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Microsoft Surface Pro to Be Released February 9 with $899 Price Tag
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Your biggest problem was you used Metro apps on a mouse based desktop machine. You don't have to do that. They're just there for you if you want to use them.
...which I do for a couple of things. I like being able to watch Netflix without having to install Silverlight.
As far as the desktop goes, it's not vastly different than 7. When I upgraded to 8 (which I did because it was cheap, I'll admit), my usual workflow barely changed at all. It's still the same basic Windows on that front.
Trying to use windows 8 without a touch screen is a PITA. A touch screen enabled device - such as this, running windows 8 is great to use IMO.
Touch screen enabled screens is where Apple investigate further with OSX and future laptops. Its not uncomfortable because you don't have to be using the touch screen for every single operation.
Touch screen enabled screens is where Apple investigate further with OSX and future laptops. Its not uncomfortable because you don't have to be using the touch screen for every single operation.
I don't understand why you would compare a tablet with a laptop? Anyway I like the Surface, it's an interesting design, but only in the RT version. Because for an extra $100 on top of the Surface Pro price you can get the Razer Edge tablet with it's dedicated GPU which I think is a far better buy.
It all comes down to what you want to use it for though. I'll stick with my Nexus 7 because of that reason, it does what I want.
It all comes down to what you want to use it for though. I'll stick with my Nexus 7 because of that reason, it does what I want.
God, you're right. I've been on MacRumors for years and they've NEVER run stories about products from companies that compete with Apple products. Never, I tell ya. This is such a startling 180 for this site.
You get to be that guy that has to have a power cable to make it through class out of the box!
What a steal
Except that it isn't out yet and the current MBA has been around for quite a while. By the time they bring this to market next month the competition is going to make it look pretty old. There are already much nicer Windows 8 ultra portables on the market form OEMs that make this look quite poor before its even been released.
Agree with this.
Agree with this too... Microsoft has been dancing around in the mobile space since the Windows CE days and has yet to really hit a home run. Apple danced for 5 minutes before their first home run, and continue to keep hitting them. I seriously doubt this new Microsoft product is destined for the hall of fame because its going to have too narrow of an audience that it appeals to. Much of the Microsoft audience is hooked on "cheap".
About the only hope this has is for Microsoft to come out with an absolutely amazing version of MS Office that is better than sliced bread on this device.
Yep - and one BIG point here, as you rightfully pointed it out, is the ability of the MBA to temporary push the thermal envelope and go full thrust on one core at 2,6 GHz. I'm pretty sure the Core i5 equipped Surface can't do that - simply because it has no fans or because it is just too thin/packed to properly dissipate heat. Well, that's pure brainvomit from my part but I'm pretty sure it is the case. And that would further push the "jack of all trades, master at none" aspect of the Surface Pro...
...er, for about the same price then.
I'll happily admit this isn't a perfect product for everyone. Depending on what they want to do, some people are likely to get far better performance out of traditional laptop. Like if you do massive amounts of document work or programming, I'm sure you wouldn't want to spend a lot of time using that flat keyboard, no matter how good a portable tablet style alternative it might be.
But for artwork, gaming, and other general ultrabook tasks, it's not too half bad. The biggest selling point for me is the onboard digitizer. It'd make using programs like Photoshop an Zbrush an absolute joy to use.
I agree on the 360. The original blades for the dash were clean now it's just ads, and more ads, hell the GAME in your disk drive is a small box, shouldnt it be a larger one?? People talk about Apple taking away choice but MS does it as well. Twin freaking brothers I tell ya.
+ paying a LIVE sub to use netflix....wow! PS4 perhaps, hope Sony can pull a rabbit out of their hat. Their finances are really bad though at the moment.
I did have a good time wit the 360 though and it's online is smoother for friend chats and party's. Bought the only reason I use it still is friends on LIVE.
Surface Pro to me though looks alright, probably be good for a decent amount of people, but I cant stand the metro stuff.
My brief time with Win8 I can say felt smooth and I could easily use it. I just dont dig the tablet interface running alongside the traditional desktop. Feels like 2 on top of each other, again this is no huge deal if I had to use it, I just choose not to. I wasn't dazzled with Win7 although I know it's solid, heck I had no issues with Vista haha
The search thing on the start page is nice but OSX is the same thing without jumping into metro land, just click spotlight and type away, to me that's easier. I like the static desktop and hope it stays, and it will either way cause Linux is chilling anytime you need it if Apple craps the bed.
My two cents, wasnt trying to sound too whiney about anything.
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Hope you only plan on running older games with the integrated graphics. The 4000 won't run most current games.
Why compare to a MBA? Seems to me the better comparison would be to a Windows Ultrabook. How many people realistically will be wavering between a MBA and a Surface? If you want/need the Windows ecosystem wouldn't you be comparing this with a Lenovo, Asus, Dell, etc. convertible?
I think I agree... it's a cumbersome compromise between a laptop and a tablet. It wants to give you the keyboard and viewing angle of a laptop, but the touch interface of a tablet. But with the kickstand, its bulky size and that huge floppy keyboard/cover... it couldn't get much worse if it had cords hanging off of it.
If I were forced to work in product design at Microsoft, I'd have the keyboard cover be a hard cover on a hinge. It would fold ALL THE WAY around and snap into the back of the tablet, concealing the keyboard keys. So when you're using it as a tablet, it feels like a solid piece. If you need a kickstand, you just partially unfold it. If you need a keyboard, you open it up all the way and swing the keyboard to the front.
Mind you, the keyboard cover would need to be carbon-fiber strong and very thin... or it would piss people off.
If I were forced to work in product design at Microsoft, I'd have the keyboard cover be a hard cover on a hinge. It would fold ALL THE WAY around and snap into the back of the tablet, concealing the keyboard keys. So when you're using it as a tablet, it feels like a solid piece. If you need a kickstand, you just partially unfold it. If you need a keyboard, you open it up all the way and swing the keyboard to the front.
Mind you, the keyboard cover would need to be carbon-fiber strong and very thin... or it would piss people off.
Nice! For our MS-based needs, this looks great. Thanks for that crack move in deciding to compete against & undercut your business partners, MS. Dell, HP, etc, who needs em? Good work.
You chart is flawed too.
From the article:
Which is wrong as well anyway since a Touch cover is $119.99 and a Type cover is $129.99.
http://www.microsoft.com/Surface/en-US/accessories/touch-cover
http://www.microsoft.com/Surface/en-US/accessories/type-cover
You should update your price accordingly and mention other specs such as screen size and the fact that a MBA has better (backlit) keyboard and trackpad, and an actual hinge so you can use it on your lap and adjust the angle of the screen, which is kind of a big deal.
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$899 (!) for only wifi connection?? //edit//and for a win8 tabloid
Thanks but no thanks
Thanks but no thanks
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I do agree somewhat, I'm not a fan of the photos, video, music player apps with metro, since I prefer to use the Preview, VLC, Windows Media, that's inside desktop mode, so it's been annoying having to change what extensions open with what. But I've much preferred the more easier to use file manager options, i.e. windows explorer, being able to dock windows, and stuff.