starts a huge deluge of parameters which you can get mired in.
Maybe it will make you feel better to think of it this way. People are either choosing an iPhone or they are not choosing an iPhone. Getting caught up in how many other phones out starts a huge deluge of parameters which you can get mired in.
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Good news for Apple!!
Following recent trends, I think that means the stock will go down again.
Leo
Following recent trends, I think that means the stock will go down again.
Leo
Pretty impressive in light of there only really being one style of phone from Apple, as compared to the plethora of Android hardware offerings.
The thing is, the iPhone 5 is so far ahead of the Android phones now. Apple did some amazing things with the A6 to the point where i don't think the Android manufacturers are really even trying to compete with it anymore. For example, benchmarks show the Quad Core Galaxy S3 is underpowered compared to the A6 in the iPhone 5. What's more important though is Samsung didn't even bother to bring the Quad Core S3 to the United States. Here, it's just dual core and the dual core S3 is not even in the same league with the iPhone 5. And because of subsidizing in the U.S., you can have all that the iPhone 5 offers over Android phones without actually paying more or at most maybe $100 compared to cheapest ones. The iPhone 5 is only $127 at Walmart now!
Samsung and Google are happy enough to focus on the low end to mid range. That's where their biggest sellers are. It works well for them and there is nothing wrong with that. When Apple makes a new phone, they always target the high end. They don't design new phones for the low end market or mid range market. And it serves them well also.
Not sure I agree. I live in Ireland and buying and managing an iPhone/smartphone is MUCH better here than in North America. The phone is usually around 150 euros (subsidized) and the plans are more comprehensive, shorter and less expensive than in NA (my family lives in Canada).
I'm not sure if it's the same throughout Europe but in the UK/Ireland, it's much better than North America.
Agreed. iPhones are crazy expensive in Western Europe... but, as they have basically the same prices in Poland (mid-east Europe), means they are "are u ******* nuts?" expensive here
Anyways, dueo to pricing iPhones are limited in availability to well paid professionals and to... business owners. The latter often buy iPhones with their contracts to sell them later at auctions - while their stick with their old Nokias, which are more sensible I guess, being that they're cheap and having long battery lives.
And thank god for that
So it's nice that Apple gains marketshare and so on - I like their products, but I'm never going to buy at Apple Polish online store or from their resellers in my country - I just don't like to be mugged
its 679 here without a plan, thats not much more than in the US after tax and a plan where u can get the iPhone 5 for 1-50 is only 40-50 a month. in the us u pay 199$ AND crazy sums like 80$ and more a month if im not mistaken. its even cheaper in austria and england. i fail to see how the iphone is "crazy expensive" in the EU.
If I understand correctly... these are quarterly share of sales, not overall market share (number of handsets in use by everyone over time). I wish I was wrong.
Samsung is definitely not looking at the low/mid-range with the Galaxy and Note lineup. I think the S4 will naturally outperform the iP5. Samsung has realized it's not about the money, it's about competing with Apple in terms of features and quality. I'd agree that maybe the Nexus 4 isn't competing in the higher end of smartphones which is a shame because I like the native Android more than the skins that HTC and Samsung throw on top of them and having a phone with more powerful hardware running it would be intriguing.
Phone cost is important. But it's also important to look at the entire "package" or total cost of ownership.
This means Phone (subsidized or not) + phone/data plan.
So while it might be more expensive to buy the phone in country X - the total cost of ownership (including plan) might be more/less/same as in country Y.
This means Phone (subsidized or not) + phone/data plan.
So while it might be more expensive to buy the phone in country X - the total cost of ownership (including plan) might be more/less/same as in country Y.
Or, I don't know, maybe you could get the Nexus 4 for $300. Would $350 stop someone from buying an Apple device?
samsung s3 dying young
some users s3 galaxy died less than age 1.
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Some-Samsung-Galaxy-S-III-units-are-dying-young_id37944
some users s3 galaxy died less than age 1.
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Some-Samsung-Galaxy-S-III-units-are-dying-young_id37944
You forgot marketing. Go to any shopping mall and Galaxy is advertised everywhere. Same thing on TV. Every other commercial I see is for an S3 or Note. Sporting events, award shows, TV shows, concerts all sponsored by Samsung Galaxy. The amount of advertising Samsung has spent on the Galaxy line has certainly helped it increase market share. Though Morgan Stanley analysts claim Samsung is taking share from other Android OEM's more so than from Apple.
I would not take Kantar results too seriously. After big three wireless carriers announced their sales figures after the summer quarter, Kantar's estimates for iOS turned out much lower than the official figures. 35% vs. 47% if my memory serves me right. They could be under estimating if they are using the same methodology or they could be overestimating to make up for the mistake over the longer term.
Comscore reports Android is #1 in the US. People can skew it however they want. None of these "Market Research" firms will release their data to let us see because where would they get their notoriety and hits from then? On top of that there is no possible way they can know with 100% accuracy any of this. It is all based on sources and long telephone lists of people to call and ask... "How many X did you sell and how many do you have in stock".
The UK is known to be cheap for phones and contract. I think it's more expensive on the continent.
In almost al European countries, the iPhone is offered by all major carriers, so as far as Europe is concerned this is not much of an issue.
Phone prices won't go up, they will simply be unsubsidized. You do realize that the US is the only country where you can't buy phones unsubsidized easily? In almost every other country you can buy a phone with or without contract, so unsubsidized phone prices are fairly common in Europe.
The Samsung Galaxy S3 is MUCH cheaper than the iPhone 5 (like I said, ~€200 cheaper).
I bet the monthly fee would be rather high.
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HTC One X or Galaxy S III aren't mid-end, they're high-end, and they're much cheaper than the iPhone 5. This is a real threat, take Europe as an example. Android phones are much cheaper there, and as a consequence the iPhone is less popular.
Apple's profit in the US is largely dependent on AT&T and Verizon. That's a bit scary.
Remember these are just sales & we all know most apple consumers upgrade frequently.
So this does not necessarliy mean more users/market share, just sales.
May be other phone users are happy with their phones functionality and don't require upgrading twice a year.
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Correct and it looks good for the company who funded the research.
So this does not necessarliy mean more users/market share, just sales.
May be other phone users are happy with their phones functionality and don't require upgrading twice a year.
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Correct and it looks good for the company who funded the research.