How about doing some optimizations, not putting more and more fluff on top. That Federighi guy is screwing big time.
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Apple Job Posting Hints at Siri for Macs in OS X 10.9
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Please, please please let this be the only new and exciting innovation in 10.9.
The rest of the operating system is rotting. We need a new filesystem. We need a working colour pipeline. We need a working audio subsystem (though, to be fair- that's been fixed in 10.8.3). We need better sandboxing technology that doesn't cripple applications.
I'm still on 10.6.8.
I would love nothing more then to be able to upgrade to 10.9 and know that everything is going to work, and that all the mistakes Apple has made in the past few years have been rectified and smoothed over.
Please, Apple, don't **** this one up. I'm so tired of waiting for the next version of OS X that is stable enough for production use.
-SC
The rest of the operating system is rotting. We need a new filesystem. We need a working colour pipeline. We need a working audio subsystem (though, to be fair- that's been fixed in 10.8.3). We need better sandboxing technology that doesn't cripple applications.
I'm still on 10.6.8.
I would love nothing more then to be able to upgrade to 10.9 and know that everything is going to work, and that all the mistakes Apple has made in the past few years have been rectified and smoothed over.
Please, Apple, don't **** this one up. I'm so tired of waiting for the next version of OS X that is stable enough for production use.
-SC
Incorrect. As has been proven before, the iPhone 4S and further do have special language processing in the hardware. This is so that it doesn't take as long to transmit the data and its a little easier on Apple's servers.
The general consensus at the time was that Apple didn't allow Siri on the iPhone 4 because it wouldn't be "good enough" to Apple's standards. Apple didn't want to have their new flagship feature judged on how it ran on non-optimized hardware.
Nope. I am not the engineer. I am actually Steve Jobs, who resurrected from death to reply to your comment and give out Apple's roadmap for the future.
10.8.3 first please! We need kexts for newer AMD and NVidia cards. ML is solid now. Do not rush.
SIRI for Mac wishlist:
1) Able to navigate the directory
2) Able to open/close files
3) Able to be used to control some Apple Apps (e.g. Logic)
4) Able to color code files in a folder
5) Open/Close Apps
6) Debug assistance
7) Interactive SW updates
8) Able to initiate hot keys/macros
9) and generally replace having to point with a mouse for doing basic computer tasks
I see the difference between iOS Siri and Mac Siri as:
1) iOS: more about answering questions and environment data, basic iDevice Control, and things like maps, tickets, directions, hours of operation, price for whatever, etc. Also for using iDevice as a "remote" for Apple TV controls.
2) OS X: I see SIRI for control of the Mac per the above wish list.
Of course the worst scenario is Siri on Mac is geared towards helping integrate with "social media"....
1) Able to navigate the directory
2) Able to open/close files
3) Able to be used to control some Apple Apps (e.g. Logic)
4) Able to color code files in a folder
5) Open/Close Apps
6) Debug assistance
7) Interactive SW updates
8) Able to initiate hot keys/macros
9) and generally replace having to point with a mouse for doing basic computer tasks
I see the difference between iOS Siri and Mac Siri as:
1) iOS: more about answering questions and environment data, basic iDevice Control, and things like maps, tickets, directions, hours of operation, price for whatever, etc. Also for using iDevice as a "remote" for Apple TV controls.
2) OS X: I see SIRI for control of the Mac per the above wish list.
Of course the worst scenario is Siri on Mac is geared towards helping integrate with "social media"....
I agree with almost all of this. After running a hacked Siri on a Jailbroken iPhone 4 before, I found it just did not work nearly as well as it did on the iPhone 4s. I tested this at the exact same time on both devices and I found the 4s seemed the preform everything better.
Though since it was hacked it is a possibility that it may have been the server it was using. Though it didn't to process my speech as well as the 4s did.
