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Legendary investor Carl Icahn disclosed on Twitter today that his holding company has taken a 'large position' in Apple, believing that the company is 'extremely undervalued' and should increase its share buyback program.

This is similar to the advice that Warren Buffett gave earlier this year, though Buffett did not take a position in Apple.

Icahn disclosed his position on Twitter after yesterday warning investors that he may disclose material information on that account in accordance with new SEC guidelines on social media use.
We currently have a large position in APPLE. We believe the company to be extremely undervalued. Spoke to Tim Cook today. More to come. - 12:21 PM - 13 Aug 13

Had a nice conversation with Tim Cook today. Discussed my opinion that a larger buyback should be done now. We plan to speak again shortly. - 12:25 PM - 13 Aug 13
Icahn, who has an estimated net worth of $20 billion, has recently been extensively involved in efforts to keep Dell from going private and he also holds a 16% stake in Nuance, the speech recognition company that Apple uses for Siri.

Update: According to Bloomberg, Icahn has taken a position of at least $1 billion in Apple and is projecting the stock price to rise to over $600.

Update 2: Apple issued this statement regarding Icahn's investment:
We appreciate the interest and investment of all our shareholders. Tim had a very positive conversation with Mr. Icahn today.
Update 3: The Wall Street Journal has more from an interview with Mr. Icahn.
"This is a no brainer to go buy stock in a company that can go borrow" at a low rate, Mr. Icahn said. "Buy the company here and even without earnings growth, we think it ought to be worth $625."

Mr. Icahn's thesis rests on Apple borrowing at about a 3% interest rate and buying back shares right now, likely at around $525 a piece. That would send shares to $625, Mr. Icahn says, without taking into account any earnings growth.

Article Link: Carl Icahn Discloses 'Large Position' in Apple, Believes Company is 'Extremely Undervalued'
 

rjtyork

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Hmmmm does he know something we don't? There may be a huge surprise waiting for us on the 10th... :)
 

ValSalva

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Why does Icahn want to prevent Dell from going private? To make money off of them? If Dell has any chance it's probably going private again, at least for a while.

Apple should go private again too. Then it wouldn't have to be subject to Wall Street analyst nonsense about innovation, market share, etc. Apple could just do what they do best and keep making its billions. I know, never going to happen.
 

CausticPuppy

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Holy cow, the stock price jumped at around 2:30pm EDT today which is right when he made that announcement. :eek:
 

smithrh

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Having someone influential say Apple is undervalued: great.

Having Icahn be that someone: not so good.

This could be very very very problematic.
 

Rogifan

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Why does Icahn want to prevent Dell from going private? To make money off of them? If Dell has any chance it's probably going private again, at least for a while.

Apple should go private again too. Then it wouldn't have to be subject to Wall Street analyst nonsense about innovation, market share, etc. Apple could just do what they do best and keep making its billions. I know, never going to happen.

Explain exactly how Apple could go private?
 

skinned66

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If I ever had a company I'd risk staying small and maintaining full control than having my coat tails ridden while getting whipped with a riding crop by people like this guy.
 
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HiRez

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Stock price and market manipulation at it's finest?

I'm not sad the price is shooting up, but yeah, always suspicious of this. Let's see if Icahn cashes out the second it reaches its peak and then tweets about how overvalued Apple is as he shorts the stock.
 

macchiato2009

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these guys are desperate because they didn't get a good ROI as expected :rolleyes:

they all believed that the stock would make $1,000 :D
 

SeattleMoose

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But what happened to the "24/7 shelling" of Apple over the last year?

You know, all those "analysts"......those fountains of wisdom..."Apple is doomed, DOOMED I tell you!!!"..... :rolleyes:

Hey Carl....would you like a burger and fries with that stock purchase?
 

Shanpdx

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Carl Icahn -- does not look good for AAPL.

Heard lots of non sense with mentor graphics in OR and now DELL ...

not sure if he is good investor or not.
 

jovada

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So you buy a load of shares, talk to the CEO to start a new buyback, and you create your own profit. Nice... :confused:
 

Rogifan

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I'm not sad the price is shooting up, but yeah, always suspicious of this. Let's see if Icahn cashes out the second it reaches its peak and then tweets about how overvalued Apple is as he shorts the stock.

Well he's taken positions in companies like Netflix. Not sure if he's still in it or has cashed out.
 

sw1tcher

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Is this the same Icahn that wanted new Apple management? Is this the same Icahn that wanted Apple to sell bargain-priced hardware at discount chain stores which would have diluted Apple's image?

Not sure how great this news is.

Carl Icahn gunning for Apple

April 01, 2009

The high-profile investor believes Apple is due for a management shakeup -- and a drastic change in focus

Billionaire investor Carl Icahn intimated on Tuesday that after losing his bid to take over Yahoo last year, he has set his sights on Apple. Should Icahn succeed in his takeover effort, he has a radical strategy planned for Apple: To reposition the company's products as bargain computers.

Icahn has a history of pressuring companies to change their ways, and because he holds -- or has the resources to buy -- massive amounts of stock, he is often able to ensure that his voice is heard. When Yahoo rebuffed Microsoft's buyout propositions, Icahn famously stepped in, demanding that Yahoo acquiesce to Microsoft's offer and threatening a proxy fight for control of the company if he did not get his way.

Now, Icahn has designs on pushing Apple in a new direction. He claims to see a "leadership vacuum" at the company and plenty of opportunity to expand the company's user base. "Apple has aggressively pursued a niche market," Icahn said. "It has been successful in that niche, but that is only one small piece of the pie. By cutting itself off from lower price points, it is capping its potential for success."

Icahn says that Apple has pursued branding prestige with too much vigor, noting that "all the prestige in the world won't get somebody to buy a laptop for $1,000 when he could buy the same one for $600," a line of attack Microsoft's Steve Ballmer recently used.

In Icahn's view, Apple should split its product line in two, maintaining "prestige" products on the higher end, but also introducing a differently branded line of bargain-priced hardware and selling it at discount chain stores, thereby extending Apple's reach among retail outlets and not just consumers.

Apple does have some presence in retail chains; it sells its popular iPhone handheld at Wal-Mart, for example. But the company has been reluctant to stray too far from its own Apple Stores and other official Apple retailers.

Although he did not say exactly how he plans to exert pressure on Apple to change its ways, Icahn historically has shown an affinity for proxy fights in which he installs individuals sympathetic to his views on the board of directors of a given company, taking the fight from public statements to the very leadership of the firm. In Apple's case, Icahn may push to install himself as CEO if merely taking over the board doesn't give him enough power to push the company in his proposed direction, suggested Lance Hawkins, an analyst at Redwoods Research.

http://www.infoworld.com/d/adventures-in-it/carl-icahn-gunning-apple-717

Hopefully he'll take a hand-off approach this time.
 
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