And let 99% of all apps run with a black border around them for the first couple of months. Out of the 26 third-party apps on my first two screens, four still have a black bar below and on top, close to five months after the iPhone 5 announcement.
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Mockups of a 4.94-Inch 'iPhone Plus' Show Why a Larger iPhone Might Make Sense
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It most certainly cannot "fit more stuff". Both have the same 1280x720 resolution.
Having a bad day? It sure feels like you are looking for a fight instead of a productive discussion.
I said that it was becoming a standard, and that is true. Most smart phones are 16:9 HD resolution now, and the next big thing is 1080p.
Regarding all the other devices you brought up, I was referring only to PC monitors, as I said.
Not everybody has perfect eyesight and the larger touch targets help some people as well.
Apple is trapped by their iphone Retina displays. When the 4 came out, the screen was outstanding. It blew everything else away. It made my 3GS look like junk and I knew I had to have one. That display - stretched as it now is - is still pretty damn good - no longer best around, but very respectable. But it's Apples insistance in retaining that resolution thats going to hurt them. If they create a larger phone the ppi is really going to suffer especially as everyone seems to be bringing out 440+ ppi.
No no no no no no no!
This is the kind of **** that ****ed Apple when Steve left all those years ago - trying to be the biggest over the being the best. It doesn't make sense. Maybe for people who buy into the whole "bigger screen = better phone" ****, but why would you go after a market of idiots?
McDonalds sell the most burgers in the world. Does that mean their burgers are the best? **** no.
The hardware is brilliant. Fix the bloody software. Then add some awesome additions to the hardware, not some cheap, lame-ass, unimaginative bollocks like a bigger screen that's only going to piss off developers.
This is the kind of **** that ****ed Apple when Steve left all those years ago - trying to be the biggest over the being the best. It doesn't make sense. Maybe for people who buy into the whole "bigger screen = better phone" ****, but why would you go after a market of idiots?
McDonalds sell the most burgers in the world. Does that mean their burgers are the best? **** no.
The hardware is brilliant. Fix the bloody software. Then add some awesome additions to the hardware, not some cheap, lame-ass, unimaginative bollocks like a bigger screen that's only going to piss off developers.
Yes because these days the larger your screen the more "innovative" your phone is.
I think a larger iPhone would be a pretty popular device. If I didn't use iCloud so much between my devices, I would have gotten a Note instead of the iPhone 5 when I upgraded. I am out more than I am home, but having my iPad with me is just not feasible. So my iPhone gets alot of use. More screen real estate would be awesome. And someone mentioned it earlier, but don't try beefing up the internals, but instead fill the space with a larger battery.
For those who have constant access to computers or tablets all day probably won't have in interest in a larger iPhone, but I think there are many like me whose iPhones (or other phones similar in size) have become a "phablet" long before that term was coined.
For those who have constant access to computers or tablets all day probably won't have in interest in a larger iPhone, but I think there are many like me whose iPhones (or other phones similar in size) have become a "phablet" long before that term was coined.
Maybe for some folks, but large screens are popular because they are easier to read because everything is scaled up.
Also, movies and photos look great on them and the keyboard keys are bigger (no need to file your finger tips)
We don't want larger screens so Apple can cram more stuff on them.
I've got a Note II and would buy a large iPhone in a flash if Apple did it. Have even written to Apple about that. I bet I'm not the only one.
Steve once famously said, "Who'd want a 7-inch iPad? You'd have to file your fingers down to use it."
Incredibly no one called him out on the fact that the iPhone screen was half that size which therefore implies you'd need to file your fingers down a LOT to use its tiny keyboard.
PS Don't even begin to tell me that iPhones allow scaling the text up for accessibility. It doesn't work for all text, mainly just Apple things like email and SMS. You end up with a disjointed ugly experience.
Bring on the iPhone Plus! I can't wait.
Remember in the early 2000's when they made tons of different choices of iPod and they dominated the market?
I agree, they need to continue to innovate (more so now than ever), but I don't think adding a bigger phone is going to confuse people. What's the difference between these two phone? One has a bigger screen. So you buy the screen you want. Certainly seems easier than explaining the differences between a Galaxy S III and a Galaxy Note II.
