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Seagate Momentus 7200.4 500GB HD Now Shipping?
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My XBench Results...
A before and after - the new drive is clearly substantially faster. As I replaced it almost as soon as I received the MBP I can't give any qualitative comparative feedback.
The new drive is quiet, I can hear the heads a little but it's a dull, distant sound, not unpleasant. I can't feel a great deal of vibration although the left side of the laptop where your hand rests when typing is quite warm.
A before and after - the new drive is clearly substantially faster. As I replaced it almost as soon as I received the MBP I can't give any qualitative comparative feedback.
The new drive is quiet, I can hear the heads a little but it's a dull, distant sound, not unpleasant. I can't feel a great deal of vibration although the left side of the laptop where your hand rests when typing is quite warm.
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The drive is very fast, quiet (as quiet as stock drive) and no noticeable vibration on my MacBook, but it died after a week, a replacement drive is coming from Seagate, hopefully it won't die again... 
Interestingly enough, my new 17" UMBP came with a G-Force Seagate drive and sudden-motion sensor enabled.
Strange indeed. I was waiting to get this from Newegg. Other websites like macmall offer you to pre-order the drive.
I think the problem is that the Seagates (I know Western Digitals have them) the new Seagate has its OWN built in motion sensor that conflicts with Apple's.
The key is to disable the Seagate's motion sensor You want Motion sensor on your computer, you just don't want the hard drive manufacterer's version of it which I believe conflicts with Apple's.
Betcha this is why the new Seagates' have been pulled. They are locking up people's computers. Glad I waited.
And to the guy looking for the rubber bumpers -- I don't know about my new Macbook aluminum but every Apple laptop I've worked on has those rubber bumpers that fit around the sides of the screws that go into the hard drive. Like little black tires. If my Macbook gave me any vibration problems, the first thing I would do would be to put some padding alongside the hard drive to dampen vibration. (Never covering the hard drive "breather holes" of course."
This is an old conspiracy theory about Toshibas, which are usually pretty good hard drives, but there were a batch that were in the 12" powerbook a few years ago that had come from the factory with their labels covering their own "breather holes" on the drives -- and they failed at an alarming rate. Trick was to punch a hold in the label yourself where the breather holes were.
zipzoomfly.com has it as a notifyme. No more in stock. I bought one earlier from them and it works fine but when I went to order one for my mini no one had one.
Cheers,
Okay, but then why suspend sales of the NON G-force model? I must have bought mine (non G-force) the day before they all disappeared and I've had no problems with it whatsoever...though I may begin backing it up more than once per week!
New Egg has added the NOTIFY me option yet again (but no stock).
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148374&Tpk=7200.4
I got two of these that are on my partner's and my unibody MBP 15".
No issues so far
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148374&Tpk=7200.4
I got two of these that are on my partner's and my unibody MBP 15".
No issues so far
Just called Seagate right now asking why my replacement drive hasn't shipped (failed 7200.4 discussed in this thread: https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/662085/) and she says it is because they are out of stock!!! They looked for a replacement but have zero inventory of new or refurb to ship out. she couldn't even say when they would have some avail but they will ship it when they get stock.
so this explains why none of the stores have any stock now.
so this explains why none of the stores have any stock now.
This may have been the case with prior MBP models, but my new 17" Unibody MBP shipped with a G-Force Seagate drive.
The drives are in stock over at Dell:
http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/...etail.aspx?c=us&l=en&s=dhs&cs=19&sku=341-8658
They're rebranded as Dell Momentus drives for one reason or another, but there's no doubt that that is the same drive with the G-Sensor.
I'm hesitant to order simply because to the massive stock shortage everywhere else makes me wonder if there is some problem with these drives... I told myself I'd just wait until Newegg had them back in stock, since the longer I wait, the cheaper they'd get as well.
Oh well, everyone go to Dell and buy the drives to remove me of the temptation.
http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/...etail.aspx?c=us&l=en&s=dhs&cs=19&sku=341-8658
They're rebranded as Dell Momentus drives for one reason or another, but there's no doubt that that is the same drive with the G-Sensor.
I'm hesitant to order simply because to the massive stock shortage everywhere else makes me wonder if there is some problem with these drives... I told myself I'd just wait until Newegg had them back in stock, since the longer I wait, the cheaper they'd get as well.
Oh well, everyone go to Dell and buy the drives to remove me of the temptation.
I just chatted online with a Dell representative and they confirmed that it is a Dell HD and has a 1 year warranty.
But what I'm saying is that I'm quite sure Dell doesn't make their own hard drives... And "Momentus" is the line of Seagate's hard drives. While it may be Dell branded and under Dell's warranty, I would be VERY VERY surprised if this wasn't built by Seagate.
This drive might be available again on April 1st. This is based on this site http://www.nowdirect.com/exec/partInfo/part_detail.tsb?prcpart=SGNST9500420AS
I see the point you are making. I would pull the trigger, but would like the longer warranty, even though Seagate has slashed their warranty from 5 to 3 years.
