iPad mini iPad mini 2 will NOT have retina display, stop dreaming!

rkuo said:

A7 has enough horsepower to run the retina without being an "x" version.

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Curun said:

Smaller, with the the same resolution panel, means higher PPI, means smaller pixels, means you need more backlight power to achieve the same brightness.

A7X is on new 28nm process, by all accounts, it's a source of the iPhone 5S supply constraint.

Launching 2 new highvolume products on this already constrained process seems unlikely.

A6X on old process seems more likely, but it's not super power efficient. I imagine they need to work some engineering magic to achieve slim and battery life.

I suspect it's going to get thicker like IPad 3 Retina did.

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Interesting. So would the old A6 from the iPhone 5. It's at least as powerful as the A5X I think used in the iPad 3.

And it's low power. Interesting. Also that chip production line has no constraints on it like the new A7 line does with iPhone 5S and iPad 5. That makes a lot of sense.

I bet the iPad Mini2 Retina gets upgraded to plain A6. iOS7 will get further iPad optimizations, and it will continue to limp along. iOS8 will tax it, and it will have a short life like the iPad 3 had.

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MythicFrost said:

In my opinion, it's better they don't use a Retina display if the battery life will drop too low. I think the Mini currently trumps all the other tablets' battery life.

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Spacial said:

It seems that Apple may have avoided the retina display originally due to its higher cost. Maintaining high gross profits are the hallmark of Apples success. Proving they can sell the mini with its current low res display has reinforced Apple's track record. I see no reason to go to retina for at least one or two more generations. Especially since the mini's have already eaten into iPad 4 sales.

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naughtynumber9 said:

Something tells me that Apple is less worried about selling one of their own devices over the other than losing revenue to Google or Amazon who already have retina equivalent 7" screens with fantastic hardware and prices. If Apple doesn't come out with retina this time I think they can kiss the 7" market goodbye. They will, they don't have a choice.

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xNYMetsx said:

...Don't try to defend Apple either. Apple was slammed last year by the media and consumers and it's only going to get worse.

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xNYMetsx said:

I see your point but the screen is so bad. Going from a high resolution phone to a low resolution tablet is awful. Nothing good is going to come out of a non-Retina iPad mini 2. They'll be slammed by consumers and the media once again.

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nfl46 said:

They need a retina iPad mini rant section or topic on this forum.

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TTMax said:

With Amazon and Google having hi-res 7 inch tablets, there is zero chance that Apple will release an iPad mini 2 with a 1024x768 resolution - they would be the laughing stock of the tablet world. If they have to wait until 2014 to get the weight and size right, they will. Having used the mini extensively however, an extra mm and a few more grams to squeeze a retina display (and a decent battery) in wouldn't be a problem for me.

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naughtynumber9 said:

Something tells me that Apple is less worried about selling one of their own devices over the other than losing revenue to Google or Amazon who already have retina equivalent 7" screens with fantastic hardware and prices. If Apple doesn't come out with retina this time I think they can kiss the 7" market goodbye. They will, they don't have a choice.

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saintforlife said:

Let me repeat that. The iPad mini 2 will NOT have retina display. Here is why:

1. If they put a retina display in it, their only screen resolution choice is the resolution of the iPad 4. If they do that the iPad mini's will have a higher ppi than the iPad 4 making it even better than bigger iPad. That is never happening. Apple will never compromise their high end product like that or people who buy the more premium product will start complaining that their display is inferior. The only way the iPad mini gets a retina screen is if the bigger iPad doubles its pixels from its current level and that ain't happening for a few years for technical and economic reasons.

2. Squeezing a retina display on the mini for the next generation will cause heating and battery life issues, possibly forcing Apple to make the mini thicker and heavier (because battery technology just isn't there). That is a design path I bet Apple will never go towards again. The iPad 3 was a mistake and everyone knows it. iPad 4 is a minor patch work job to fix that somewhat. iPad 5 will be the best big iPad ever. It will be thinner and lighter than the 3/4.