I will admit everyone is entirely too quick to just say Apple is just trying to force people to upgrade to get more money by saying feature will only work on a certain device. I know they have done it a couple times but I wouldn't just automatically jump to those conclusions every time. I don't even think Apple would be dumb enough to say "needs 2013 Mac hardware to process the speech correctly" considering their are alternate software out there that work pretty well. Not to mention it'd more than likely be easier to hack on a Mac than an iOS device. Unless they went above and beyond. Though chances of that happening are slim since they haven't gone above and beyond in other features before in terms of security.
denial.... first step to recovery.----------
Nope. I am not the engineer. I am actually Steve Jobs, who resurrected from death to reply to your comment and give out Apple's roadmap for the future.
I'm bill gate...who had to save your behind when you were about to lose a company.
What a dreadful way to force Siri onto the public. At least it can be turned off. For now anyway. Apples just thrilled with its gimmicks.
Agreed. They're probably going to do away with the keyboard and screen altogether; there will be a simple button for activating Siri.
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It is good that Apple wants to bring popular features like Siri and possibly Maps from iOS. However i could not agree anymore with the posts here that these features are still undeveloped and need more time to refine.
Also with the end of 10 does this mean Apple will let the cats out and release some new experience and a new desktop design in 11 like windows did in 8.
Also with the end of 10 does this mean Apple will let the cats out and release some new experience and a new desktop design in 11 like windows did in 8.
Substantial features please!
Ok, let there be Siri on Macs, I don't mind. But I really hope that these features aren't the only innovations in a new OS. The last real innovative Mac OS was Tiger, and some under the hood important features like Grand Central Dispatch in Leopard. Since then, we have been getting some incremental steps, and even some of those weren't made in the right direction. The absence of Bertrand Serlet is not very assuring in regards of really importent "under the hood" stuff.
Ok, let there be Siri on Macs, I don't mind. But I really hope that these features aren't the only innovations in a new OS. The last real innovative Mac OS was Tiger, and some under the hood important features like Grand Central Dispatch in Leopard. Since then, we have been getting some incremental steps, and even some of those weren't made in the right direction. The absence of Bertrand Serlet is not very assuring in regards of really importent "under the hood" stuff.
I must be the only one. I rarely use Siri on my phone and see literally no use for it on my macbook. I dont even use the dictation feature on 10.8, again, not that useful.
The very first thing that Siri needs is hardware that can remove as much background noise as possible from your voice. What helps a lot is having two microphones - since your voice is very close to the microphones, the microphones will get different input from your voice, but the background noise is from far away, so it will appear almost identical on both microphones. If the iPhone 4 has only one microphone, then it is severely handicapped for use with Siri.
I'm amazed at the people getting negative or skeptical about SIRI.
OK, it isn't everything you want it to be. What is? This software is a work in progress that will probably need the rest of the decade to hone properly. It is an inevitable and necessary step in computing which Apple has latched onto--because Apple lives in the future, to develop the personal computer and not just live off of short-term market trends.
SIRI for Mac/OSX will be excellent. Talking to computers will allow pre-keyboard work to be done. You can prep the computer by voice before you ever turn to it. You can also finish tasks or multi-task via voice; as you type a letter, you can open web pages with reference or ask for data compilation, etc.
SIRI can become something extraordinary. Imagine if all the negativity about the iPad shaped the current market: netbooks, still.
OK, it isn't everything you want it to be. What is? This software is a work in progress that will probably need the rest of the decade to hone properly. It is an inevitable and necessary step in computing which Apple has latched onto--because Apple lives in the future, to develop the personal computer and not just live off of short-term market trends.
SIRI for Mac/OSX will be excellent. Talking to computers will allow pre-keyboard work to be done. You can prep the computer by voice before you ever turn to it. You can also finish tasks or multi-task via voice; as you type a letter, you can open web pages with reference or ask for data compilation, etc.
SIRI can become something extraordinary. Imagine if all the negativity about the iPad shaped the current market: netbooks, still.
I'm not questioning the feature itself. I'm saying before one starts implementing features like this, he should first clean and optimize the background/core OS.
I'm happy Lion/Mountain Lion introduced many new features and usability improvements (at least for me), but core OS performance has degraded. It is masked in part by high performance hardware, but on older hardware it is very visible.
You don't start building your house from the roof.