So are all MBP owners with the 8600m GT cards screwed?

LOL, wasn't it you who said that it looked like the only model affected was the 2.2ghz 128mb vram?

jjahshik32 said:

Yup, and now I got bit by the snake on my crotch~!

Ebay it will go~

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So you are going to go through the hassle of selling a perfectly fine laptop because an article claims that the GPU model in your laptop may be defective?

And there goes *another* Mac from you this year...

not really surprised, I mean come on the 8600GT is hotter than the 8800M GTX... ^^

i have a 2.2Ghz MBP with 8600GT 128mb vram. I haven't found anything wrong with my baby. What are the symptoms of a defective card?

bov said:

i have a 2.2Ghz MBP with 8600GT 128mb vram. I haven't found anything wrong with my baby. What are the symptoms of a defective card?

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Same here, and I had it for slightly more than a year now. No problems at all.

Surely if nvidia have acknowledged that all the GPU's are fauly, they, or apple will cover that particular issue above and beyond the usualy warranty (as it's now a known, sold faulty issue). Like when they recalled all batteries of a certain batch.
I imagine that if aple of nvidia don't fix this for you, if/when your GPU dies, regardless of how long after the warranty it dies, they would be in all sorts of class actions trouble.

jjahshik32 said:

Since its been official that all 8600m GT cards are defective that we can only prolong the gpu failing..:

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Can you please give us your source? I thought that so far NVIDIA didn't reveal which GPUs are effected and only said "older GPUs".

jjahshik32 said:

Also if it were "may be defective" I wouldnt sell it but.. when it IS defective yes.. something inside me keeps telling me since last week to sell, sell, sell before everyone else finds out and the mbp with the nvidia gpu are not desired anymore or prices drop dramatically.

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Uhhh, did Nvidia or Apple confirm that the 8600gt in your lappy is defective? Until it is official, it is just a rumor and nothing else!

actually nvidia confirmed it yesterday, and as far as I understood it, its the latest revisions of the 8600GTs who are faulty, not the old 128mb ones, if I understood it right.

Either way I find it surprising that the majority of the MBP never found it weird that the gpu was so hot, specially when it isnt really a high performing card, not even the 8800M gtx gets as hot as the 8600GTs found in the MBPs.

link to news; http://www.theinquirer.net/gb/inquirer/news/2008/07/09/nvidia-g84-g86-bad

I don't get all of this craziness going around... My MBP is still going strong and I've never had a problem yet. as a matter of fact I'm currently exporting my final cut project as I'm typing this and its cooking hot but shows no signs of a near catastrophic failure. I played the orange box a couple weeks ago for several hours (until i beat it) and it ran strong. now i understand that my MBP doesn't represent the entire population of MBPs and that some people do have problems. I still plan to get apple care before my warranty is up and (knock on wood) if it eventually does die, then apple is going to have to do something (either fix or replace) to make it right. actually this may be a good thing, when/if my MBP dies say two years down the road, then apple just may send me a brand new current gen MBP to replace it.

I'm seriously really happy that ATi finally got its game back together, bought a computer for my brother recently with the 4850 card and its just priceless how well everything worked instantly, and the image quality of ATi cards is just on a completely different level than nvidia.

I really regret that my last 2 purchases had nvidia cards in them, nvidia is the cheapest ******* company I have ever met in the it industry, its not like this is the first time they use cheap methods just to get out there or trump their competitors.

Its like during the 7-series gpu when they released really hot ineffective gpus which gave up image quality for FPS to just compete with ATi's offerings.

Hopefully the next DELL xps lines wont use any nvidia cards, and I hope HP goes to ATi also, and if Apple by a chance of a miracle for once would use a worthy GPU for their high end offerings and put in the HD 3780 Mobility, that would lead to a really worth deserving blow to nvidia which will spend hundreds of millions of dollars to solve this current crisis. They have to learn that cheap tactics like this is are not acceptable by either the OEMs or the customers.

NRose8989 said:

I don't get all of this craziness going around... My MBP is still going strong and I've never had a problem yet. as a matter of fact I'm currently exporting my final cut project as I'm typing this and its cooking hot but shows no signs of a near catastrophic failure. I played the orange box a couple weeks ago for several hours (until i beat it) and it ran strong. now i understand that my MBP doesn't represent the entire population of MBPs and that some people do have problems. I still plan to get apple care before my warranty is up and (knock on wood) if it eventually does die, then apple is going to have to do something (either fix or replace) to make it right. actually this may be a good thing, when/if my MBP dies say two years down the road, then apple just may send me a brand new current gen MBP to replace it.

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Yea, well maybe its because you never knew you had a problem? Mac fanboys constantly defended the sick thermals of the 8600GT in it, I personally feel like I have a frying pan on my lap when I use the ever so "good" MBP.

These are not normal thermals, and I find it utterly amazing how most of you can even accept it or think its normal.

Here's to hoping that Apple will use a 3870 mobility in its next iteration of the MBP and actually for once give us our moneys worth.

Ok so now im worried.

I have only just got my MBP, like a week ago. I play World of warcraft a lot on it. While playing i use Smcfancontrol to keep the temp as low as possible (about 55-60). But occasionally when i play i get graphical issues i.e. ppl dont look like there supposed to but Glow bright white instead. Random objects and animals in the game do the same.

Is this a sign that my GPU maybe on its way out?

You know, you could just put your nVidia chip through a stress test. If nothing unusual happens, you're probably safe to keep it for a while longer. But if you break it, it's at least covered by warranty. On a couple occasions, I've noticed my MBP having completely scrambled graphics. It's hard to say if I am affected by this problem, but it only happens once every couple months so I'm not really concerned.

And didn't nVidia state that this problem could affect *future* products?

So you might only want to use products with intel graphics. Which would mean using something from the MB/MBA line until this problem is resolved, or Apple switches to ATI/AMD.

Commonly, a GPU will produce screen artifacts before dying completely. A game exhibiting flashes, specs or bright colored anomalies is either the result of a driver related issue or (more likely) a defective GPU. Usually the problem worsens as the temp rises, but not always.

And about the GPU temps. Most graphic chips run hot, and are *supposed* to operate fine at such temps (80-100c). This isn't a guess, it's published information. A MBP becoming burning hot under load is not necessarily a symptom of a defective product. The problem is that nVidia's chips are not living up to their specs.

iCries said:

Yea, well maybe its because you never knew you had a problem? Mac fanboys constantly defended the sick thermals of the 8600GT in it, I personally feel like I have a frying pan on my lap when I use the ever so "good" MBP.

These are not normal thermals, and I find it utterly amazing how most of you can even accept it or think its normal.

Here's to hoping that Apple will use a 3870 mobility in its next iteration of the MBP and actually for once give us our moneys worth.

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LOL, you obviously have never tried a MBP with the old ATI GPU in it. Even when idle, the thing feels like the inside of an oven!