After doing a lot of research over at NotebookReview.com's forums, I reached two conclusions:
1. This hard drive is screaming fast.
2. This hard drive fails way more than it should.
Basically, a number of people had the drive fail on them within two weeks. Obviously it's the first gen product, so it's bound to have some issues, but I decided to back up and reconsider some things.
I actually just decided to order the 320gb 7200rpm Momentus (the best 7200rpm 320gb drive, by most accounts) from Newegg since they're having a two day hard drive sale... $80 for the drive and an external enclosure plus free shipping.
So hopefully, when the time comes that I might want to upgrade again...
1. This will be more stable.
2. There will be larger, faster HD's out.
3. SSDs will reach sane price levels.
Anyhow, this concludes my mini-rant. This thing is getting slapped in a unibody Macbook anyway so I'm not sure what I'm doing in this forum, haha.
1. This hard drive is screaming fast.
2. This hard drive fails way more than it should.
Basically, a number of people had the drive fail on them within two weeks. Obviously it's the first gen product, so it's bound to have some issues, but I decided to back up and reconsider some things.
I actually just decided to order the 320gb 7200rpm Momentus (the best 7200rpm 320gb drive, by most accounts) from Newegg since they're having a two day hard drive sale... $80 for the drive and an external enclosure plus free shipping.
So hopefully, when the time comes that I might want to upgrade again...
1. This will be more stable.
2. There will be larger, faster HD's out.
3. SSDs will reach sane price levels.
Anyhow, this concludes my mini-rant. This thing is getting slapped in a unibody Macbook anyway so I'm not sure what I'm doing in this forum, haha.
Are you saying you purchased the 320GB HD and an enclosure for $80? I can't find this deal in the 2day sale.
Combo Deals for the 320gb Momentus
Use coupon code EMCHDD10 for 10% off any HD ($10 max), thus getting it down to $80.
Use coupon code EMCHDD10 for 10% off any HD ($10 max), thus getting it down to $80.
White MacBook compliant?
I read the whole 14 pages of this thread, I need 500GB and it looks like its here but I have a White MacBook and need to know if it will fit.
I think all reports have been with the MBP guys, vibration seems to be hit and miss but everybody raves about the speed and price. Nobody wants a dud but it can be sent back I suppose.
So, can I use it in my White MacBook? I can get one from OverClockers UK for £103.49 (http://overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=HD-203-SE&tool=3), its the "AS" model so no conflicting with the G-force thing.
...One other thing, there seems to be a lot of chat about the SSD drives. I checked Samsung and they are ~£600 odd for the 256GB drive, how is that going to change in 1yr? I think it'll be a couple of years or a year and a half before anything changes.
I read the whole 14 pages of this thread, I need 500GB and it looks like its here but I have a White MacBook and need to know if it will fit.
I think all reports have been with the MBP guys, vibration seems to be hit and miss but everybody raves about the speed and price. Nobody wants a dud but it can be sent back I suppose.
So, can I use it in my White MacBook? I can get one from OverClockers UK for £103.49 (http://overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=HD-203-SE&tool=3), its the "AS" model so no conflicting with the G-force thing.
...One other thing, there seems to be a lot of chat about the SSD drives. I checked Samsung and they are ~£600 odd for the 256GB drive, how is that going to change in 1yr? I think it'll be a couple of years or a year and a half before anything changes.
On the positive side...
I've had mine installed in my MBP SR 2.2 for over a month now (Seagate Momentus 7200.4 ST9500420AS, note it's the model without the gforce sensor) with no problems whatsoever. I never shut down my MBP and I use it for 11+ hours a day, other than that it's either asleep or torrenting all night.
However, I haven't noticed a substantial jump in speed. This is probably my fault as I only have about 15gb free at any time. I mostly bought the drive to be able to hold my 210gb itunes library (all music mind you). My base install is about 110 gb with all of my office/hobby software, and then I have another 120 gb of movies/etc that gets switched out.
If you can get your hands on the non-gforce model I would do it without hesitation.
Nothing but a positive experience here so far.
Also, I often walk around with my MBP in one hand while it's on and playing music/etc, and I haven't had any problems yet. Of course, now that I've jinxed myself.....
I've had mine installed in my MBP SR 2.2 for over a month now (Seagate Momentus 7200.4 ST9500420AS, note it's the model without the gforce sensor) with no problems whatsoever. I never shut down my MBP and I use it for 11+ hours a day, other than that it's either asleep or torrenting all night.
However, I haven't noticed a substantial jump in speed. This is probably my fault as I only have about 15gb free at any time. I mostly bought the drive to be able to hold my 210gb itunes library (all music mind you). My base install is about 110 gb with all of my office/hobby software, and then I have another 120 gb of movies/etc that gets switched out.
If you can get your hands on the non-gforce model I would do it without hesitation.
Nothing but a positive experience here so far.
Also, I often walk around with my MBP in one hand while it's on and playing music/etc, and I haven't had any problems yet. Of course, now that I've jinxed myself.....