Yes, you can do it manually.Of course we recommend to always have backups, but we are giving you the instrument to remove data that you may not need and you cannot do that manually.
Yes, you can do it manually.Of course we recommend to always have backups, but we are giving you the instrument to remove data that you may not need and you cannot do that manually.
But is there anything else I need to buy in order to keep my macs running to full performance and keeping them "clean"??
That's a good tip, and there's a few other locations to check.The other tip is, periodically, to go to System Preferences -> Accounts -> Login items and have a check on what is being started automatically every time you log in.
Yes, you can do it manually.
Yes, you can also do that manually, But in CleanMyMac2 you have it in one place:That's a good tip, and there's a few other locations to check.
Check the following locations for apps that automatically launch on startup and delete any you don't need/want:
- System Preferences > Accounts > yourusername > Login Items (Lion and ML users: System Preferences > Users & Groups > yourusername > Login Items)
- /Library/LaunchAgents/ (Lion and ML users: In Finder, click Go > Go to Folder > then enter the path above)
- ~/Library/LaunchAgents/ (Lion and ML users: In Finder, click Go > Go to Folder > then enter the path above)
- /Library/StartupItems/ (Lion and ML users: In Finder, click Go > Go to Folder > then enter the path above)
See the latter part of post #8 for information about deleting caches. Not only is doing so worsening performance, the effects are only temporary. Caches exist to improve performance. There are better ways to free up space, and most don't require 3rd party apps.Just wanted to give you guys my 0.2 cents :
In my opinion, if you do have a small SSD you should clean your Mac once in a while (let's say once every couple of months) with apps like CleanMyMac or Onyx so you can clear up a few GB of cache and logs.
If you don't care about disk space (let's say you have a 1TB drive or bigger) I say let OS X do it's job.
Carry on now, this is not the post you are looking for.
See the latter part of post #8 for information about deleting caches. Not only is doing so worsening performance, the effects are only temporary. Caches exist to improve performance. There are better ways to free up space, and most don't require 3rd party apps.
Freeing up drive space in Mac OS X
This is exactly why apps like CMM are not recommended. Cache files should only be deleted if there is a specific problem, and then only the particular cache files involved should be deleted. Deleting cache files en masse as a part of "routine maintenance" or space savings should not be done at all.I can show you dozen of cases when some corrupt info was stored in cache files causing slow down of the whole system and could even make it Unbootable!
Again, a specific app and specific cache file involved. 3rd party apps are not necessary to delete a file in Finder, and in the hands of a novice user, some of these apps, like CMM, can delete far more than what was intended, potentially causing more severe problems than simply needing to save some space.When you don't use some apps very often they will anyway store really old data in cache. Take Google Earth for example, it can cache several gigabytes of maps, but you may launch it only once a year. Do you really need that all the time?
And yet another example where deleting only specific cache files is appropriate, not blindly deleting them all. When troubleshooting problems, only those factors that contribute to the problem should be addressed. It's foolish to delete all cache files when deleting a single file would do the job.Also there is another problem with caches. Some Applications store cache in huge number of small files (like Safari did previously). When the number of files in one directory grows(>10k), you will notice how your file system will start to lag, trying to traverse such directories. And instead of speeding up the App you will notice slow down of the whole OS!
So you recommend ordinary users to do it manually, right? How well must the user know the system to remove "right" cache or do the "right" maintenance?Again, a specific app and specific cache file involved. 3rd party apps are not necessary to delete a file in Finder, and in the hands of a novice user, some of these apps, like CMM, can delete far more than what was intended, potentially causing more severe problems than simply needing to save some space.
And yet another example where deleting only specific cache files is appropriate, not blindly deleting them all. When troubleshooting problems, only those factors that contribute to the problem should be addressed. It's foolish to delete all cache files when deleting a single file would do the job.
Tell it to our users that we really helped! Everything needs maintenance and care, and believe me, Mac users want it to be quick and easy, without doing anything manually!You can keep trying to justify the need for your app, but the fact remains that many of its functions are either ineffective, counter-productive and at best, unnecessary.
The marketing of such apps plays on the "Windows mentality" of many users who migrated to OS X from older Windows systems where routine maintenance was necessary to maintain good performance. Many uninformed users believe they need to do the same things on OS X, not realizing it is a completely different platform that doesn't share the same maintenance requirements as those Windows PCs they left behind.
I recommend that users not delete anything, unless they know exactly what they're deleting. If they are not equipped to do troubleshooting for themselves, they should seek help from somebody who is qualified. Using an app to automate deletion of files when the user doesn't know what they're doing is a very unwise move and can lead to even greater problems than simply needing some drive space freed up.So you recommend ordinary users to do it manually, right? How well must the user know the system to remove "right" cache or do the "right" maintenance?
Your track record proves that you have not done a good job in that area, as evidenced by so many complaints about things being deleted that shouldn't have been.It is our responsibility to prevent users from doing something harmful! And we help the users to make quick and safe maintenance easily without knowing all that technical staff!
There is the fallacy in your argument. Not everything needs the users' involvement for maintenance. You're trying to convince Mac users that they need to "fiddle around under the hood" or use your app to do the same thing, when that simply isn't true. Many of the "maintenance" items you suggest do not need to be done at all.Everything needs maintenance and care
"Quick and easy" frequently runs contrary to "thorough and effective and accurate". Deleting some things should require more thought and effort, so only those users who know what they're doing will attempt doing so. That's the very reason Library folders and system files are hidden by default in OS X.Mac users want it to be quick and easy, without doing anything manually!
You claim to be a newbie. In your very "first" post, you endorse a utility that newbies should not use. Why should we not be suspicious?I have been using cleanmymac (and cleanmypc on my gaming pc) for 2-3 years now. I have never had a problem with it deleting any data that I didn't want it to.
It gives clear information about what data can be deleted under the detailed results page. The most useful feature for me has been the app uninstaller, it lets you see app size and date last accessed, it also often clears up associated files that have been left behind after deleting an app.
While you may not have had problems, enough people have that caution is advised. As the app is unnecessary to keep a Mac running well, it's not worth the risk of something going wrong.I have been using cleanmymac (and cleanmypc on my gaming pc) for 2-3 years now. I have never had a problem with it deleting any data that I didn't want it to.
It doesn't do a thorough job of finding and removing files/folders related to deleted apps, sometimes leaving behind files that are larger than the ones deleted. For more information, read this and this. If you just want to delete the app, drag the .app file to the trash. No other software needed. If you want to completely remove all associated files/folders, no removal apps will do the job.The most useful feature for me has been the app uninstaller, it lets you see app size and date last accessed, it also often clears up associated files that have been left behind after deleting an app.
You claim to be a newbie. In your very "first" post, you endorse a utility that newbies should not use. Why should we not be suspicious?
While you may not have had problems, enough people have that caution is advised. As the app is unnecessary to keep a Mac running well, it's not worth the risk of something going wrong.
It doesn't do a thorough job of finding and removing files/folders related to deleted apps, sometimes leaving behind files that are larger than the ones deleted. For more information, read this and this. If you just want to delete the app, drag the .app file to the trash. No other software needed. If you want to completely remove all associated files/folders, no removal apps will do the job.The most effective method for complete app removal is manual deletion:
Another happy user of CMM2. I've been using it and CMM1 for a couple of years with zero problems. I wouldn't normally post but I like that MacPaw have come on here to answer questions; I think it's commendable of them especially the tone of some replies.
- Using it on 256 SSD
- Not a new user - registered here in 2005
- No connection at all to Macpaw other than paying user