Quick Video Card Question for MDD!

I may be wrong here, but I don't believe that AGP Pro cards (any card that came with the G5's from the factory) don't work in non-Pro slots

Quick answer: No.

It won't even fit in regular AGP slot, not talking about ADC power connector location mismatch.

It may work, if modified.

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DZ/015 said:

It may work, if modified.

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That's for regular AGP cards, AGP Pro is completely different, and AGP Pro physically won't fit in non Pro slots

minisuds7 said:

Alright thanks for the info. So what would be a great card for this machine that would have an ADC connection? I just want something that'll be much better than the 9000 Pro that's in there

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If you need an ADC there are 2 cards that will work without modifications:
Geforce Ti4600 and best of the best, and also uber-rarity 9700 Pro.

There is a way to use 9600 with ADC and FX 5200 from G5. It requires soldering 28V cable from PSU directly to ADC power pins on G5 card. I had link to such mod somewhere, but I can't find it ATM. In case of 5200, which is AGP Pro too, it also requires dremeling (or cutting off) part of AGP connector which provides additional power to the card. Due its low power demands it works.
http://www.xlr8yourmac.com/Graphics/FX5200_Mods_for_G4/FX5200_G4mods.html
You can't do that with 9800 you've linked, because regular AGP slot does not provide enough power to feed 9800.

666sheep said:

There is a way to use 9600 with ADC and FX 5200 from G5. It requires soldering 28V cable from PSU directly to ADC power pins on G5 card. I had link to such mod somewhere, but I can't find it ATM. In case of 5200, which is AGP Pro too, it also requires dremeling (or cutting off) part of AGP connector which provides additional power to the card. Due its low power demands it works.
http://www.xlr8yourmac.com/Graphics/FX5200_Mods_for_G4/FX5200_G4mods.html

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One thing about using ADC G5 cards in an ADC G4, the ADC part no longer works. Not only are the ADC power pins removed when modifying the card, Apple changed some of the ADC pins around to make them not compatible.

Intell said:

One thing about using ADC G5 cards in an ADC G4, the ADC part no longer works. Not only are the ADC power pins removed when modifying the card, Apple changed some of the ADC pins around to make them not compatible.

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Are you 100% sure? I'll try to dig out this link where someone soldered 28V to this ADC tab and it worked (as far my memory serves me well OFC). Never tried that myself, though. I got rid my ADC displays years ago.

I'm about 95% sure. I remember looking at the pin outs for the ADC AGP cards and noticing that there are differences between the G4 and G5 cards.

minisuds7 said:

Not to get sidetracked, but one more quick question: can I temporarily use the stock aluminum heatsink with a 1.42 GHz dual CPU module? Until I find a copper one that is. Or is that just not advisable and should just wait for a copper one to show up on eBay or somewhere else?

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If it mounts properly, it will dissipate heat. Whether or not it is thermally capable of acceptably low stable temps is another issue, but you can always rig fans on there.

Here's a page showing how to make the ADC on a 9600 card from a G5 work in a G4.
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Dave H said:

Here's a page showing how to make the ADC on a 9600 card from a G5 work in a G4.
Click here

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This is another way which I've forgotten about. And read comments: ADC works. Great link Dave H!

There are some benchmarks here. A Radeon 8500 is roughly equivalent to a 9000.
A 9700 would give you hardware acceleration of CoreImage.
The Geforce 4 and Radeon 9000 have video acceleration in OS 9.
CoreImage acceleration and OS 9 acceleration are mutually exclusive.

minisuds7 said:

I did find a 9700, but it's $150. Is it worth it? (this is my hobby computer/media server, so I don't mind throwing a little money at it )

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For this price I'd buy it only if I'd have 23 Cinema HD and Cube with modded VRM For any other setup I'd just buy FireGL X3, flash it and use DVI to ADC converter.