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Yields of 27-Inch iMac Displays Expected to Improve Next Month
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I don't see how it could ever be as bad as a tower. I cleaned out behind my desk just last week, and somehow...I dunno, I'm still trying to figure it out...all the speaker wires came together and formed this sorta giant cocoon-chamber-thing. It's was weird as hell and more than a little scary. I'm not ashamed to admit I was a little...
...perturbed.
Long story short, I ended up getting lost for about 2-3 days. Found myself in this strange place, far, far larger on the inside than out, and filled to the brim with giant spiders. Even weirder, there were other people there, all caught in the giant web woven by the giant spiders. It was a hellish experience.
Here's a shot of it I took with my iPhone.
That's Aunt Gladys on the left. We haven't seen her in months. The family figured she finally went senile on us and died in a ditch somewhere upstate. Turns out we were only half right.
Fortunately, I was able to find a old rusty sword to defend myself with. After much hacking, slashing, and other things I'm not proud to admit to doing, I managed to not only get out, but clean the space behind my desk.
...and that's when I decided to get an iMac.
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1440p panels are a bit long in the tooth but you are not looking at waiting for a month or more elsewhere. Or for a premium for that matter. The Monoprice panel is on waiting list just since it is sold out at $390.
Netflix quality better than DVD or god forbid Blu-Ray - Not true and don't get me started on variety/depth of content in their library.
Thumb Drives are even less permanent than DVD's/CD's/BR. Try and find a 60GB thumbdrive for permanent storage.
The main reason, as I see it, for getting rid of the internal superdrive is to "superdrive" you to pay for Apples cloud download of content you already own or even better buy their external superdrive and add more wires to a beautiful computer.
And reflections?
I don't know about this Monoprice monitor in particular, but focusing on only one name in the title or one specification, and claiming two complicated pieces of technology is identical under the hood can lead to folly. Sort of like assuming all USB3 external hard disks have the same read/write speed or all WiFi base stations that say 11n works just as well.
Yeah I get that. That is the cheapest implementation I've seen with that panel. The 1440p panels started to catch on in 2010, so you're right in that they're getting a bit long in the tooth. I don't necessarily upgrade displays every cycle. It's just a matter of when the hours on my current one hit a point where the profile has really started to shift or the newer version provides something that makes work easier to accomplish. My current one is just at a few thousand hours, so I'm not too worried at the moment. The only irritation is that the last version of Color Navigator changes the calibration options and it was crushing the blacks, so I had to roll it back. That annoys me to no end.
While I don't agree with the sentiment, that post is far too awesome.
All exaggeration aside, I did clean out behind my desk last week, and it was a huge, huge, HUGE pain in the ass dealing with all those cables. Normally I'm pretty good with my wire management, but after shifting things around and moving things about for awhile, things tend to get a little sloppy. It got to the point I couldn't do any cleaning back there without worrying about sucking something important up in the vacuum cleaner.
The whole time, I thought about how having an AIO or powerful laptop would make things far easier on me. They've both gotten to the point where I wouldn't have to sacrifice all that much for the convenience of extra space. All my speaker wires could be bundled tidily behind an iMac, instead of having to span 4 feet between the monitor and the tower like I have it now. I could route all my plugs to a strip that's hidden by hanging it off the desk, rather than having it on the floor...yeah, I could go on. It'd be much, much easier to deal with.
That is the "form over function" argument in a nutshell.
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Coincidentally, I'm re-arranging the home theatre this weekend - got a full-motion wall-mount for the flat panel, moving the left-right-center speakers,...
We long-haired cats do tend to shed a lot of fur - but I think that I'll be able to build 2 or 3 new cats from the dust bunnies behind the TV cabinet.
The opening article mentions a slow down due to lamination issues. Monoprice is going bargain basement with their panel. Nothing terribly special besides the price. They offer the usual 5 dead pixel replacement plan and 1-year warranty.
The Dell U2711 is leaning toward the professional and offers a generous 3-year warranty.