So the bottom line is, iPad mini is not getting a retina display for a couple more generations at least. People need to start accepting that.

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I am going to add what I posted in my 3rd post here. People keep just referring to my OP, when I put in a lot more details in my subsequent posts to justify my line of thinking:

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Are you even familiar with Apple's pixel doubling strategy to maintain app backwards compatibility? I am thinking you don't. Apple will not pick an arbitrary higher resolution screen out of thin air. It is double or nothing. Doubling the iPad 4's 2048-by-1536 is not happening any time soon. Please read my 1st and 2nd posts.

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Here we go again. I repeat Apple will NOT pick an arbitrary resolution like that out of thin air! When will people start realizing that? They are stuck with these multiples:
1024-by-768
2048-by-1536
4096-by-3072 --> NOT HAPPENING ANY TIME IN THE NEAR FUTURE!

I repeat, these are the only resolutions possible on both the larger iPad and the smaller iPad to maintain app compatibility. Apple will not deviate from this.

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This below spec sheet is from the Apple website. The iPad mini is not getting a retina screen (2048-by-1536) unless the larger iPad gets a 4096-by-3072 screen because Apple CANNOT have a lower PPI screen on their more premium device. That is never going to happen.

The iPad mini's only screen choice to go retina is (2048-by-1536). I hope people stop throwing random higher resolution screen sizes around. Apple can never break apps backward compatibility.


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saintforlife said:

Let me repeat that. The iPad mini 2 will NOT have retina display. Here is why:

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saintforlife said:

Let me repeat that. The iPad mini 2 will NOT have retina display. Here is why:

1. If they put a retina display in it, their only screen resolution choice is the resolution of the iPad 4. If they do that the iPad mini's will have a higher ppi than the iPad 4 making it even better than bigger iPad. That is never happening. Apple will never compromise their high end product like that or people who buy the more premium product will start complaining that their display is inferior. The only way the iPad mini gets a retina screen is if the bigger iPad doubles its pixels from its current level and that ain't happening for a few years for technical and economic reasons.

2. Squeezing a retina display on the mini for the next generation will cause heating and battery life issues, possibly forcing Apple to make the mini thicker and heavier (because battery technology just isn't there). That is a design path I bet Apple will never go towards again. The iPad 3 was a mistake and everyone knows it. iPad 4 is a minor patch work job to fix that somewhat. iPad 5 will be the best big iPad ever. It will be thinner and lighter than the 3/4.

So the bottom line is, iPad mini is not getting a retina display for a couple more generations at least. People need to start accepting that.

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I am going to add what I posted in my 3rd post here. People keep just referring to my OP, when I put in a lot more details in my subsequent posts to justify my line of thinking:

vvvvvvvvvvv


Are you even familiar with Apple's pixel doubling strategy to maintain app backwards compatibility? I am thinking you don't. Apple will not pick an arbitrary higher resolution screen out of thin air. It is double or nothing. Doubling the iPad 4's 2048-by-1536 is not happening any time soon. Please read my 1st and 2nd posts.

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Here we go again. I repeat Apple will NOT pick an arbitrary resolution like that out of thin air! When will people start realizing that? They are stuck with these multiples:
1024-by-768
2048-by-1536
4096-by-3072 --> NOT HAPPENING ANY TIME IN THE NEAR FUTURE!

I repeat, these are the only resolutions possible on both the larger iPad and the smaller iPad to maintain app compatibility. Apple will not deviate from this.

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This below spec sheet is from the Apple website. The iPad mini is not getting a retina screen (2048-by-1536) unless the larger iPad gets a 4096-by-3072 screen because Apple CANNOT have a lower PPI screen on their more premium device. That is never going to happen.

The iPad mini's only screen choice to go retina is (2048-by-1536). I hope people stop throwing random higher resolution screen sizes around. Apple can never break apps backward compatibility.


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