iTunes 7.1 (Apple TV Support) and Quicktime 7.1.5

matticus008 · Mar 5, 2007

BobbyDigital said:
Its so hard to remember which artist to look under... If Apple made it possible to have multiple artist tags, these songs could be found under any of the 3 artists names! It would make my library so much more organized.

Smart playlist? Add all of your jazz artists to it or use the jazz genre tag. As for finding it in the list, having it under each artist would make the library even longer to scroll through, which seems like a waste of space and time. If you type "armstrong" into the search bar, it will automatically find all his solo work and also any duets, trios, quartets, and what have you.

BobbyDigital · Mar 5, 2007

kerio said:

It seems confirmed that AppleTV will support Gaming

Code:

"4309.161" = "Are you sure you want to sync games? All existing games on the Apple TV ^1 will be replaced with games from this iTunes library.";
"4309.162" = "Are you sure you do not want to sync games? All existing games on the Apple TV ^1 will be removed.";
"4309.163" = "Syncing games on ^1";
"4309.164" = "Some of the games in your iTunes library were not copied to the Apple TV ^1 because they cannot be played on this Apple TV.";
"4309.165" = "Some of the games in your iTunes library, including the game ^0, were not copied to the Apple TV ^1 because they cannot be played on this Apple TV.";
"4309.166" = "The game ^0 was not copied to the Apple TV ^1 because it cannot be played on this Apple TV.";
"4309.167" = "Some of the games in your iTunes library were not copied to the Apple TV ^1 because you are not authorized to play them on this computer.";
"4309.168" = "Some of the games in your iTunes library, including the game ^0, were not copied to the Apple TV ^1 because you are not authorized to play them on this computer.";
"4309.169" = "The game ^0 was not copied to the Apple TV ^1 because you are not authorized to play it on this computer.";
"4309.170" = "iTunes could not sync the game ^1 to the Apple TV ^2 because there is not enough free space on the Apple TV.";
"4309.171" = "iTunes could not sync the game ^1 to the Apple TV ^2 because the game is corrupt and could not be read.";
"4309.172" = "iTunes could not sync the game ^1 to the Apple TV ^2 because the game could not be found.";
"4309.173" = "iTunes could not sync the game ^1 to the Apple TV ^2 because an error occurred (^3).";
"4309.174" = "iTunes could not sync the game ^1 to the Apple TV ^2 because an error occurred. ";

Good find, Kerio!

izzle22 · Mar 5, 2007

daneoni said:
459.44MB despite being in coverflow mode.

Repaired permissions?

Yeah when I repaired permissions it went back down and when I scroll again it goes back up to 800mb of use. No big deal considering I have 3gb of ram but still it drives me nutz using so much ram.

DMann · Mar 5, 2007

iTunes and Memory

izzle22 said:
Still using about 800mb on my system.

Is that 'Real Memory' or 'Virtual Memory' using 800mb? I can barely reach 54mb usage on an iMac c2d.

Peace · Mar 5, 2007

ClaphamChris said:
Same here on my iMac (20" CD, 1.5GB RAM).

And, at this early stage, not eating anywhere near as much RAM. Run through all my albums in Coverflow - used to be a bit spiky and RAM usage would go to 750-800MB. Now smooth as butter and only(!) using 468MB. Still hefty, but an appreciated step in the right direction.

Chris

izzle22 said:
Still using about 800mb on my system.

daneoni said:
459.44MB despite being in coverflow mode.

Repaired permissions?

Are you guys talking about iTunes or OSX ? Virtual or real memory?

iTunes is only using 90 megs on my system.

failsafe1 · Mar 5, 2007

Interesting that QT and iTunes are almost the same version. Wonder if they will turn into one piece of software? Doubt it but it is interesting to me.

BobbyDigital · Mar 5, 2007

matticus008 said:
Smart playlist? Add all of your jazz artists to it or use the jazz genre tag. As for finding it in the list, having it under each artist would make the library even longer to scroll through, which seems like a waste of space and time. If you type "armstrong" into the search bar, it will automatically find all his solo work and also any duets, trios, quartets, and what have you.

What you say is true, and I will definitely try using more smart playlists... but it seems like there should be a more elegant solution. I understand the library would be longer, but in my example... the artists I listed currently take up 6 separate artist fields, when they should only take up 3, with multiple artist tags. I'd be willing to trade a longer library list in order to find what songs I want under each artist's name.

ClaphamChris · Mar 5, 2007

izzle22 said:
Yeah when I repaired permissions it went back down and when I scroll again it goes back up to 800mb of use. No big deal considering I have 3gb of ram but still it drives me nutz using so much ram.

I've repaired permissions, had another spin through in full screen Coverflow and it's sitting there now with Coverflow in-window and RAM usage down to 293MB now.

Clearly something's different in how iTunes is handling the cover art - hope you find the same experience somehow! Agree with you completely. Love iTunes, but hell, 800MB of RAM to play a bit of music is a heck of a lot.

mopar003 · Mar 5, 2007

iTunes Artwork

ChrisA said:
But only if both

1) The album is available on the iTunes music store and,
2) you have an account on the iTune store

I have many albums that are not available on iTunes store. For those I've found many on Amazon or some other on-line retailer of physical CDs. Worst case is that I had to scan the CD insert.