Whatever Apple is doing for the sake of thinness is really hurting them. Availability does not appear to be an issue elsewhere and these are no longer a "premium" item or as a flagship feature to show off as unique.
Monoprice beats fishing around for a group, bulk purchase of 27" 1440p panels from Korea at warehouse prices and questionable warranties.
With my storage devices and things, it wouldn't make that much of a difference. I'd still personally have to deal with storage devices, wide format printer, and document scanner ... sigh. It's not like I wouldn't enjoy a lack of cords. I disliked certain aspects of the design aspect where functionality was lost. It's an all in one either way. If I ever purchased one, I'd want the VESA mount, which is no longer an option. I'd find it more of an understandable goal if some space was actually saved with the new design.
NEC offers a 4 year warranty. I've seen it as low as $950 recently. t Dell typically prices themselves lower than NEC. Monoprice often hits a good combination. They're typically extremely cheap and offer really good functionality for the price.
Let me be clear that the Dell U2711 was on sale. I do not recall it hitting under ~$800 the various times I investigated it. Seeing it at $649 was startling.
Is not the NEC 1440p something excessively professional? Every time I think of Lenovo or NEC IPS displays, I imagine something over US$1,000 at the least.
In this case, its form is the function. It's cleaner and less of a hassle to deal with over time.
Form over function to me is leaving out an SD card slot so you can have a smooth bevel. The iMac at least has access to the usual bevy of ports you'd get on a desktop PC. Not as many of them admittedly, but I only use three on my tower anyway. The rest are hooked up through the hub.
The one thing that does give me pause is that I'll be spending $2300+ on a computer I can only superficially upgrade. At that price, I want to make sure I can get at least 4 years use out of it. As relatively powerful as the new 27" iMac is, I don't know if I can do that. The 680MX will get pretty long in the tooth in a fairly a short amount of time, and there won't be anything I can do about it besides sell off the whole machine and get a new one.
It's one of the things that's kept me in decision limbo. I like the convenience and design, but there are some pretty big caveats to it that keep me from running out and grabbing one now.
Yeah, I've got a couple cats. I don't know how any animal can lose that much fur and not be bald after a month. And what's even weirder is how it all clumps together in the more neglected corners of the house. It's like it all floats together in the middle of the night while you're asleep.
For awhile, I thought my cats were building effigies of each other for use in voodoo rituals or something.
Right, except... not.
New CPUs (Sandy Bridge > Ivy Bridge, not "the same CPUs" as you seem to think), addition of USB 3, much better GPUs, increase in supported RAM, much reduced glare and reflections on the screen, substantial reduction in weight.
And, it doesn't just "appear thinner" - it really *is* thinner - I'm not sure what the reason is for people trying to "catch Apple in a lie" or something relating to the new design. It really is thinner than the last one. The so-called "bulge" on the back is also nonsense - it obviously gets thicker as it approaches the hinge, but it's a smooth grade and is still very thin back there.
The tape is very easy to cut and easy to replace, and the internal layout and serviceability is much improved over the old models (trust me, I know).
So, any other "facts" you want to level against it? The only real criticism that can really be levelled is the removal of the ODD in a desktop chassis, but you didn't even touch on that. You just proclaimed a nebulous "step backwards in hardware" with vague, naive handwaving about how it "appears thinner" with nothing to actually back that up.
Whoa, easy guy, no need to get personal, it's just a computer
Yes, I know it's a new Intel CPU class, my remake was regarding the speeds for each model which if you looked are on par. Aside from USB 3.0 and some other minor under the hood differences, for the vast majority (i.e. the general consumer) there isn't much of a difference. As a former "Genius" years ago, I've worked on many iMac systems, from the lamp shade through the very first iMac to use full desktop parts (early models utilized notebook parts for form factor). They're a tough bunch to crack, I actually think the tape/glue would be easier than the magnets - those are a PITA to remove, but more so to put back as you really need a clean room to avoid any dust getting between the glass and the LED LCD panel. As this model uses a laminated panel that is "sealed" it must be easier to remove.
