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New 3G Strings in iPhone SDK Beta 6
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Don't forget that your call is also a data connection. Are you sure that they don't use 3G for voice data too? I don't know that they do, but it wouldn't surprise me a bit.
3g is a data connection so it doesn't give you better call quality. When you switch 3g on/off it does reset the phones connection to the network, so this thread rumor is true, and for me is nothing new, just par for the course with 3g.
What i find a bit strange is that for me to turn off 3g on my SEw880 its squirilled away in the menu, so i cant see why you'd be in there during a call.......unlessis just covering itself from people complaining about dropped calls.......or the 3g on/off is going to be put somewhere very accessable?
Oh well, how many days is it now!
It does look like 3G on/off is going to be fairly easily accessible - we've already seen the leaked settings screenshots with the 3G on/off option, so it doesn't look to be really buried anywhere.
It does seem good that Apple is making it fairly easy though - when I briefly owned my AT&T Tilt, one of the big things I noticed on the forums was people looking for hacks to give them control to turn off the 3G to extend battery life, but it wasn't something that could easily be done by default otherwise.
WCDMA 3G (what will be used on the iPhone) does carry voice and data. It can even do both at the same time (unlike most EDGE devices, which will suspend data sessions during voice calls.)
EV-DO (used by Verizon, Sprint PCS) is data-only and operates as an overlay to a 1xRTT voice (and slower data) network.
EV-DO (used by Verizon, Sprint PCS) is data-only and operates as an overlay to a 1xRTT voice (and slower data) network.
The iPhone Patent Application has been found! (#20080055269)
You can view the text of the application by clicking the link above. If you want to see all of the diagrams you will need to buy a copy from the patent office ($6.00 USD)
Figure 1B (Sheet 2 of 302) clearly shows a GPS module, a front-facing "Optical Sensor" a Video Conferencing Application, a Blogging Application, and an Instant Messaging Module (among several other interesting items)
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You can view the text of the application by clicking the link above. If you want to see all of the diagrams you will need to buy a copy from the patent office ($6.00 USD)
Figure 1B (Sheet 2 of 302) clearly shows a GPS module, a front-facing "Optical Sensor" a Video Conferencing Application, a Blogging Application, and an Instant Messaging Module (among several other interesting items)
Image Link #1 (Not sure if this will work)
Image Link #2
The iPhone Patent Application has been found! (#20080055269)
You can view the text of the application by clicking the link above. If you want to see all of the diagrams you will need to buy a copy from the patent office ($6.00 USD)
Figure 1B (Sheet 2 of 302) clearly shows a GPS module, a front-facing "Optical Sensor" a Video Conferencing Application, a Blogging Application, and an Instant Messaging Module (among several other interesting items)
Insanely awesome, and Monday will soon be here ..........
I think there is a reason for alerting the switch.
Also you can not get disconncted by accident when talking since touch turns off when it sences it at your ear.
Also you can not get disconncted by accident when talking since touch turns off when it sences it at your ear.
I can see all the images on my laptop, using the free TIFF viewer I downloaded long ago for viewing patent apps at the USPTO.
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Ironically, Apple's own patent viewer: http://www.apple.com/downloads/macosx/math_science/patentdownloader.html
Download the app, install and run it. Select the US icon, then search for published patent (not issued patent) number 20080055269.
Download the app, install and run it. Select the US icon, then search for published patent (not issued patent) number 20080055269.
There's No 3G Setting in 2.0 Beta 6
I'm really confused about the 3G rumors relating to iPhone 2.0 Beta 6. (5A308).
I'm a member of the iPhone OS Development Program & have been running each beta 2-6.
I installed 6 within 1 hour of it's release.
THERE IS NO PLACE ANYWHERE IN IPHONE OS 2.0 BETA 6 BUILD 5A308 THAT SAYS OR EVEN HINTS TO 3G.
This rumor was started by a laughing guy, a mouse and PhotoShop.
Don't believe me? Check out the attachment screenshots posted.
Location Services is the only immediately new visible option added for Geotagging in 2.0 Beta 6.
OPEN CLARIFICATION: Remember that iPhone 2.0 Beta Firmware is said to be intended for current iphones, not for or only for second generation / 3G iPhones.
I'm really confused about the 3G rumors relating to iPhone 2.0 Beta 6. (5A308).
I'm a member of the iPhone OS Development Program & have been running each beta 2-6.
I installed 6 within 1 hour of it's release.
THERE IS NO PLACE ANYWHERE IN IPHONE OS 2.0 BETA 6 BUILD 5A308 THAT SAYS OR EVEN HINTS TO 3G.
This rumor was started by a laughing guy, a mouse and PhotoShop.
