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Apple to Launch 128 GB iPad on February 5 for $799/$929
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And hopefully new devices come with 32GB minimum.
I love how everyone begs for ANYTHING 126GB and then when it is released, there is nothing but complaining
Maybe the people who wanted it aren't the ones complaining.
$1000 for what? An iPad
Yeah, I do not think most people will buy this. I would rather buy a laptop instead, now Apple is not smart and very bad at business, and really showing "HOW HUNGARY THEY ARE"!
This shows me that they are desperate, and that is not good. Instead of having smart, methodical releases, they are jumping the gun and doing whatever.
So sad I would have bought one too and i am sure so many would have.
BUT THAT IS JUST TO MUCH MONEY FOR A TABLET!
I will skip it and I have never even had one yet! Will wait till price goes down. I am smart and methodic like apple should be. I am the ultimate hit man and only buy when right. I shoot sheep-- I am a sheep hit man.. but never a sheep.
Bye kiddies. Oh, and be smart this time around. If no one buys the price will go down, guaranteed! If you do buy then you are part of the price problem.
Peace
Yeah, I do not think most people will buy this. I would rather buy a laptop instead, now Apple is not smart and very bad at business, and really showing "HOW HUNGARY THEY ARE"!
This shows me that they are desperate, and that is not good. Instead of having smart, methodical releases, they are jumping the gun and doing whatever.
So sad I would have bought one too and i am sure so many would have.
BUT THAT IS JUST TO MUCH MONEY FOR A TABLET!
I will skip it and I have never even had one yet! Will wait till price goes down. I am smart and methodic like apple should be. I am the ultimate hit man and only buy when right. I shoot sheep-- I am a sheep hit man.. but never a sheep.
Bye kiddies. Oh, and be smart this time around. If no one buys the price will go down, guaranteed! If you do buy then you are part of the price problem.
Peace
Thanks for stating the obvious. But wouldn't it be nice if Apple "innovated" by making something more accessible to buyers instead of even it more unaffordable? Apple's guiding principal is to push the market to the limit of what it will bear.
How Apple prices its flash memory is a joke. I can routinely pick up flash for 50c a GB and sometimes 33c a GB at retail. Apple uses flash storage as a "hostage" marketing tactic, enabled by its closed locked-down devices.
Apple's stock price reflects that there are only so many suckers in the market, and Apple will have to find an "innovation," other than gouging the customer, soon.
I love how everyone begs for ANYTHING 126GB and then when it is released, there is nothing but complaining
There is a different group of complainers for every scenario. If Apple updates a product line only once a year, one group complains, pointing out that Android devices are updated every month or whatever. If Apple updates a product line twice a year, another group complains that "greedy Apple is milking customers," and that they no longer have the latest and greatest. If Apple had replaced the 16/32/64 GB iPad line-up with 32/64/128 and kept the price points the same, I have no doubt that some people would have complained, "That's still too expensive," others would have complained, "This is what Apple calls innovation now - upgrading the storage capacities to what they should have been on the iPad 2?," and others would have complained, "Android tablets still have better specs."
Of course, I've never complained about anything Apple has done.
I wonder about the timing of this release. I figured if they released it during the Holiday shopping season, they'd get a lot more buyers than now.
Production issues? Did the cost of flash memory drop at the turn of the year? Perhaps they anticipate that some people will have a fat tax return? =P
Production issues? Did the cost of flash memory drop at the turn of the year? Perhaps they anticipate that some people will have a fat tax return? =P
Yeah, I do not think most people will buy this. I would rather buy a laptop instead, now Apple is not smart and very bad at business, and really showing "HOW HUNGARY THEY ARE"!
This shows me that they are desperate, and that is not good. Instead of having smart, methodical releases, they are jumping the gun and doing whatever.
So sad I would have bought one too and i am sure so many would have.
BUT THAT IS JUST TO MUCH MONEY FOR A TABLET!
I will skip it and I have never even had one yet! Will wait till price goes down. I am smart and methodic like apple should be. I am the ultimate hit man and only buy when right. I shoot sheep-- I am a sheep hit man.. but never a sheep.
Bye kiddies. Oh, and be smart this time around. If no one buys the price will go down, guaranteed! If you do buy then you are part of the price problem.
Peace
Hardly desperation. You don't throw down another device into your chain with a extra 100 dollar price bump if your desperate. You do this when your flush and have the cushion to see if the real market will bite, not some focus groups or internal think tank.
Desperate would have been a price cut on all current models and the 128 GB 4th-gen being $699.
Still it's been far too long for Apple to keep the prices of Flash-Memory as high in there devices as its been. Especially as they are now soldiering them on the boards and making it non-upgradeable.
