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It only searches that current folder you are in - first what's on the device and then up on the server (of that one folder). And none of the body. There is an IMAP Search app coming out soon that searches all folders and content as well.

Gotcha... that makes sense...... Thanks for clearing that up.
 
Will the fact that there is an iTunes Library API mean that somkeone can build an App with an Alarm clock that uses my Itunes library as an alarm.

Does it mean that somone can build a photoframe app with my music in the background?

Does push alerts mean that Omnifocus can send me a text message when a task is due.

Do any of the API's mean that I will have a To-Do list that syncs with my Mac?
 
It's all good stuff but I can't help feeling a bit 'meh' because it's all stuff the phone ought to be doing already.

I don't understand that attitude. If the features being added are worthwhile and useful then what does it matter whether they "should have been there" before? The bottom line is that we're getting a lot of very useful and cool functionality.
 
Design

I don't understand that attitude. If the features being added are worthwhile and useful then what does it matter whether they "should have been there" before? The bottom line is that we're getting a lot of very useful and cool functionality.

It is about design, and getting it right, and doing so in a way that compliments the entire platform. It isn't about checking off features in a list. That's how bad phones get made. That's how bad everything gets made.

The core software of the iPhone is a triumph. The iPhone 1.0 we had on day 1 is vastly superior to anything else out there today, regardless of the features it was lacking.

If people want features they can go pick up an Instinct. See how that goes for them.
 



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Images from iLounge
iLounge and AppleInsider have posted good screenshot galleries of the new iPhone 3.0 operating system that was seeded to developers yesterday. Other collections include Engadget, Boy Genius Report, and MobileCrunch.

Why does the iPhone say "iPod" in the top left?? Did anybody else notice that? I thought that the iPhone always displays the carrier name...not "iPod"...which would insinuate iPod Touch...

thoughts?
 
There's never been a cut and paste feature on a 100% touch based device before. Apple had only one chance to get it right. (edit - maybe I'm wrong here, maybe that Sprint abomination or the Storm has it, but they'll be relegated to the dustbins of history and are not platforms the way the iPhone is a platform)

There are a lot of simple interactions on a touch device - tap to select, pinch to zoom. But a complex interaction like select, cut, paste, copy - there's an infinite number of ways you could implement this, and many of them are really bad.

Apple doesn't want to try to introduce a new interaction into the touch lexicon, then decide later it was totally inadequate and replace it and cause user confusion.

Think back to all the would-be designers you've heard saying how easy it would be to implement and then gave their own ideas for a design. Some of them were pretty good. Some of them were downright awful. I think what Apple finally came up with here is pretty fantastic.

It comes off as something so easy to use my mom could do it, and she still struggles with the desktop standard of cut and paste - mouse, ctrl-x, ctrl-c, etc.

I'm sure we'll see copycat devices copy this interaction verbatim, just like pinch zoom and other things are permanent fixtures of the touch interface lexicon. That's how good it is.

Good point. After watching the video, I liked how it automatically grabs a block of text from the browser and the way you can move it around or expand it. Apple way seems to have expand the basic cut, copy and paste behavior.
 
Yeah, that's what I don't get either.

Love the iPhone and love the choices that Apple makes and I also love the choices that the iPhone dev team allows me to make.
 
I am running the 3.0 beta as a developer and I can say it's a bit buggy but not unusable. I think some functions are slower than they used to be, for example opening the network preferences where you can disable 3G is slow to load. But overall I find it very usable. I'm looking forward to the official release which will most likely be faster and more efficient.

Sorry if this has been addressed earlier, but is the 3.0 beta being run on an iPhone or desktop emulator? Someone mentioned that it is running on only a desktop emulator, which I believe would be self-defeating as it wouldn't test the iPhone hardware.

EDIT: Never mind, answered my own question. :)
 
Why does the iPhone say "iPod" in the top left?? Did anybody else notice that? I thought that the iPhone always displays the carrier name...not "iPod"...which would insinuate iPod Touch...

thoughts?

someone installed it on an ipod touch in order to not "risk" his iphone OS installation...i think...
 
This Update Is Gonna Be Awesome. I Cant Wait.
But.
I Was Waiting For Another Home Interface. Really. Is Really Annoying!
 
It is about design, and getting it right, and doing so in a way that compliments the entire platform. It isn't about checking off features in a list. That's how bad phones get made. That's how bad everything gets made.

The core software of the iPhone is a triumph. The iPhone 1.0 we had on day 1 is vastly superior to anything else out there today, regardless of the features it was lacking.

If people want features they can go pick up an Instinct. See how that goes for them.

I agree with you 100%. My point was just that new features (properly implimented as they appear to be within the iphone's core software, as you put it) are a very good and welcome thing, regardless of whether or not they "should have been there" before.
 
well i got a copy of 3.0 running on my iphone 3G.... and after a brief assesment

Like mentioned almost everything mentioned in the announcement is in the beta and works. A little buggy, but for a first beta it is doing very good.

Acid 3 test for the iphone safari browser get a 97/100 and to put into perspective the newest (developmental) version of Firefox (3.1 Beta 3) only gets 93/100.
here is the img
Although Safari 4.0 Beta gets 100/100... for mobile platform to be at 97... is just amazing
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App store itself was updated a little bit. Apple adapted Coverflow type viewer when viewing images of application
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Ill post more as i look around (new stuff that hasn't been seen before). If someone wants a particular picture of 3.0 let me know
 
The YouTube demo video seems to have been taken down...

you might want to update the story mentioning that?
 
I hope both. I tend to forget where I put stuff so having it beep would help.

As for being stolen, 1st gen. iPhones would have a hard time. Since they don't have GPS, they have to use the Wi-Fi/cell tower triangulation technique which is still pretty awful in some places. I just did at work, and it says I'm in the next town or 2 over.

So how does this find your iphone/ipod work?
 
Kindly, what makes the cut, copy and paste so different on the iPhone OS that it took so long to implement it? So long that it has become a running joke to its rivals and users?
Who cares how long it took, they said they hadn't found the right implementation.
 
agree

I agree with you 100%. My point was just that new features (properly implimented as they appear to be within the iphone's core software, as you put it) are a very good and welcome thing, regardless of whether or not they "should have been there" before.

Absolutely. And I'm one of those people who use my iPhone as 95% of the time as a mobile computing / internet platform and as a phone maybe 5% of the time. Not having cut and paste was REALLY irritating, but the platform is so good I was willing to wait it out.

I can now say that with 3.0 the iPhone is going to be a really complete and really fantastic mobile computer, even without background tasks. I look forward to developing with the push notifications - I think a lot of the advantages of background tasks can be further emulated by pushing background processing into the cloud.
 
I'd like to see an outbox for SMS or MMS. Often times i'm on the subway and would like to send a few SMS messages and I can't because of no signal. It'd be nice if i could hit send and then when the phone gets a signal it sends them.

Also a cancel send message button would be great. I often forget to see what the spell check did to my message and hit send.
 
it's quite obviously a lie as jailbroken 2G iphones have been able to do MMS for a long time.

This is where I'm confused. Can someone explain to me why MMS won't work on my 1st gen. iPhone? It looks like the hardware can support it, right? Is Apple just lying to us so we go out and buy a 3G?
 
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