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First Reviews of Microsoft Surface Pro: Good Display, Full Windows 8, Compromised Experience
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30GB of space at 899. thats what in a real currency about £600. correct me if im wrong but you can get a 32 gb ipad for 480 + a keyboard case say £70 to be generous.
still £150 and your not having to use windows.
downside, you dont have a full OS. but its yet to be seen if a full operating system is useful under a touch environment. which is why a mobile OS is used.
i just dont see a space for full power computing in that mobile and a touch space.
Most people work at their desk nearly all the time with occasional travel. This is a total win for business computing over laptops because it's around the durability and price of a business device. It's also a generation away from a desktop dock (remember regular monitors don't support touch yet, so there's a lot that still needs to catch up in the ecosystem).
Plus the memory concerns are minimal as it has an sd slot. And USB 3 if you want a lot more.
ffs you people need to stop throwing MBA into this debate. MBA is a laptop/notebook/whatever, Surface is a TABLET. It's a tablet that can also support full Windows 8 and just because it can, it doesnt mean you can now throw it into the category of laptops. Yes, it has the "rubber keyboard", but that is only an option and because of that it doesnt make it a laptop. So doesnt the 1000$ price.
I think there have been Windows touch notebooks/tablets for a decade.
None was a commercial success. Lets see how this one fares. It seems that it has inherited some worst things from laptops - generally very short battery life, need for keyboard, mouse. On the good side it has usual Windows software library, which, however, remains to be yet optimized to run on these tablets. Bad side is that its bloated Windows itself full of unnecessary space-eating things. So there are two big minuses, one plus. Balance is negative.
None was a commercial success. Lets see how this one fares. It seems that it has inherited some worst things from laptops - generally very short battery life, need for keyboard, mouse. On the good side it has usual Windows software library, which, however, remains to be yet optimized to run on these tablets. Bad side is that its bloated Windows itself full of unnecessary space-eating things. So there are two big minuses, one plus. Balance is negative.
...long way off from this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UmIgNfp-MdI
What happened to all those fancy-dancy tablets that Microsoft was going to make to destroy Apple? 3 years later: lameness.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UmIgNfp-MdI
What happened to all those fancy-dancy tablets that Microsoft was going to make to destroy Apple? 3 years later: lameness.
no but the exact same internal components as a MBA do.
It has more in common with an ultrabook than an iPad whether you like it or not.
We have had full OS tablets for years, they never took off.
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People do real work all day on iPads. They use Citrix to run windows apps.
so if you put en engine from BMW M6 into some Chevrolet mini van, you're going to say that the Mini van is actually a sports coupe?
Surface Pro more expensive than laptop? Really? I don't think there are any SSD laptops (Apple or PCs) that are cheaper or even the same prices.
Although the 64gb iPad still has more actual storage than the 128gb surface
64gb iPad has 90Gb of storage free??
At least unlike iPad with Surface you can actually plug an external monitor.
Tell that to users of Galaxy Note...
I only use a stylus when I am presenting something to someone because my hand doesn't get in the way of the screen. I have a pen that has a stylus tip on is that I carry in my iPad case.
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You can plug the iPad in to a monitor, to share your screen...
Falling behind where, and to whom? The last I've seen the iPad still had the lions share in the tablet area. Microsoft is playing catchup here, not Apple. Second, I get the feeling that Office on the iPad is up to redmond, and not Apple. There have been leaked pictures showing Office running on an iPad for over a year now.
Honestly Microsoft have been a good maker in keyboard and mouse industries with their ergonomics designs, so I can't understand why M$ would give Surface such an awful keypad instead of a real keyboard with bouncing keys and good ergonomic design
It does have a Mini Display port. I would like to try out my Thunderbolt display to see if it works.
There are some not too bad alternatives for the iPad, agree. But nothing beats "native" Excel. I would not "survive" in business without a flexible Pivot Table or some occasional VB enhancements. As much as I love iPad and its sisters and brothers I also appretiate the power of Excel.
Honestly Microsoft have been a good maker in keyboard and mouse industries with their ergonomics designs, so I can't understand why M$ would give Surface such an awful keypad instead of a real keyboard with bouncing keys and good ergonomic design
The type cover is actually a really good keyboard replacement. The touch cover feels like you're typing on a placemat
They type cover is the way to go
This looks amazing. As for the battery, even if it is able to give an hour's worth of juice, its good. Nowadays, you have charging points everywhere. Cars, buses, trains, aeroplanes, cafes, etc. The only downside to it is that windows is a virus magnet. You're doomed if you take this as your only laptop/tablet.
You can make a initial file in a computer and download it into your iPad for further work.
I also tried out some Android Office suites, and tbh I don't find they have much difference from those available for iPad. The only advantage I have found is the easiness of file I/O in Android devices.
Thus if you really need a fully working mobile Office suite, yes you have to go for tablets running Windows 8.
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Find us a charging port on a city bus LOL
It not about processing power, storage space, temperature or USB ports. If it were the iPad would have been a massive flop. Its about a product that people can take a brief look at and find a compelling use for. They can do that with laptops, and tablets, and phones.
Personally I can't find a use for a tiny laptop where the keyboard can be detached (and accidentally left behind) and the software hasn't yet been optimised. MS should have nailed the software experience first. Running standard windows applications on a 10" 1920x1080 display with your finger(!) is just a terrible concept.
3rd part developers may save it, or they may drag it into the dirt. It all depends on whether they get it, and want to invest in it, or whether they just want to write generic windows apps that sort-of work on any PC.
I don't want an 4 hour sessions with content creation on Citrix; agree, its nice and convenient for a quick check of SAP or something similar, doing a quick edit in Office files but creating a PowerPoint with regular complexity ... I would not like that. Productivity would be much lower.
I think the Surface Pro (and its Intel-based competitors) will have a good chance; specially in enterprise environment.
Also while traveling with reduced connectivity Citrix don't really help.
That is not a tablet, thats a netbook witch touch capabilities. Its very beautiful creation, but it has a screen so small....
So, its worse then an iPad an worse then a notebook and it is expensive..
So, its worse then an iPad an worse then a notebook and it is expensive..
I am currently using airserver to mirror my ipad to my laptop, which in turn projects to the screen via a VGA adaptor in my school (darn you enterprise wifi limitations and work-issued laptops with user restrictions!)
Interesting concept, but I think for now, I will stick with my macbook+ipad combo. The best of both worlds, and between both of them, I have more than enough juice to last a day's abuse.
Pricey, yes, but I am a firm believer of "you get what you pay for".
Interesting concept, but I think for now, I will stick with my macbook+ipad combo. The best of both worlds, and between both of them, I have more than enough juice to last a day's abuse.
Pricey, yes, but I am a firm believer of "you get what you pay for".
iPad will continue to own the market but this device creates a higher end tablet space and expands the market. I think over time it'll eat into the iPad's market share by drawing away power users. In the future possibly after Haswell, 86 architecture on a tablet could become the new premium tablet space. If that happens Apple will be in trouble because they can't compete with this without radically blowing up iOS and killing their silo'd mobile-desktop approach
With Office, I think MS is trying to preserve the price point of its IP by being careful in how they monetize off it. iOS is a budget market with prices pushed down through commoditization. Trying to counter race to the bottom pricing is probably why they're opting for a subscription and fighting Apple for that 30% revenue