Sandisk uses this for a relatively small amount of metadata and to offset need for RAM. RAM+Flash is far more equivalent to the performance level increases get with Fusion Drive than this set up.
There is marginal increase that comes as the cost of capacity. Unless packaging SLC and MLC dies into a single package is really a psudeo SLC mode and really just tossing capacity to store less data. More like the Flash equivalent of "short stroking" HDDs. Short stroking never was a performance game changer. It did far more to sell more drives than revolutionize performance.
Profits
They had to do something in an attempt to increase their year to year profits at the next earnings report. The 128GB option is pure profit for them as I'm sure they're already making out well with the 64GB one.
The logical thing would have been to drop the lowest storage capacity and bump the whole line up, which is probably what they'll do for the next generation, but that wouldn't have helped their bottom line in the meantime.
People can let Apple know how they feel about this by voting with their wallets. I won't be recommending it to anyone.
They had to do something in an attempt to increase their year to year profits at the next earnings report. The 128GB option is pure profit for them as I'm sure they're already making out well with the 64GB one.
The logical thing would have been to drop the lowest storage capacity and bump the whole line up, which is probably what they'll do for the next generation, but that wouldn't have helped their bottom line in the meantime.
People can let Apple know how they feel about this by voting with their wallets. I won't be recommending it to anyone.
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I have a 16GB iPad. I wouldn't exactly consider myself a power user, but I'm at the very top of the non-power users. I use my iPad pretty much every day, but I don't do a lot of actual "work" on it. I have tons of apps, some music, and some pictures. I've had 16GB for nearly 2 years (since iPad 2), and it has met me needs. Sure it is filled up and now I keep it right around 1GB free. At times it can be mildly restrictive (for some large 1GB games), but all around I made the right choice. I wouldn't want to pay the extra $100, because I really haven't needed it. Would I have used it? Sure, but it's mostly just fluff. With my iPhone 5 I decreased from 32GB (which was nearly filled to the brim) to 16GB and I haven't missed a thing.
I didn't say it should be done, just that it's possible. The issue is that phone/tablet workloads are read-centric so an SLC or even DRAM cache is rather pointless. Most of the data has to be fetched from slower MLC NAND anyway, so the benefit of a cache would be very small.
While desperate is the wrong adjective the assignment of "flush and cushion" is equally as off the mark. In the conference call Cook admitted that the iPad mini has lower than corporate average margins. In fact that is what the more highly speculative stock folks are pressed about; drop in margins.
This product is a margin booster. It is far more a move to remain in the "flush" status rather than are in a "happy no worries" zone.
That is not so much desperate as a inventory flush. Apple's inventory and channel backlog are among the lowest of any of their competitors. that's a catch-22 if roll out anything late (e.g., iMac ).
You are mixing RAM and Flash. Flash has always been soldered onto iOS devices. In the Mac space all the Flash (SSD) are upgradable. It is RAM that tracked from DIMMs to soldered with retina MacBook Pros and MacBook Airs.
As already said, the cost difference between the 64 and 128GB versions is $100. As it is, I can go to Amazon, and purchase a 64GB micro SD for $60. If Apple was to purchase a million of those cards, they could easily get the price down, so why are we paying so much? On the lower end, a boost of 16GB from 16GB to 32GB is also $100, despite the fact that a 16GB micro sd card is going for less than $9 new... Apple is so full of °°°°, it isn't even funny...
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Can't someone start ripping open ipad and soldering mem chips? Or are they proprietary? This would be a $1B type business
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Given this outrageous storage pricing I will only ever get the smallest iPad. I'm forced to get the mid-sized iPhone just so I don't miss a video opportunity for one of my children...
Can't someone start ripping open ipad and soldering mem chips? Or are they proprietary? This would be a $1B type business
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Given this outrageous storage pricing I will only ever get the smallest iPad. I'm forced to get the mid-sized iPhone just so I don't miss a video opportunity for one of my children...
AAPL will sink further because of this mentality of padding the margin. They have the winning product that would fail mass adoption.
You are still piping it over USB 2.0. Unless Apple dedicates a PCIe lane or adds USB 3.0 it will be just as slow. Tegra 4 is crazy by having USB 3.0 support out of the box.
The price of getting the cellular modem installed is rather close to the price of the hardware itself. Most other manufacturers charge ~$129 for the luxury.
Excellent analysis.
I agree - now Apple's overall iPad profit margin can go up from say, 42% to 45% and Wall Street will be drooling over higher profit margins and AAPL stock will soar. This is one of many reasons I hate the stock market, it's so senseless to reality. Apple can have the highest record quarter of any company, but the stock plummets, they do a few stupid tweaks, then the stock will soar. It's not just Apple, it's a dumb Wall street mentality for what makes a good company.
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