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Apple and Amazon Ordered to Enter Settlement Talks Over 'App Store' Trademark Issue
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It BECAME generic after Apple defined what an 'App' was & the introduction of the AppStore.
Let's not be silly here..
And Application was in use before Apple even existed :
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A book from the 60s!!
Haha love it!
I'd imagine the 60's is probably the earliest it was publicly used in computing, could be wrong tho! May have to do a book search
What a bunch of crap. Apple probably spent many years and billions of dollars to invent the name App Store. They should totally own it.
Haha love it!
I'd imagine the 60's is probably the earliest it was publicly used in computing, could be wrong tho! May have to do a book search
Wonder if the ENIAC came with a user manual we could dig through... kdarling ? (lol, not that I'm calling you old or anything).
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You were definately wrong about the 4/3 pages count then
We'll have to repost every picture on each page just to make sure! And even then, I say once every 2-3 posts because posters seem to even ignore posts 2 posts about the last.Haha love it!
I'd imagine the 60's is probably the earliest it was publicly used in computing, could be wrong tho! May have to do a book search
We all know that Steve Jobs and crew took Doc's time machine and went back in time and altered the space/time continuum. I bet if you were to check out that book at the library you would see in the front, "Special thanks to Steve Jobs and Apple for the use and inspiration for the word Applications"
You were definately wrong about the 4/3 pages count then
So much for me assuming people would read at least one page back.
Hold on, I'm gonna collect all the various pictures people have posted and put them all in one...like...MEGA PICTURE!
I'm not sure I even want to wade into this argument. Some of you here seem to care way more than I do, on both sides of things.
I'll just say that I'm kind of annoyed Apple and Amazon are being forced into settlement talks. That's not how the justice system ought to work. If a person or company wants to go to court, they should be allowed to go to court and get things settled in front of a judge. Let these two go to court and fight it out. Set some precedent, don't have some back room deal nobody will ever know the details of. That's a recipe for a murky legal system.
Yeah, I get that the courts are overcrowded. Maybe if courts were willing to hear and rule quickly and more often, they'd be less overwhelmed. People would know sort of what to expect and maybe decide not to sue to begin with, or not to violate another person's trademarks, depending on the way things go. All these forced settlement talks seem to do is delay things, draw the process out, and when the two parties eventually do get to court, the forced settlement talks simply wasted even more of the court's time to have to order. Meanwhile the two parties have become more entrenched and pissed off at each other, so they pile more on for the actual court case.
I mean, does anyone here really think Apple and Amazon will actually settle? Did Apple and Samsung? Why does the judge think it's possible?
I'll just say that I'm kind of annoyed Apple and Amazon are being forced into settlement talks. That's not how the justice system ought to work. If a person or company wants to go to court, they should be allowed to go to court and get things settled in front of a judge. Let these two go to court and fight it out. Set some precedent, don't have some back room deal nobody will ever know the details of. That's a recipe for a murky legal system.
Yeah, I get that the courts are overcrowded. Maybe if courts were willing to hear and rule quickly and more often, they'd be less overwhelmed. People would know sort of what to expect and maybe decide not to sue to begin with, or not to violate another person's trademarks, depending on the way things go. All these forced settlement talks seem to do is delay things, draw the process out, and when the two parties eventually do get to court, the forced settlement talks simply wasted even more of the court's time to have to order. Meanwhile the two parties have become more entrenched and pissed off at each other, so they pile more on for the actual court case.
I mean, does anyone here really think Apple and Amazon will actually settle? Did Apple and Samsung? Why does the judge think it's possible?
There are two really bizarre things about this story (aka stupid judges).
1. There's nothing to settle. Any settlement would require an acceptance by Amazon that the trademark is valid. So this order is implicitly favoring Apple's position.
2. Trademarks don't behave like patents. Trademarks can be eroded through common use (regardless of priority). There are also fair use claims (i.e. the trademark is descriptive so use of the trademark impinges free speech).
This seems like an incredibly simple legal issue. The trademark is functional. It is not original. And it is in common use. Anyone of those has historically been a lethal strike against trademark claims and yet here we go again.
One of them is named "App Store" and the other is named "Appstore"
Me thinks they both could have come up with better names...
One of them is named "App Store" and the other is named "Appstore"
Me thinks they both could have come up with better names...
I'm sure they could have come up with better names. But Apple could not have called theirs the Apple Store. Then they would be confusing their own customers.
Developers have used the word App for a long time... We are a lazy bunch and Application is just too ****ing long to say!
Like I said earlier... the other guys thought of different names:
App World
App Catalog
or
Market
Marketplace
There are lots of options...
Amazon App Hub anyone?
One example, is where someone sees a commercial on TV and tries to go to the App Store and download the app, but they are really going to the Amazon AppStore and aren't able to find the app they are looking for. Apple is losing money because the customer is not purchasing the application.
I am no trademark expert, but if it certainly were not able to be trademarked, would it be listed on Apple's page listing their trademarks?
http://www.apple.com/legal/trademark/appletmlist.html
One of them is named "App Store" and the other is named "Appstore"
Me thinks they both could have come up with better names...
Officially, I think they're called the iTunes App Store in Apple's case, and the Amazon Appstore in...yeah.
Personally, I would've gone with Fantastic Amazing Program Online Internet Megamart. FAPOIM for short.
It is trademarked. But it's being challenged. Did you read ANYthing about the suit?
You have very little faith in people who own iPhones/idevices that they would a) go to Amazon's website after seeing an ad for an App on the iPhone. That would be the only scenario, right? Because if you go to the appstore on an idevice - it can ONLY take you to Apple's.
The issue is that Apple should not have been granted the trademark for "App Store" in the first place.
You're presuming everyone has the same level of knowledge that you do. You'd be surprised by the stupidity of many consumers. I still run into people every day who don't understand that Macs can't run Windows software natively. There are millions of them out there.
The suit applies to the general public. There probably isn't a developer on the planet that doesn't know the difference between Apple's App Store and the Amazon AppStore.
