Sure. Keep thinking that. I'm positive the software developers, who just went through the PPC-X86 conversion process would be delighted to do it again in reverse. Whatever.
How do they have to do it in reverse? They already support PowerPC.
Sure. Keep thinking that. I'm positive the software developers, who just went through the PPC-X86 conversion process would be delighted to do it again in reverse. Whatever.
Unless you're writing machine level code, why would you even care?!? That's just taking a position for the sake of arguing. The desired end result we're all looking for is better performance, usability, rapid improvments in speed and cost. The transition to Intel has facilitated all of those desired end results, so your position of how we get there is irrelevant.
I disagree, they are not locked into Intel, but why switch when it is making them so much money? That is what is allowing people to feel comfortable with switching, which is making them more money, and is a business, which means they want to make money. Its what is allowing them to increase their marketshare, which makes them more money. Simple business.
If Apple and P.A. Semiconductor designed a chip that was more powerful and less expensive, etc...
Compilers do not hide the underlying architecture. A better architecture is more important than 5 years ago, because CPUs are no longer on a continuous single-thread speed race. When every core needs a complex instruction decoder or out-of-order-execution units in order to run at a decent speed, you start looking at more efficient silicon.
Apples move to Intel was contrary to these forces. What intel had was a more efficient factory and the exact products Apple needed, exactly when IBM and Freescale didn't have them. But Intel still makes cruddy widgets, and their advantages are fleeting.
As a boutique chip manufacturer, P A Semi's p ...
It isn't an issue of switching. They can continue to sell both. Running Windows isn't a core feature of a Mac, and Apple never intends it to be. How many ads have you seen where Mac points out to PC that he can run Vista too?
So, are you saying that you think laptops would be faster now in PowerPC ?
Good luck with that. Not that it can't be done, but Apple is in the business of making consumer devices and not processors. If they think they'll be able to beat the big players out there, then go for it. IMHO, this deal screams of Apples arrogance getting in the way of sense.
It seems like a lot of you are in panic mode right now. Do you really think that after 1-2 year transition, Apple would move any part of their line back to PPC?
Seriously, think about it... the time and effort that would go into that.
Most likely, these are going to make their ways into future products... maybe iPhones, touches and regular iPods.
Relax...
I just love how Apple keeps the whole industry on their toes, if you know what I mean. There's no telling what they'll so next.
So....Apple just bought Steve Wozniak MkII and his personal team of uber-talented designers.
I think they are planning to build something VERY SECRET and very complicated and TRULY UNIQUE that CANNOT be 'contracted out' to a third-party contractor...
Given that the 'Apple Mac' lead directly from such a secret fusion of home-grown H/W and S/W we can only deduct that *something* equally phenomenal needs 'the same magic mix' for a 2010 release time frame...
This is a very interesting day...
To those fighting about PPC versus Intel.
IBM is up to G6 and is playing with 6 Ghz systems, not sure if this company Apple purchased is stuck with G4 architecture or not. But that aside .....
We do not know how well a 8-core PPC based system would run in comparison to a Intel 8-core system.
I think it is a bit early for this fight, don't you think?
Hard to evaluate this maneuver. The idea of Apple buying a chip manufacturer isn't a clear win by any means - they don't have a great deal of institutional experience fabricating microprocessors and Apple's last attempt in the chip business over a decade ago didn't go well at all.
IMHO, this is a bad move on Apples part. Even if they wanted to use this companies chips, it didn't make much sense to buy them. Apple makes it's money on the combination of many parts. Why do they need (or want to) control something like the processor?=
Aren't you the same guy that said, "If they think they'll be able to beat the big players out there, then go for it. IMHO, this screams of Apples arrogance...", back when they first announced the iPhone? Just kidding...
But seriously, you sound like one of those guys saying Apple is crazy for getting in the phone business.
LOL.
For my part, I don't want to go back to PPC for Macs.... Intel (for Windows specific apps) and OS X (for all the rest) is pretty much the perfect combination for me... right now.
...Intel for their Mac so they can run Windows. But eventually, they'll get used to OS X and will only use OS X applications and then, they can finally get rid of their Windows needs and habits.... And then, Steeve shall rule!
Mouhahahahaha!!!!
Sure. Keep thinking that. I'm positive the software developers, who just went through the PPC-X86 conversion process would be delighted to do it again in reverse. Whatever.
Apple has not publically detailed its plans for the acquisition, but may speak on the issue during an earnings cal scheduled for today (April 23). P.A. Semi customers were told the acquiring company was not interested in the startup's products or road map, but is buying the company for its intellectual property and engineering talent.