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Apple and Amazon Ordered to Enter Settlement Talks Over 'App Store' Trademark Issue
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Correct... and trademarks are not patents. Prior art has little to do with it if the term being trademarked is not active or being defended in commerce. If you don't use it, or defend it, you can loose your trademark.
From a marketing stand point, I can see why Apple is trying to keep this trademark. If they can make "Apps" or "AppStore" only be associated with Apple, then that's a big win from a marketing standpoint.
Why do we always get a post like this in these threads? Full of completely misinformed nonsense.
The term 'AppStore' has been in use as far back as the mid 1980's in computing. It had a 'lul' in the late 90's where it wasn't used quite as much (but was still used).
Sure, Apple popularised the term - does that given them any right own it? No.
Just because a select few people have this delusion that Apple created the term that doesn't mean they have any rights to restrict others using it.
The thread should be closed after this post. Unfortunately it will be followed by dross.
Dear MrGates
I'm real. I was just having some fun.
Now take a deep breath and relax.
Amazon can pretty tell Apple F U and tell them to drop it. I expect if Apple keeps pushing the case the result will be for Apple to pay all of Amazon legal fees in this.
At this point Apple base solution is to drop the case and walk away.
At this point Apple base solution is to drop the case and walk away.
I agree with you on everything except Amazon not being of great quality. I have ordered a lot of things from amazon all the way to Australia and they have all turned up before or on the expected date (unlike Apple and their iMac issue haha) and very well packed for good prices. Apple invented the popularity for the term App, they should have a right to use it.
I always think it would be cool to be able to have a look at a parallel world and make Apple on world 1 invent something and then Apple on world 2 not invent it and just see how vastly different the competitors would be. I would put my money on Appstore not being used if Apple didn't start calling it that. I would put my money on mp3 players still being generic and no cool factor to them if Apple did not invent the iPod. I would put my money on ugly laptops and fingertip phones if Apple had not invented the aluminium laptops and iPhone.
I agree on the different names they could use. They invented their company name, why can't they invent a store name.
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They got the money and even if they don't win they still hinder other companies going for the term Appstore through fear. No one wants to be dragged through the court, especially not smaller companies.
Until the USPTO rules on the actual validity of the trademark in regards to both Microsoft and Amazon's opposition to it, Amazon still has to enter good faith negotiations (their position could be to ask for a stay on the infringement claims until the USPTO has ruled).
No one is preventing Apple from using the term App. Nor App Store. And this issue isn't about the word App.
::headdesk::
From the other thread...
I believe that's a Palm Treo. So it's been around for at least a little while.
Apple wasn't the first to use the term "App Store", and didn't coin the term "apps". Just because it became more commonly used after they released their app store in '08 doesn't give them the right to it.
Wow I would have seriously thought anyone reading this thread would have got what I meant. I am very sorry for your head on the desk.
Incase you got amnesia, I will update you.
I mean AppStore and I mean Apple have the right to own it.
And I could easily see Amazon refusing to give at all to anything but a stay.
From my under standing more and more signs are pointing to the USPTO ruling against Apple.
Besides Apple is going to have to win multiple cases. Even if they win the USPTO ruling they now have to win in court and amazon only has to win one.
Windows users have called their apps "programs" and its built into windows like program files..."
Mac OS X has used .app since it was launched and in a folder called applications...
Now Apple is popular... everyone wants a bit even though Apple has used app for like 13 years
Completely agree with this. If Amazon was calling their app store the "Apple App Store" I could see issue with it, but "App Store" is quite generic.
And yet your know what a gas station is right???
I suspect your not looking hard enough
http://www.bp.com/productslistsearch.do?categoryId=9006961&contentId=7013632
With regards to those claiming Apple coined the term 'App'.
The term 'App' has been used for years.
Now I've got your attention. This below is a screenshot from RISC OS 3.1.1. It was released in 1991. I used it at school on an Acorn computer. Notice what that folder is called? And that icon on the bottom bar?
![Risc_OS_311_Desktop.png]()
It should also be noted that RISC OS used the term App in v2.0 which was released in 1989 (and possibly earlier versions of 'Arther') however I couldn't grab a screenshot.
The term 'App' has been used for years.
Now I've got your attention. This below is a screenshot from RISC OS 3.1.1. It was released in 1991. I used it at school on an Acorn computer. Notice what that folder is called? And that icon on the bottom bar?
It should also be noted that RISC OS used the term App in v2.0 which was released in 1989 (and possibly earlier versions of 'Arther') however I couldn't grab a screenshot.
Care to participate in my homework too ?
You seem very knowledgeable and intelligent. Can you do me a favor ? I'm illeterate and have some homework that needs doing. Can you tell me how many times the word "Application" shows up on this picture vs how many times the word "Program" does ?
![nt31box.jpg]()
It would be very appreciated if you could, simply click the image to zoom in.
Yeah, probably a good idea.
... or not
( I feel your frustration ...
)See my last post. It basically disproves the complete crap you just posted:
So. 1989. Thats...24 years ago.
Happy now?
Yeah, probably a good idea.
... or not
( I feel your frustration ...
Sucker for punishment
And yet people still think this is about who coined/made popular the word APP.
Sucker for punishment
And yet people still think this is about who coined/made popular the word APP.
Even if it were, it's quite disputed that Apple are the ones, seeing all the stuff we've dugged up to disprove that completely irrelevant argument.
