Besides the point - but true nonetheless. If StoneJack wants to discuss app stores and spending that's one thing. But a blanket statement that those that "wealthier" android buyers also "preferring cheaper things" is ridiculous. After 2-3 posts he still can't see how that statement is his opinion. That while he might mean App store purchasing - that's not at all what he said.
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Besides the point - but true nonetheless. If StoneJack wants to discuss app stores and spending that's one thing. But a blanket statement that those that "wealthier" android buyers also "preferring cheaper things" is ridiculous. After 2-3 posts he still can't see how that statement is his opinion. That while he might mean App store purchasing - that's not at all what he said.
You didnt seem to get the point. I mean, that market share increase is a special effect of several one-time surprises, and, is only single digits fluctuation that influence much with the big market share picture. Relying this kind of special events to always appear and save ones ass is like playing slot machines.
I got the point, since it was my point.
You claimed that 95% market share with only 30% of profits was "definitely [a] safe place and I will eventually squeeze out the rest 5% to less than 2% (and thus irrelevant) in a foreseeable future." I simply provided an example where this was not true. One where the majority side had an even stronger position than in the scenario that you chose.
It is very terrible.
I can't think of another explanation. Android apps are just as good as iOS apps in my experience and I doubt the average Galaxy user has a considerably lower disposable income that the average iPhone user. Most apps only cost less that $5 anyway so I doubt that is the reason. No, I've used Google Play and it's crap compared to iTunes.
What do Galaxy users have to do with this?
Just this past quarter... 162 million Android phones were sold. How many were Samsung Galaxy phones? Or even high-end phones at all?
That's what I keep saying... not every Android phone sold is a flagship Samsung phone.
There are a lot of Android phones sold from companies you've never heard of around the globe. And they're not all gems.
So I'm willing to bet that if you're only spending $80 on a phone instead of $600... you're probably not buying a lot of apps and earning those developers any revenue.
bet away. seems like a silly bet.
btw - It appears that Samsung is making 95% of the industry's profit with Android. Not saying that cheap phones and non-galaxy lines aren't selling and selling well. But I do think if Samsung is making 95% of the profits - mentioning Galaxy users is slightly relevant - no?
Quit being such a hater. It's not us rich people's fault we can buy high end iPhones with our massive disposable incomes, while you're slumming it with your cheap food stamp bought Android feature phone you'll never buy apps for (cuz you're poor).
Actually I got my husband's Thunderbolt when he upgraded - so I didn't even need to use food stamps.
Do you have any data showing that people who buy cheap Android phones actually purchase more apps than iPhone users?
Any way you slice it... the smartphone platform with 17% market share has more app revenue than the platform with 75% market share.
Android phones sell like crazy... we know this. Android phones come in all shapes, sizes and prices. Android phones vastly outnumber sales of the iPhone.
And yet the iPhone has more app revenue.
Earlier you blamed it on the Google Play Store. That was a unique take on the situation... I've never heard that before.
But whatever the reason... Android's colossal market share is not translating into app revenue for developers.
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Like I said before... 162 million Android phones were sold last quarter.
Estimates are that Samsung sold 15 million Galaxy SIII and 10 million Galaxy S4 during that quarter. And let's say a few million Galaxy Note II and the older Galaxy SII were sold as well.
Now compare that to the 162 million total Android phones sold.
You saw the chart in this article, right? 162 million Android phones sold last quarter.
Flagship Galaxy phones are a tiny percentage of Android phones sold today... and that's why I questioned their relevance.
I'm not knocking the Galaxy series of phones. But I can see that they make of a fraction of Android sales.
Profit margins vary though. A $600 Samsung Galaxy with a 16% profit margin vs a $60 whitebox Android phone with a 1% profit margin.
If you look at marketshare instead of profit share you get a more accurate picture of the user base.
That low end is where the monetization problems come from