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Is Apple and their iPhone really worth all that comes with it?
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Apple had none of those patents until they thought they could sue over them. Google just never thought it worth the time an effort to get a patent for slide down for the notifications
The cost of cell phone service is the same whether you subsidized your phone or not. The cost of minutes is the same whether you have a smart phone or not. I believe even the cost of texting is the same whether you have a smart phone or not. So either the carriers are eating part of the price, or every single person involved with that carrier is eating the price.
Yea they get there money back because they charge the same price for android phones that have a lower cost. Also you have no idea what the terms of the deal were when Verizon and AT&T got the iphone. I am sure they are not paying the full price for them. Carriers make billions on top of billions a year. They don't do that by losing money off iPhones. Sorry but no way
The iPhone is so mainstream and common I don't see how this could be true amongst the adult population at least (young people might be a different story, but young people do all kinds of idiotic things to appear cool).
That said, I kind of do agree with your general unhappiness with the way Apple sometimes presents itself. Not so much with their keynotes and such (which for their purpose, I think are appropriate), but more with some of their advertising. For example, I hated the "I'm a Mac, I'm a PC" advertising -- it reinforced the Apple-using-douchebag stereotype. The absolutely worse in my memory is the "If you don't have an iPhone, well, you don't have an iPhone" ads -- the guy sounded like such an arrogant douche, I wanted to pull him out of the TV and punch him in the face for acting that way (and I own an iPhone). These ads just breed hatred for Apple users, and I've seen the consequence of this in action.
It isn't all bad, though, some of their ads are great -- especially the ones that are basically just demos on how to use their products.
Yea that is what I was saying. I do agree that they have some great commercials I said that before.
Who said they lose money off of iPhones?They do pay "full price" for them. iPhone subsidies are estimated to be around $450 per device. Plus the $199 from the consumer comes to $649.
http://money.cnn.com/2012/02/08/technology/iphone_carrier_subsidy/index.htm
They do pay "full price" for them. iPhone subsidies are estimated to be around $450 per device. Plus the $199 from the consumer comes to $649.
http://money.cnn.com/2012/02/08/technology/iphone_carrier_subsidy/index.htm
So you were saying the carriers we paying these massive marriages for the iphone making it sound like they were taking a hit. AT&T and Verizon are making there money back and some more for those huge cost with us paying $30 for data plan if you are on unlimited. Apple nor the carriers are losing money. So if you look at like I do and most of Americans we are paying those huge mark ups just not up front. You keep saying we are paying the same no matter what phone we have, yes that is all well and good. We are still paying for those mark ups on all phone Apple or not.
Exactly. Which was my original point. Many consumers aren't paying any more for an iPhone, even though the iPhone has much higher margins than Android smartphones.
When did Apple ever use it's profit margin as a sales pitch? Do you think other companies are intentionally charging less for their products than they could otherwise get and remain competitive? Do you think that Apple is somehow immune to realities of the free market or should be despised for the success they've had? If you thought your iPhone was overpriced, why did you buy it?
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He's achieved troll status by now, just here to bad mouth people who like Apple and their products. Angry because people didn't agree with him in a previous thread.
If I could I would like to quote myself for a second. The arrogance is what gets me. Whether you agree with me or not. I can remember when I was in middle school and you could not pay me $1000 dollars to get and Apple computer. They were crap. Now they are king of the world and we pay then thousands for their products. I just like companies and people to remember were they came from, and remember they are only one crappy product away from being there again. Just ask RIM (blackberry).
I think its arrogant to come onto a iPhone forum and lecture it's members in the manner you've attempted. Apple is not perfect and many other companies produce excellent smartphones. We all get that and didn't need your help, so for the love of Pete please get off your high horse.
Especially if you only consider the statements that you consider arrogant and ignore anything that contradicts that opinion.
So lets clean this up a bit and go back to the real reason I started this thread in the first place. Is The iphone and its hype from Apple and other worth it? The way Apple prices them they do believe they are far superior than other smartphone. Weigh in please.
Again, in my market, the iPhone is the same price or cheaper than competing smartphones. Yes, I do think the iPhone is worth the price I paid for it.
Not sure what you are getting at with your "hype" and "far superior" comments. Other than back into the same discussion we just had.
The iPhone is the best selling smartphone in the world. You seem to acknowledge this in your posts.
If someone pays money for something, they clearly think it's "worth it".
Considering this, it seems you have answered your own question. More people think the iPhone is "worth it" than any other smart phone.
Why? You haven't been happy with the discussion thus far. What makes you think it's worth anyone's time to indulge you further? Opinions don't change; yours won't.
Most people buy on contract, so it's actually cheaper than some Android phones.
Don't believe me? Go into AT&T to get a Galaxy Note 2. You'll come out with 100$ less than if you got an iPhone.
Wait, no, I want one from Verizon. Same thing. How about a wonderful Droid Razr Maxx HD? 250$ on contract.
Sprint has to be better, right? Nope. It actually costs more for their Galaxy S3 (250$).
And TMobile... they don't subsidize phones. It's more like a loan that they're giving you that you'll pay back over the course of X months.
Well I ask this after people have had time to use there phone. If you guys had to pay $600 for the iphone because you were with tmobile who is going to do away with 2 year contract, and there was something like the nexus 4 for $349 would you still say it was worth it? Is the iphone that much better? Just want some opinions
Yes. It is worth it. You're on an iPhone forum, what do you expect us to say?
Well I am on this forum and like both android and Apple so I thought maybe other people did too.
And I'm sure that some do. But you didn't phrase this thread title to specifically include them or others; you biased on the negatively assumed side of "Is iPhone really worth it?" which automatically leads the discussion to be Pro or Con iPhone. Most responding here, as has been pointed out, feel that it's worth it and said so.
Well if that is the case then give pros and cons to spending $600 on an iphone instead of telling me how I am a troll and asking why I am posting this. Of everyone thought it was so crazy and stupid then why are there 4 pages Rolf responses?
I did not call you a troll.
I did not ask why you are posting this.
I did not call you crazy or stupid.
You will not put words in my mouth.
I will not argue with you.
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