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veedubshafer

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I was thinking about upgrading my 16gb ip5 for a 32gb ip5s. I was wondering if anyone knows if you can set it up to press the home button and swipe to open like before??? I am so used to that I don't think I want to change to a finger print that you have to press at h same angle every time. I don't use a PIN to lock my phone either so security means little to me.
 

veedubshafer

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You don't have to press it at the same angle, it works at any angle.

But if my phone is sitting on my desk a lot of times I press and swipe with my pointer finger instead of my thumb like if I'm holding it.....
 

-iKris-

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But if my phone is sitting on my desk a lot of times I press and swipe with my pointer finger instead of my thumb like if I'm holding it.....

You sound like you want to find a reason not to use it, and so far you haven't found a good one. But since you'll be able to turn it off it doesn't really matter. Try it and if you don't like it go back to slide to unlock.
 

ABC5S

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Since you don't care about security that much, just use the phone as before. If by chance you want to use the fingerprint function, in order to set it up, you first should enter a passcode (In case fingerprint reader does not work and you need to get in), than set up the fingerprint security right after.
 
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joeblow7777

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Of course you don't have to use it. It's just one more security option. You may use the scanner, a 4 digit code, a full password, or nothing at all.
 

sviato

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What if I just want to press the homebutton to see the notifications on the lockscreen, will it instantly unlock the phone instead?
 

Iphoneness

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-iKris-

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And just to confirm, you don't have to press the button, right? Just a touch? I'm only asking because a lot of hands on videos have got people accidentally activating Siri when they try to unlock it.
 

veedubshafer

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You sound like you want to find a reason not to use it, and so far you haven't found a good one. But since you'll be able to turn it off it doesn't really matter. Try it and if you don't like it go back to slide to unlock.


Don't get me wrong guys I'm not bitching about it. I think it's a cool idea. I was just wondering so I asked the question. Seems like a good thread because others may be thinking the same thing and haven't asked. Thanks guys!
 

matttye

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That's good. How about when double pressing the home button to get music controls? Seems like that may be enough the get a read

Don't forget control centre works from the lock screen so just swipe up; no need for a double tap.

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And just to confirm, you don't have to press the button, right? Just a touch? I'm only asking because a lot of hands on videos have got people accidentally activating Siri when they try to unlock it.

Not sure how it works with Siri, but Apple described it as a capacitive touch button which means its touch sensitive rather than clickable.
 

Iphoneness

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Don't get me wrong guys I'm not bitching about it. I think it's a cool idea. I was just wondering so I asked the question. Seems like a good thread because others may be thinking the same thing and haven't asked. Thanks guys!

Sorry man, didn't mean to sound like a dbag, haha.
Anyways, I'm sure they've done thorough testing with all of our concerns, just like the question you asked and it'll be a great experience for us all!

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Don't forget control centre works from the lock screen so just swipe up; no need for a double tap.

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Not sure how it works with Siri, but Apple described it as a capacitive touch button which means its touch sensitive rather than clickable.

I didn't know it wasn't an actual physical button anymore. That's cool!
 

-iKris-

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I guess the moment you click the home button (once for Siri or twice for music controls) it just bypasses the scanner...
 

Daveoc64

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Do i have to? No, but it's a welcome addition since it's adding towards security

I keep reading people saying things like this, but I just don't understand why.

To use a fingerprint reader, you need a passcode (or password) because:

a) There's a chance that it will sometimes be unable to read the fingerprint properly.

b) The passcode may be used to derive an encryption key that is needed to secure the data on the device

Given that the option to bypass the fingerprint reader is always going to be there, we're back to a passcode (or password) as we have now, and therefore there's absolutely no change in terms of "security".
 

veedubshafer

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Sorry man, didn't mean to sound like a dbag, haha.
Anyways, I'm sure they've done thorough testing with all of our concerns, just like the question you asked and it'll be a great experience for us all!

It's all good bud! And yes I've been telling myself the same thing that I'm sure apple got it right. (Hopefully no "antennagate")
 

matttye

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I keep reading people saying things like this, but I just don't understand why.

To use a fingerprint reader, you need a passcode (or password) because:

a) There's a chance that it will sometimes be unable to read the fingerprint properly.

b) The passcode may be used to derive an encryption key that is needed to secure the data on the device

Given that the option to bypass the fingerprint reader is always going to be there, we're back to a passcode (or password) as we have now, and therefore there's absolutely no change in terms of "security".

There's a slight change actually; if someone sees you enter your pass code they can get in, but they can't get in if they see you enter your fingerprint.
 

d123

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I keep reading people saying things like this, but I just don't understand why.

To use a fingerprint reader, you need a passcode (or password) because:

a) There's a chance that it will sometimes be unable to read the fingerprint properly.

b) The passcode may be used to derive an encryption key that is needed to secure the data on the device

Given that the option to bypass the fingerprint reader is always going to be there, we're back to a passcode (or password) as we have now, and therefore there's absolutely no change in terms of "security".

But instead of the usual simple 4 digit password most use, the back up password for the scanner can be a complicated alphanumeric code as it won't be the normal way in.
 

Brenz

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And just to confirm, you don't have to press the button, right? Just a touch? I'm only asking because a lot of hands on videos have got people accidentally activating Siri when they try to unlock it.

From what I understand you have to press the button down and allow it back up like you would to wake your phone normally and then hold your finger there to be read.

As you see in this video http://youtu.be/9-ppMRFcDWk?t=3m48s the guy initially just touches his finger to the scanner but that won't activate it.
 
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