I don't see this selling well amongst current iPhone owners, especially those with current iPhone-sized accessories, especially those who just replaced them recently due to the Lightening connector. In fact, this would piss off the accessory makers too.
As for people new to the iPhone, this size sounds good to me. Can't say I like 264 ppi though. People tend to read their iPhones close to their face. I would have to see it first.
As for people new to the iPhone, this size sounds good to me. Can't say I like 264 ppi though. People tend to read their iPhones close to their face. I would have to see it first.
a) GUI scaling would fall apart.(too small elements)
b) screen real-estate would diminish.(to 2xHiDPI, octupling pixels)
I seriously doubt Apple will go any bigger than 4" for a while. They don't strike me as a company which is particularly concerned with providing choice or keeping up with trends. After being so vocal about how 4" is the "perfect size" I can't see them contradicting themselves with a bigger device. I don't think we should expect too much out of iPhone in 2013. iPhone 5S with updated internals is a given, a cheaper alternative also? Maybe.
But it wouldn't really be a spec bump. It'd be like a cheap parlor trick to capture the market of people who are wowed by big screens and emerging markets. The resolution would be the same so there wouldn't be any benefits except for the geriatric crowd... It'd be less portable, difficult to operate with one hand and screen sharpness would suffer as a result of the lower ppi.
It doesn't sound like the Apple way, but there is a huge market that can't afford a smartphone and tablet, and that's where something like this might make sense. In fact, if they decided to go with cheaper materials like plastic, it'd be cheaper to build and easier to engineer and manufacture than trying to cram the latest tech into something the size of iPhone 5. Miniaturization is hard!
iPad Mini and the iPhone 5's bigger screen.
Product roadmap? They have been using the same size screen on the iPhone for how long now, and it only changed recently after the explosion of screen sizes from competitors.
A 1080x1920 display at 5″ works out to 441 PPI, 4.94″ (as mentioned in the article) would be 446 PPI, 4.5″ would be 490 PPI, and 4″ would be a stunning 551 PPI. It would truly live up to the Retina name.
I couldn't agree with you more, by the way.
Nope, that's really not what I meant at all.
Apple might choose to offer an entry level iPhone with a smaller screen and non-Retina display if they saw a market. But they absolutely won't create a new flagship iPhone with lesser features than the existing one which would sit below it.
And similarly, no, we won't see an 11" iPad with sh@t resolution either. Oh, but an 11" iPad is senseless anyway perhaps you say? Not once the upcoming bezel shrink arrives. Then you can just about pack such a screen into the current iPad's form factor. I am not saying Apple will do it. But someone will, and if it sells then others will surely follow.
This.
I'm in the age range where my short vision is just not clear. My distance vision is terrific. Given the choice of carrying reading glasses or getting a bigger screen, the obvious choice is a bigger screen.
Presbyopia happens to everyone, smaller screens are a problem, If apple wants to appeal to an aging population then they need to increase the readability of their screens.
So you'd prefer the smallest over the best?
Steve introduced the 17" PowerBook which evolved into the 17" MBP. Those lineups lasted many years. Interestingly, it was the smaller 12" PowerBook that EOLed first.
What Steve was into was families of products. 2 or 3 in each family. Not dozens like the numpties at other companies, just 2 or 3 of the best in their class.
If Steve and Apple listened to folks like yourself, who can only see their own requirements, there'd be one size iPhone, one size iPod, one size MacBook (no MBA or MBP mind you), one size iMac.
Apple already has two sizes of iPhone. Once the Plus comes out, they will phase out the smaller 4S and again have two sizes. And that's overkill because?
You're right - not everyone has perfect eyesight.
But everyone with the necessary faculties to use a smartphone has the ability to move the phone closer or nearer there eye to make pixels whatever size they want them.
Here come the die hard "take my money" fanboys. I was hoped the next iPhone was made out of helium
On iPhone we should use apps, which are suitable for portrait viewing. On iPad we then may use the real web pages designed for desktops. This is how I understand the situation.