Originally posted by ddtlm
Moxiemike:
I realize that you didn't talk about death, but really the use of nukes was completely insignificant in the face of the other death in WW2. I don't intend to look up the numbers, but it may be that even the firebombing of Dresden killed more people, and obviously that is nothing compared to the millions upon millions who died in Russia, or in Germany's death camps.
Nukes where a good way to end a terrible war. You need to stop America-bashing and try to look at things objectively.
I'll stop America-bashing when you stop the blind and pathetic "patriotism" to a country that probably would send you off to die in a money war in Iraw quicker than you could say U S of A!
Sure, there were millions of casulties in WWII. But I'm not talking about the 70,000 lives lost when we decided it would be best to use brute force to end the war quickly.
We're talking about the slow effects of the nukes we dropped. And the innocent lives. We attempted to commit a genocide to win a war. We're not better than the Nazis. The effects of the radiation poisoning continued to
show up until about a month after the bombing. The bomb also killed or permanently damaged fetuses in the womb.
And of course, there's the famous quote that I tend to think of when arguing with people who cannot seem to think globally, aside from thinking that America is the only country around: "One man's freedom fighter is another man's terrorist"
We're terrorists. Or more appropriately, our government are the terrorists. However, much like the Taliban, Saddam, et. al, they hide behind a level of security that leaves the only option to attack are innocent people.
America, for our complete lack of general dignity in foreign relations, our belief that we're the world's police force, from 1945 up to 2003, we pretty much deserve what we get.
Unfortunately, just like in japan, a lot of smart thinking people will suffer. But if it makes the world a better place, and alleviates the corporate/politcal greed that powers America....i'm ok with it. But it won't. We'll keep flaunting our money instead of being humble. We'll build bigger buildings. Larger SUVs, we'll keep polluting the environment to keep McD's happy so they can put ugly McDs in vatican city and we'll continually force our politcal beliefs on other countries. We'll overthrow governments that we don't agree with and continue creating talibans to fight them. We'll do the initial research and funding for the next bin laden. And We'll act surprised and shocked when it all comes back to bite us in the arse.
We're just as bad as any other country....
