So why can't the generators help with the pumping process? What good is unhealthy water on a dead ship as the lights are working.
Where did I say pumped into the ocean?
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Carnival Cruise ship lost power in Gulf, passenger reactions overboard?
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Where did I say pumped into the ocean?
Got me. Ask Carnival Cruise lines.
RE: Pumps. sorry MacNut I thought you were talking about pumping it overboard.
I'm not sure, but $500 does not seem like much, especially if people are going to have to replace belongings that have been covered in ****.
Problem with class actions is that lawyers are going to get a bulk of the settlement in fees.
It sounds like bad engineering or overconfidence that something bad could never happen.
That's true but it does send a strong message.
One that they will listen to compared to one person suing them. And I'm guessing there is an army of lawyers waiting for the ship to pull into port.
They have 5 generators, and 80% of the power goes to making the boat move, so assuming my basic math skills are still intact they only need to get a single generator up and running to have full power.
Of course if everything relies on the same turbine that caught fire, you're pretty screwed.
My friend was on the Splendor 2 years ago, same thing happened.
They just gave everyone free alcohol lol
They just gave everyone free alcohol lol
Yikes, I'm scheduled for my first cruise -- with Carnival, no less -- in a few months. I know these things don't happen very often but... yikes! 
At first it didn't seem so bad. Dead in the water, being towed back to a port, OK. You get a refund of everything you spent on the cruise, plus a free cruise next time, free airfare, etc. Other cruise ships were dropping off food.
Then the reports of raw sewage came in, and many hours of waiting to be fed, and that's when I figure it stopped being a good deal I guess dealing with 4000+ people in any sort of emergency situation isn't going to be fun.
I'm going to be sure to keep bottled water and some non-perishable snacks in my day pack when I arrive...
At first it didn't seem so bad. Dead in the water, being towed back to a port, OK. You get a refund of everything you spent on the cruise, plus a free cruise next time, free airfare, etc. Other cruise ships were dropping off food.
Then the reports of raw sewage came in, and many hours of waiting to be fed, and that's when I figure it stopped being a good deal
I guess dealing with 4000+ people in any sort of emergency situation isn't going to be fun.I'm going to be sure to keep bottled water and some non-perishable snacks in my day pack when I arrive...
Screw compensation. What they should have done is is pay for a large enough and fast enough ship (or ships) to get out there and offload the passengers to.
Full refund ($500?), free cruise in future (+$1000?), and $500.
And hotel stay and airfare if they choose ($400?).
Still.
Backup has its own engine, but it is only enough for minimal systems.
Apparently sewage was not one of them.
The 4 main engines provide would provide propulsion, electricity, and possibly hydraulic.
Deign failure in lack of redundancy of key system that rendered all 4 engines in-op.
System failure where Carnival did not create a procedure for main engine failure.
Carnival really F-ed up.
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I suspect Carnival never considered such an incident (very poor contingency planning), thus never designed common emergency toilet facilities and instructed passengers not to use in-room units (could have locked them too).
That's what I don't understand. Why didn't they cancel/postpone one of their other cruises and send that ship (Elation, Magic, etc) to pick up passengers from the Triumph?
I went on the Carnival Dream in 2011, and how the cruise works is they actually slow the boat down to increase transit times (what Carnival calls "fun days at sea") between ports. One of their other ships cold have easily gotten to the Triumph days ago.
Easier said then done when you have winds at 25 knots and seas of four to six feet.
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/02/15/us/carnival-cruise-line-ship-triumph-towed-into-port.html
Transferring that many people ship to ship at sea would be extraordinarily dangerous. Something that would only be attempted if the ship were in danger. As much as it sucked for the passengers, towing them to port was clearly the right thing to do.
Considering that this has happened several times now (with raw sewage and all) it seems the cruise ships aren't built nearly robustly enough to house 4000 people. They build them cheaply with no backups for critical systems and engine rooms built like the bridge of the Enterprise.
Which wouldn't be a big deal if they had the logistics to rescue a disabled ship, but when it takes a week to tow one and there is no way to get adequate food onboard or handle waste during that time, it makes Carnival look pretty incompetent.
Which wouldn't be a big deal if they had the logistics to rescue a disabled ship, but when it takes a week to tow one and there is no way to get adequate food onboard or handle waste during that time, it makes Carnival look pretty incompetent.
This is so overblown.
So they basically had to camp for a few days on the deck of a boat in the Caribbean. I'm sure the people living in Syria or Somalia would trade with them any day of the week.
This is the type of thing that belongs under "#firstworldproblems".
Yeah, it sucks their vacations were ruined, but in the grand scheme of things it's not that big of a deal. "We had to pee in bags" I mean **** fishermen do that daily.
Their boat didn't sink, they didn't get eaten by sharks, they didn't get hijacked, robbed, and tortured. There's always something worse that could happen.
So they basically had to camp for a few days on the deck of a boat in the Caribbean. I'm sure the people living in Syria or Somalia would trade with them any day of the week.
This is the type of thing that belongs under "#firstworldproblems".
Yeah, it sucks their vacations were ruined, but in the grand scheme of things it's not that big of a deal. "We had to pee in bags" I mean **** fishermen do that daily.
Their boat didn't sink, they didn't get eaten by sharks, they didn't get hijacked, robbed, and tortured. There's always something worse that could happen.
The American Way.
Crap happens; sometimes it overflows, too. People understand this before they get on a cruise ship. Sure, it really sucks - but I think Carnival is handling it quite well. They contained and handled the problem quickly (imagine if the FIRE had spread), refunded the cruise, offered ANOTHER cruise for free, and $500, and transportation. I think it sounds quite fair.
^^^ THIS FTW.
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What would you have done if you had been on board the ship? It's very easy to be clever after the fact, much harder when you are yourself in the situation.
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Sure. Where do you find an empty ship that can pick up 4,000 passengers?
This article from cruisecritic.com describes what's happened since the Splendor failure.
In some ways, this problem reminds me of the DC-10 UAL Flight 232 failure back in 1989. In that accident, a failure of the #2 engine severed all three of the redundant hydraulic systems. Due to the pilot's mad skills, 185 of the 296 people on-board survived. Afterwards, some "circuit breakers" were put in the third hydraulic line to protect against any single point of failure.
Floating hell? No one resorted to canniblism, so no biggie.
And it doesn't sound all that bad to me.
And it doesn't sound all that bad to me.