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3G iPhone in May, Another Device at WWDC?

londondude said:
I think the new product will be the mac book mini. a laptop the size of a book when closed (normal paperback one).
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Oh an interesting idea: the keyboard to be also touch screen so buttons can change for varying applications and the mouse can be used across the keyboard in some manner (Maybe with 2 fingers across the keys wont activate them and move the mouse).

Im exciting myself with a product that doesnt exist.
 
Not so Complex

I think that people are making way too big a deal out of this whole "OMFG!!! The iPhone's are out of stock!!!1!!!" scenario. Trust me, I'm frickin' DYING for the 3G iPhone just like the next guy. My trusty razr broke a week ago and i don't want to resign until the new product comes out.

But let's all think this one out. When Apple suddenly dropped the price on the iPhone way back in September, utter outrage ensued. How do you think customers who would buy the iPhone, let's say, a week prior to the announcement of the newer model feel? Not so good, right? So isn't it possible that apple learned a lesson and has decided to cut-off the sale date of the old model at around 30 days prior to the release of the new model? Now this isn't necessarily apple being outrageously kind; isn't their a 30 day return policy on those iPhones?? It all seems to match-up to me...
 
Leo74 said:
Let's not all forget that, due to FCC filing deadlines, Apple had to announce the iPhone way ahead of its release last year. As I understand, FCC filings for product updates demand less time and can also be cloaked to a point. So, my guess (and that's all it is) is:
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Thats already been debunked hundreds of time will people search the front page news and QUIT ***** MENTIONING IT.
 
No tablet please!

If you can't fit it in your pocket and it doesn't have a full sized keyboard, it doesn't make any sense. OK, ok, sure some people who spend their time here will say how it is perfect and necessary, and they'll buy one, but really, it's a tiny market share, because from either end, what you have to gain is nowhere near as much as you have to lose. The reason is that the pocket size is a huge threshold -- if you're going to carry something to carry stuff in, then why not make it carry something really useful. And likewise the keyboard is a huge threshold -- if you cut off a keyboard, you're losing massive functionality, so why not go ahead and squeeze it down to pocket sized.

I mean really, you'll end up with a device that costs too much, does to little, and still requires you to carry a backpack/briefcase whatever.

So what I'm saying is, yay, iphone release early. BOOOOO if that means apple wasting time, money, and face on a product that will never become widespread.
 
Dangeresque said:
Does anybody else worry that this rapid product introduction cycle will eventually result in far too complex product lineup where it becomes too difficult to distinguish between value added by moving between products? This product sounds great, but what added benefit will it give us that a software update to the iPod Touch / iPhone wouldn't give us?

It just seems like Apple's crowding it's "message" of simplicity by introducing too many specialized products when they could simply continually improve their current offerings.
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No, I see this as Apple expanding. Apple's doing well, they have good reason to start making new products.

Compare the current Apple to Apple of the 90's(as someone else has) is unfair, because 90's Apple was like "Ahh, we're not going to well, lets get some new stuff out the door, and not fix our main focus" but 2008 Apple is "Hey our main computer and iPods are selling great, lets push phones, new iPods(more like internet tablets), new laptop markets, etc
 
I'm still sticking my belief that the iPhone 3G gets announced at WWDC, and goes on sale June 27th.

IF the 3G iPhone would get released this month, it would probably be released on the 30th, because two weeks from yesterday (the day iPhones stopped selling) is the 24th, and the 30th is the only Friday left in the month after that. This will avoid returns of iPhones under the 14-day return policy.

Also, the SDK is still in a lot of flux and the 2.0 firmware and AppStore wouldn't be available until the end of June. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if the App Store launches after the Firmware 2.0 launch (to give all devs time on the final 2.0 firmware before launch).
 
Tallest Skil said:
It's called the MacBook Air. Perhaps you've heard of it.

"But it's not an UMPC!!!"

Too bad, that's what you're getting. anything "new" at WWDC will be the long-awaited, never-going-to-happen MacTablet.
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That, or a hundred times more plausibly, perhaps MacBook Pro / BR Mac Pro options, right on time.
 
dontmatter said:
If you can't fit it in your pocket and it doesn't have a full sized keyboard, it doesn't make any sense. OK, ok, sure some people who spend their time here will say how it is perfect and necessary, and they'll buy one, but really, it's a tiny market share,
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No, no, no. The Asus EEE is selling so well right now there are more competing products being announced every day, despite not fitting in a pocket and not having a full-sized keyboard. Stores can't keep them in stock.
 
alFR said:
There will be no "slightly larger than an iPhone tablet" - anyone else remember how Jobs killed the Newton?.
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yes, and people like to compare Apple in 97(right as Jobs was coming back) to Apple now...there not fair comparisons.


As for a Mac PDA/Tablet, it wouldn't be a PDA, in the old sense. PDAs are dying. They are being replaced by things like the Nokia Internet Tablets, iPod Touch and smartphones.