Don't believe me? Check out the attachment screenshots posted.
Location Services is the only immediately new visible option added for Geotagging in 2.0 Beta 6.
OPEN CLARIFICATION: Remember that iPhone 2.0 Beta Firmware is said to be intended for current iphones, not for or only for second generation / 3G iPhones.
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Have you considered that the 3G settings only show up when running on an iPhone with 3G hardware? Either way, this is about strings found in the firmware, not necessarily anything that's going to show up in a screenshot yet.
It's hardly relevant anyway; every other sign points to 3G in the new iPhone. We've already seen companies announcing they will be offering the iPhone, including ones that are 3G-only networks.
Do you honestly believe Apple is going to introduce a new iPhone which will still be EDGE-only?
-Zadillo
I never said anything of that regard at all; The next generation iPhone has openly been referred to as the 3G iPhone by Executives involved.
BUT; there's a big difference between the iPhone 2.0 Software in Beta now, which will be released for the first generation iphones that run on current hardware configurations vs. the firmware which the 3G will have loaded on it, which isn't in any open Beta whatsoever.
Being that no one can get an accurate picture of the unit, I highly doubt that the screenshots showing the 3G setting are actually from a 3G iPhone.
I see; so you're just talking about the screenshots; that's a fair point.
What struck me as odd is that you said you were confused about the 3G rumors relating to the iPhone 2.0 firmware beta 6, because it doesn't seem like there is anything that confusing about it - people have already found and identified the clear 3G references in strings in this firmware.
-Zadillo
For what it's worth, Sprint has said they will be joining the other carriers in offering prorated early termination fees (i.e. where the closer you are to the end of your contract, the less you will have to pay in early termination fees). I don't think they've officially announced when they will start this yet, but I think it's supposed to be soon. It could mean that if you do decide to break your Sprint contract early, you might not have to pay the full price.
-Zadillo
There are other phones that have this problem; check the forums for the 3G AT&T Tilt, for example. Many people report experiencing dropped call problems, and the culprit seems to be switching from 3G to EDGE-only coverage.
You said that most other 3G iPhones can do this perfectly well without dropping a call connection, but I've heard this is a common issue (at least perhaps in the US), since they all experience that brief data interruption when switching bandwidth from EDGE to 3G and back.
-Zadillo
I can handoff from 3G->2G voice without a problem on my phone (Motorola Q9h). I can handoff from 3G->2G data as well, but this is to be expected: data sessions can be interrupted.
3G could / should provide somewhat better voice quality: occasional clicking/beeping noises while making a call while in motion should go away (due to faster handoffs) and interruptions in signal should be less noticeable, since the phone can receive signals from multiple cells at once. AT&T often uses lower-bandwidth codecs on GSM phones, but the additional bandwidth should make it more likely that the higher-bandwidth codecs of GSM are used, if not the higher-quality wideband codecs that are supported with 3g.
I have been using 3G since November 2006. For the first month or two, calls would often drop if they were started in 3G, and the phone would almost always switch to 2G if there was 1-2 bars of 3G signal. Nothing changed on my phone, so it seems like the network was improved.
These strings probably mean that disabling/enabling 3G will reset the radio, which will end an active call. This is how it works on the other 3G phones I have used; switching the mode between GSM/EDGE only, GSM/3G, or 3G only has always resulted in a temporary loss of all connectivity for a few seconds.
3G could / should provide somewhat better voice quality: occasional clicking/beeping noises while making a call while in motion should go away (due to faster handoffs) and interruptions in signal should be less noticeable, since the phone can receive signals from multiple cells at once. AT&T often uses lower-bandwidth codecs on GSM phones, but the additional bandwidth should make it more likely that the higher-bandwidth codecs of GSM are used, if not the higher-quality wideband codecs that are supported with 3g.
I have been using 3G since November 2006. For the first month or two, calls would often drop if they were started in 3G, and the phone would almost always switch to 2G if there was 1-2 bars of 3G signal. Nothing changed on my phone, so it seems like the network was improved.
These strings probably mean that disabling/enabling 3G will reset the radio, which will end an active call. This is how it works on the other 3G phones I have used; switching the mode between GSM/EDGE only, GSM/3G, or 3G only has always resulted in a temporary loss of all connectivity for a few seconds.
Oh goodness no, I need the 3G for normal use
It is WHY I am getting the new iPhone. I need 3G service in the city when I can't get to a WiFi area
My edge is just ridiculously slow.
I kind of think that's his suggestion; that 3G should only be used when required, and fall back to EDGE for less intensive things (i.e. checking for new mail, etc.). I've seen other people suggest that as well (use 3G for web browsing, youtube, etc. but otherwise fall back to EDGE to conserve power).
-Zadillo