Or you can go to http://www.allcdcovers.com. Nice high quality for printing, fits great for iTunes as well. Needs to use Firefox though.

matticus008 · Mar 5, 2007

izzle22 said:
Yeah when I repaired permissions it went back down and when I scroll again it goes back up to 800mb of use. No big deal considering I have 3gb of ram but still it drives me nutz using so much ram.

If you've got the RAM, then it's going to use it. Isn't that the point of having 3GB? The only problem is if iTunes doesn't give it up when something else has a higher priority.

ClaphamChris · Mar 5, 2007

Peace said:
Are you guys talking about iTunes or OSX ? Virtual or real memory?

iTunes is only using 90 megs on my system.

iTunes, real memory. Was using up to 1.7GB of virtual memory previously.

Now idling along with Ray Charles at 293MB real RAM, 537MB VM.

Makes me happy anyhow!

And matticus 008 - see what you're saying. But looks to me like iTunes is requesting less resource while doing a better job. That's all I mean. Used to frustrate me to watch the beachball as I tried to slip back into Word while a 'pretty MP3 player' wsa sucking 800MB of RAM. Looks like it may be a much better compromise now.

matticus008 · Mar 5, 2007

BobbyDigital said:
What you say is true, and I will definitely try using more smart playlists... but it seems like there should be a more elegant solution. I understand the library would be longer, but in my example... the artists I listed currently take up 6 separate artist fields, when they should only take up 3, with multiple artist tags. I'd be willing to trade a longer library list in order to find what songs I want under each artist's name.

Hmm. You could always do this manually if that's really what you want. It would be tedious, though.

Copy the songs to your desktop and then drag them back into iTunes. Rename the new copies to a different artist, and then delete the copied files. It'll put that little "!" not found icon in front of them, and just update the location to the original file. Now you have two entries, one labeled for each artist, pointing to the same file.

Peace · Mar 5, 2007

ClaphamChris said:
iTunes, real memory. Was using up to 1.7GB of virtual memory previously.

Now idling along with Ray Charles at 293MB real RAM, 537MB VM.

Makes me happy anyhow!

GAWD..no wonder..I looked at your profile to see what puter you're using.

R U using the Pismo?

Or an Intel machine ?

daneoni · Mar 5, 2007

Peace said:
Are you guys talking about iTunes or OSX ? Virtual or real memory?

iTunes is only using 90 megs on my system.

I was talking iTunes virtual, real ram is half that give or take

izzle22 · Mar 5, 2007

Peace said:
Are you guys talking about iTunes or OSX ? Virtual or real memory?

iTunes is only using 90 megs on my system.

It says inactive memory so I'm not sure is that virtual? Wired-254mb, Active-125mb, Inactive-834mb, Free-1.81gb

DMann · Mar 5, 2007

RAM usage

matticus008 said:
If you've got the RAM, then it's going to use it. Isn't that the point of having 3GB? The only problem is if iTunes doesn't give it up when something else has a higher priority.

Yeah, but 800mb? I've got 2G RAM, and still using only 54mb....

mopar003 · Mar 5, 2007

CoverFlow

I have yet to see coverFlow work on my mac! Figured this might ahve fixed whatever problem I have, but no. Anyone have any ideas why CoverFlow will not work? All files have artwork, but all I get is black. Help!

DMann · Mar 5, 2007

Pismo

Peace said:
GAWD..no wonder..I looked at your profile to see what puter you're using.

R U using the Pismo?

Or an Intel machine ?

That would explain it....

daneoni · Mar 5, 2007

mopar003 said:
I have yet to see coverFlow work on my mac! Figured this might ahve fixed whatever problem I have, but no. Anyone have any ideas why CoverFlow will not work? All files have artwork, but all I get is black. Help!

Does your video card support Core Image?

matticus008 · Mar 5, 2007

DMann said:
Yeah, but 800mb? I've got 2G RAM, and still using only 54mb....

Are you running in Cover Flow and scrolling through a library of several thousand songs? Each album cover is somewhere around 700KB-1MB, so if you have a few hundred albums or more, it's going to eat a good chunk of RAM if there's free RAM available to it.

iTunes stays relatively small if you stay out of CoverFlow mode (73MB for me).

izzle22 · Mar 5, 2007

matticus008 said:
Are you running in Cover Flow and scrolling through a library of several thousand songs? Each album cover is somewhere around 700KB-1MB, so if you have a few hundred albums or more, it's going to eat a good chunk of RAM if there's free RAM available to it.

iTunes stays relatively small if you stay out of CoverFlow mode (73MB for me).

I have 1932 albums if that makes a difference.

ClaphamChris · Mar 5, 2007

DMann said:
That would explain it....

Oops - my profile brought the memories flooding back! Hadn't updated it, sorry. Intel iMac, not my lovely former G3 iBook.

Like I say, just looks like more bang for less RAM, which has gotta be a good thing!

ppnkg · Mar 5, 2007

downloaded, installed, everything looks ok. Maybe 10.4.9 is coming tomorrow then?

DMann · Mar 5, 2007

Albums

izzle22 said:
I have 1932 albums if that makes a difference.

I've got 9,472, yet still, only 54-67mb get used while scrolling Coverflow in full screen mode, and Visualizer as well

izzle22 · Mar 5, 2007

DMann said:
I've got 9,472, yet still, only 54-67mb get used while scrolling Coverflow in full screen mode, and Visualizer as well

You have 9,472 albums or songs and are they full albums?

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