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Cougarcat

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Sep 19, 2003
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I doubt that's a consideration for Apple. iPad 2 and iPad mini without retina still run iOS 7.

True, but I think it's hard to argue that iOS 7 was designed with retina in mind. Excluding iOS 7 for the iPad mini and 2 would have been worse than having them look not quite as good. Similarly, Apple won't make an iOS 7-ized OS X only for retina macs.

That said, iCloud.com already looks like iOS 7 so I'm probably wrong.
 

mdelvecchio

macrumors 68040
Sep 3, 2010
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I hope they make it exactly like iOS 7 for continuity's sake. Why go in these incremental steps when it's obvious that they will eventually shift to iOS' look entirely?

that isnt obvious at all. as theyve stated before, desktop and mobile are two different use cases, each w/ its own design solution.
 

nomore

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We can already see some direction to this in XCode 5.


XCode 4 looks better IMO.
 

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Slix

macrumors 65816
Mar 24, 2010
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At least call it "10.9.5".

I'd expect this from maybe Tupperware, or Victoria's Secret (the next generation of our best bra ever!), but not an engineering/tech company.

Basic math, Apple. You're not gonna keep the education market like this...

OTOH, there's no such thing as bad publicity, right?

Software version numbers are NOT decimal numbers.
Because if they were, 10.9.1 would not work. Also, if that applied, wouldn't 10.10.1 be different than 10.1.1? Of course.
 

elgrecomac

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Jan 15, 2008
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Howzabout fixing 10.9 before we get too caught up in 10.10

10.9, for many of us, has considerable issues. The 10.9.1 release was a 'Mem' moment for those of us in this camp. So, come on Apple, fix 10.9!
 

I like bananas

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Oct 31, 2013
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I love the look of OS X. I remember Jony Ive once saying something like "When you see a very well-designed object, you think 'of course it's that way, why would it be any other way?". That's how I feel about OS X. And that's definitely not how I feel about iOS 7...
 

Freida

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Oct 22, 2010
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Whenever I see 10.10 I cringe, 10.10=10.1
Sorry but 10.10 is not the same as 10.1

1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11

I don't see 1 being the same as 10 in that sequence so please leave it :))
or you think that we will have 10.9; 10.1 and then 10.11? Please!
:)
 

coolfactor

macrumors 604
Jul 29, 2002
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I would like them to focus on reliability and making the OS more efficient. I can't stand how much of a resource hog OSX has become.

On what machines? Newer all-Flash Macs are slick. Nothing slows 'em down. Could that be the problem, you need a newer machine?

One of the biggest factors in speed is network communications. Today's computers, and especially Mavericks, are practically 100% reliant on the Internet to get stuff done, at least that's how it's designed. I can't imagine what a Mac is like without iCloud integration. That seems so foreign to me.
 

thekeyring

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Jan 5, 2012
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At least call it "10.9.5".

I'd expect this from maybe Tupperware, or Victoria's Secret (the next generation of our best bra ever!), but not an engineering/tech company.

Basic math, Apple. You're not gonna keep the education market like this...

OTOH, there's no such thing as bad publicity, right?


Again, that goes for actual numbers, but not software releases. As an earlier commentator pointed out, you have software updates like 4.3.1 which make no sense on a number line.
 

iBreatheApple

macrumors 68030
Sep 3, 2011
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Same ol' incremental update if this is accurate. I know a company can't release groundbreaking in ovation every year but I'm getting a little bored as of late with the standard product updates. iOS 7s interface was a much needed overhaul but not much else has changed lately. I'll still stick with Apple for the foreseeable future but I am definitely bored.
 

AdeFowler

macrumors 68020
Aug 27, 2004
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Macrumors should bother to state that this isn't a report by 9to5Mac but rather a rare opinion piece by the ever-reliable Mark Gurman. It should also be said that iCloud.com's redesign somewhat contradicts his opinion.

Exactly. How this makes the front page I’ll never know.
 

WaxedJacket

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Oct 18, 2013
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I'm okay with this. Why am I always in the minority with UI changes and Apple. I'm kinda sick of the round bubbly icons. The age of the Aqua interface is dead people, get over it. :cool:

If anything, be more upset that they're releasing the OS with the 10.10 stepping. Ugh.
 

iChrist

macrumors 65816
Sep 7, 2011
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UGH!!!


Enough of this "Flat" ugliness already!!!!


I hope they make HUGE changes to OSX. I want a cleaner UI.

You people with your desperate clinging to hideous skeumorphic principles. Maybe the save icon should still be a floppy disk, and the iTunes icon a CD. So that way senior citizens will know what the icons are for.

:rolleyes:
 

Rodster

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May 15, 2007
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I have no problems with a flatter look. Besides it will probably be a free upgrade. You can't complain with FREE :D
 

gnasher729

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Software version numbers is NOT the same as decimal numbers.

MacOS X 10.4.11 caused problems for some devs who expected for example 10.4.6 or newer and used code that decided that 10.4.11 was obviously slightly older than 10.4.2 :mad: Hope that won't happen with 10.10.
 

Cougarcat

macrumors 604
Sep 19, 2003
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No, it isn't. iOS had a congruent design language with OSX until iOS 7. They will make both iOS and OSX congruent in design once again in the near future. Come back to me in a year and a half or so and we can chat about who's right. ;)

There has never been complete congruity with Apple UI across iOS, iCloud.com, and OS X. The best you can say is that they used the same icons/textures but that's about it.
 

milo

macrumors 604
Sep 23, 2003
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as a user, how is that so? how is the file system letting me down and how would my experience be better w/ a new one?

Continuous integrity checking and automatic repair.

iOS had a congruent design language with OSX

He didn't say "congruent design language", he said "shift to iOS' look entirely" which I wouldn't consider the same thing. Looks that are complimentary to each other, sure but not the same look.
 

PatriotInvasion

macrumors 68000
Jul 18, 2010
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Why not OS XI? 10.10 just seems bizarre.

Also, while the "flat" craze looks nice, there will come a time sooner or later that designers say "Wow, that shape would look even better with a drop shadow and lighting gradient." Design is cyclical. ;)
 

Rogifan

macrumors Penryn
Nov 14, 2011
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Hmm this seems more like an opinion piece from Gurman, not that he has inside information from someone at Apple. MR should update the title to reflect that.
 
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