Sorry if my comments came off as "catty", not meant to, just disappointed in Apple's move towards form and less function - especially with the now three year old Mac Pro models. I've seen the new iMac, and it really isn't that thin. The "bulge" on the back is very prominent, the only thin is the edge of the screen. Still, it is impressive but I don't understand how is serves a purpose for a desktop system that is not meant to be portable.
Whoa, easy guy, no need to get personal, it's just a computer
Yes, I know it's a new Intel CPU class, my remake was regarding the speeds for each model which if you looked are on par. Aside from USB 3.0 and some other minor under the hood differences, for the vast majority (i.e. the general consumer) there isn't much of a difference. As a former "Genius" years ago, I've worked on many iMac systems, from the lamp shade through the very first iMac to use full desktop parts (early models utilized notebook parts for form factor). They're a tough bunch to crack, I actually think the tape/glue would be easier than the magnets - those are a PITA to remove, but more so to put back as you really need a clean room to avoid any dust getting between the glass and the LED LCD panel. As this model uses a laminated panel that is "sealed" it must be easier to remove.
Sorry if my comments came off as "catty", not meant to, just disappointed in Apple's move towards form and less function - especially with the now three year old Mac Pro models. I've seen the new iMac, and it really isn't that thin. The "bulge" on the back is very prominent, the only thin is the edge of the screen. Still, it is impressive but I don't understand how is serves a purpose for a desktop system that is not meant to be portable.
Ah, it's ok. I should really apologise - I didn't mean to be antagonistic. Put it down to a bunch of nonsense I'm dealing with now, and spending a lot of time on another forum where things are more hostile.
Yeah. In 2006 or so I bought one of their 21" displays for around $1500 + another $400 or so for the Spectraview kit if I remember correctly. The PA271W was around $1700 when it came out in 2010. NEC doesn't necessarily update annually, but they're fairly aggressive on price cuts once something passes the middle of its life cycle. I tend to suggest them for people buying today over a thunderbolt display if color is a significant factor. Both are the same era of technology, and Apple doesn't really do price cuts. When they're around the same price, the only thing I see in favor of Apple is the docking station functionality. The $950 I mentioned was B+H without the Spectraview software or colorimeter. It's also one of those things where it says click to see price in cart. Given how much it has dropped, I'd say they probably have something else coming, but I typically avoid them early on in a release cycle. Sometimes you end up with a lot of bugs at the beginning.
Man stop complaining. It's worth every penny.
Your thinking is dented up and bent to the extreme!
You'll be losing money if you hold on to your big investment longer than 2 years. That number can vary depending on the rate of change in tech.
You'll be able to recover over 70% of your investment if you sell within the first 2 years of the product release. Depending on the product, that percentage can vary.
You can then use the funds recovered with a supplement from your wallet to purchase the next top of the line hot piece of ass from Apple.
If you wait 4 years, and then upgrade to another spiffy machine, the resale value of your old junk will be worth junk.
Been doing this since the first iPhone. Keep recovering your investment and reinvest it. Unfortunatly this is how it must be done with technology that evolves at an exponential rate.
This is such common sense that it gave rise to businesses whose only purpose is to resell Apple-stamped goods: Gazelle
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No worries! It happens, you have some good points. Thanks for the nice response, I appreciate it and apologize as well if anything I wrote was taken the wrong way.
USB3 was only available with the new Ivy Bridge CPUs, which came out about 9 months ago.
I still think the only design should have been updated with USB3 and Ivy Bridge mid 2012, then this model could have been released in early 2013. Enough time to sort the production issues.
While I agree to a point about thickness, the new screen does look much better with glass bonded directly to the panel. It has made a marked difference to image quality and reduced reflections by quite a lot. Still think they should have made the whole thing thicker and included better graphics chip in the space.= though
Yes, it was the plan all along to get rid of optical drives and then to sell them back at a premium. What a nice pile of money it will be