USB is dead people. Wireless won!
Seriously though. How relevant is USB3 these days with so many devices being wireless and people are storing their data on a NAS or in the cloud?
.....Yet now we have TB ports that are basically useless. I wish my new iMac had at east one FW port - but no- I got 2 empty TB ports staring at me......
For how many years we couldn't get a friggin HDMI port from Apple. Yet now we have TB ports that are basically useless. I wish my new iMac had at east one FW port - but no- I got 2 empty TB ports staring at me. And a 2 year old MBP without HDMI.
Are you serious?
A copper Cat6 cable with GbE is far faster than WiFi, yet still fails to keep up with current spinning hard drives.
Asus, the number one motherboard manufacture, state that once one in four people require a certain technology, it becomes feasible to add it to a motherboard.
It was per unit. As I recall a few figures were quoted - all of which were around $75 or above. This was however about a year ago so its likely its dropped a bit since then. I'll see if I can dig out the sources as Google yielded nothing. As I recall Cnet had a fair bit on it.
In comparison, USB 3.0 is something like $5 (on average) and USB 2.0 is next to non existant (a lot of places dont bother licensing it)...
Good luck connecting external monitors over USB 3.0 instead of Thunderbolt.
PCI Express must also be an abject failure because so few computers have it.
The world has been able to do this over USB 2.0 for quite some time already, so, of course, the greater bandwidth of USB 3.0 was hardly going to be a stumbling block.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00612ZPQA
You can stop rolling those eyes now.
I'd say 90% of all FW devices were sold to non-professionals (as in audio or video professionals). I'm certainly not an audio or video professional but all my devices are FW.
Good luck connecting external monitors over USB 3.0 instead of Thunderbolt.
USB 3.0 + Thunderbolt is the perfect combination IMO. USB 3.0 for all the cheap consumer stuff, and Thunderbolt for the high-end stuff and monitors and docks.
That's cool! And almost the cost of a TB cable
The resolution support is a downer though and they seem to have performance issues. So it can't really be compared to the displayport.
Uh actually monitors over USB 3.0 will be fine. It was possible to do it over USB 2.0 however it was noticably slow. 3.0 has way more bandwidth, and can easily handle a display.
So right back at ya!
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I dont think you'd ever use it over thunderbolt/display port, however if you've only got 1 TB port and you use it for something else, going with USB 3.0 for a second screen isnt such a bad option. It'll be perfectly fine for a computer display.
Well, you could also daisy chain two TB displays.
But I can see using something like that for a smaller older monitor though, provided that it doesn't put too much load on the CPU.
TB feels much more future proof in this area anyways.
USB is dead people. Wireless won!
Seriously though. How relevant is USB3 these days with so many devices being wireless and people are storing their data on a NAS or in the cloud?
The rMBP has an HDMI port.
No. Just no.
USB is highly relevant.
If you live in the middle of a field with nothing around you, wireless is great.
If you live in a city, its crap. I live in a fairly small neighbourhood, and right now I can pick up over 30 wireless points, covering all wireless channels.
Wireless performance is absolutely crap if all channels are in use.
I dont think 'smaller old monitors' come into it. Every single monitor that isnt an Apple Thunderbolt display comes into it.
No. Just no.
USB is highly relevant.
If you live in the middle of a field with nothing around you, wireless is great.
If you live in a city, its crap. I live in a fairly small neighbourhood, and right now I can pick up over 30 wireless points, covering all wireless channels.
Wireless performance is absolutely crap if all channels are in use..
Actually, there's a wireless standard for peripheral connectivity that is about to be introduced, it operates on the 60 Ghz band, which unless you have multiple APs in a very close range (like less than the range between your chair and desk), won't be a problem.
This could replace USB (though Bluetooth is more susceptible to get replaced by this).
But it didn't have to be that way. If only the prices came down.
INTEL is justifiably concerned about the integrity of Thunderbolt, ie no subpar 'junk' to tarnish the standard. TB's original promise was convenience, simplicity and off-the-charts speed.
Eventually (and that is the key word here), a few TB ports on each desktop or laptop could have replaced most of that other myriad of connections now found on almost all computers. A shame, really.
Uhmm.....
Peer to peer, no tying up CPU resources
Speed, two bi-directional data lanes at up to 10 Gbps, for now
Daisy-chainable
Simplicity, one connector for all peripherals and accessories
With optical connections, future speeds of up to 100 Gbps and beyond.
This could have left USB3 in the dust.
USB is dead people. Wireless won!
Seriously though. How relevant is USB3 these days with so many devices being wireless and people are storing their data on a NAS or in the cloud?
For how many years we couldn't get a friggin HDMI port from Apple. Yet now we have TB ports that are basically useless. I wish my new iMac had at east one FW port - but no- I got 2 empty TB ports staring at me. And a 2 year old MBP without HDMI.
Wireless is SLOW and prone to interference. All three of my computers in my den are connected by Gigabit Ethernet. It's been around for over a decade and not even 802.11AC can beat it for low latency/overhead and usable speed. USB3 is up to 5x faster than Gigabit Ethernet. TB is 10x faster. I fail to see how Wireless is good for anything but portable devices that are often too slow to render a web page quickly so absolute speed doesn't matter a whole lot.
If you read my other posts you will see that I'm talking about the average consumer and I think that the convenience is more important than the performance, provided it's good enough. People LOVE wireless.
Power users will still need the cables though for reliable performance.