I could see a "big iPod touch" type of device, but I'm not waiting on it. iPod touch/iPhone are great for portable stuff(for the Apple realm of stuff)...I'd like a EEE PC by Apple, but I can't see Apple doing that.
 
IMHO I think the 3g iPhone will be announced in May and will take preorders. I think shipping will start sometime near WWDC.
 
swarmster said:
Regarding their exclusivity contract: do Apple stores qualify as competition? As long as there isn't another version specific to another carrier, isn't it still exclusive? Also, I wouldn't put it past Steve to have sold AT&T on 5 years exclusivity for the "iPhone", but then neglect to mention or promise anything about the "iPhone 2". The new version may not be exclusive at all.
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A non exclusive is possible, but why lose the relationship and revenue sharing when AT&T is still the only 3G GSM game in town, really.

Also I don't think anyone is able to gyp AT&T on something like that. Yes Jobs is a pretty crazy businessman and AT&T's business ideology and practices are ancient, but they do have lawyers that can comprehend clauses. Selling away exclusivity to all future iterations of their iPhone would be the *much* more unusual possibility of that mysterious contract. None of the phone manufacturers do that; Apple would be last of them all to sign away their potential to a telco.
 
Enough of this tablet talk, please. There will never be a dedicated Apple tablet PC for one simple reason: The iPhone IS their tablet. They've described iPhone as a new computing platform, they're allowing third party developers to make software for it, and there's a $100 million fund to develop new things for it.

There isn't going to be a MacTablet, just deal with it.
 
probably said:
A non exclusive is possible, but why lose the relationship and revenue sharing when AT&T is still the only 3G GSM game in town, really.
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They're not. Pretty much everyone is competing in the mobile broadband space but tmobile right now, and they're launching their 3g network very soon.
 
swarmster said:
Also, I wouldn't put it past Steve to have sold AT&T on 5 years exclusivity for the "iPhone", but then neglect to mention or promise anything about the "iPhone 2". The new version may not be exclusive at all.
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I assure you AT&T has very clever, very expensive lawyers who would never allow that to happen. Considering the risk they took launching the iPhone (with profit-sharing, etc), I'll wager the contract is airtight.
 
zap2 said:
No, I see this as Apple expanding. Apple's doing well, they have good reason to start making new products.

Compare the current Apple to Apple of the 90's(as someone else has) is unfair, because 90's Apple was like "Ahh, we're not going to well, lets get some new stuff out the door, and not fix our main focus" but 2008 Apple is "Hey our main computer and iPods are selling great, lets push phones, new iPods(more like internet tablets), new laptop markets, etc
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I guess a relevant follow-up question is if it really makes sense for apple to enter the tablet market, then. I mean, the rumor doesn't really specify a tablet in particular, but if it were a tablet, is that market really attractive enough for apple to enter into, especially considering how "untraditional" of an approach apple is rumored to be taking with this device?
 
infowarfare said:
Ok, in case you all missed my post on another thread around here, this is what's happening at WWDC, but first, a disclaimer:

In no way am I affiliated with or employed by Apple internally and anything I post should be taken as pure speculation on my part. ;)

1. Updated iPhone with 2.0 will be released before the WWDC. It wll NOT have GPS or Video camera but will have increased storage size (16GB and 32GB) and 3G of course. No special event is necessary for this.

2. A new product WILL be introduced at WWDC much bigger than the iPhone with a 13 inch screen and it will be known as the Macbook Touch:

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As I stated in a previous thread, I did not create this image, it was found as an upcoming ad for WWDC and in no way do I have knowledge of or privilege to inside information at Apple (just in case anyone gets touchy about all of this.)
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Geez. That is such an obvious PhotoFantasty job. The Apple logo isn't even centered to the "WWDC"
 
heavensblade23 said:
They're not. Pretty much everyone is competing in the mobile broadband space but tmobile right now, and they're launching their 3g network very soon.
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TMobile's network is WAAAAY behind AT&T's (it only recently launched, and in NYC only), and they are the only other GSM carrier in the US.
 
Ok, in case you all missed my post on another thread around here, this is what's happening at WWDC, but first, a disclaimer:

In no way am I affiliated with or employed by Apple internally and anything I post should be taken as pure speculation on my part. ;)

1. Updated iPhone with 2.0 will be released before the WWDC. It wll NOT have GPS or Video camera but will have increased storage size (16GB and 32GB) and 3G of course. No special event is necessary for this.

2. A new product WILL be introduced at WWDC much bigger than the iPhone with a 12 inch screen and it will be known as the Macbook Touch:

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As I stated in a previous thread, I did not create this image, it was found as an upcoming ad for WWDC and in no way do I have knowledge of or privilege to inside information at Apple (just in case anyone gets touchy about all of this.)
 
isnt the flagship Boston store opening this week? could that be part of this plan? it does seem too soon though for software version 2 to be ready.
 
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