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Next Generation iPhone Bezel Revealed?
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I'm all for a physical button to press for the camera. I mean I should be to take a drunken pic of myself and my girlfriend w/out hoping I'm touching the right part of the screen. But do they actually need to ADD a button? Really? Can't just have a settings option to turn the volume control (both up and down) into a camera button when the camera app is running? Do we really need to change volume of anything while taking a picture?
sure hope they DIDNT do that
makes it pretty hard to hold in your pocket and listen to music on it with headphones
ALSO..this new bezel design clearly points to slightly smaller footprint...thats all I am expecting..and a camera button.
If the Camera and video capabilities are being marketed as major features of the new phone, a camera button would make a lot of since, although I agree the volume buttons COULD work
The physical volume and mute buttons are EXTREMELY useful. It's nice when talking to someone who's a little quiet you can reach to the side and turn up the volume. And the mute switch is great, I wish more phones had that. Not only can you easily enable or disable it a quick look at the side tells you if it's muted or not.
The top button can be used for the picture taking or just the current "take picture" softbutton that's on current iphones.
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woops, I thought you meant completely do away with the volume buttons, not repurpose them. Still think just using the top button as a physical button would work fine.
A narrow view.
1. Faster processor -- this is huge.
2. Faster GPU, to work in tandem with the above.
3. Vastly improved camera.
4. More RAM.
5. More flash.
6. Better RF performance.
In any event I'm thinking you are missing one important point here, that is the general desire for a better performing iPhone. A device that totally gets rid of the UI lag. A device that doesn't drag to a crawl everytime an E-Mail comes in.
Like I said Apple only needs to increase performance to make this upgrade worthwhile.
Dave
That isn't how the cell industry works, new models come out every week just so they can be called new. As to Apple explain the last iMac update.
That is where you are taking a very narrow view. Some of the rumored features that are likely true and compelling:
1. Faster processor -- this is huge.
2. Faster GPU, to work in tandem with the above.
3. Vastly improved camera.
4. More RAM.
5. More flash.
6. Better RF performance.
Frankly I think video chat is a long shot. For one thing the networks can't handle it. Second there is zip for demand except from the perv community, it really isn't a space where Apple and AT&T want to play right now.
In any event I'm thinking you are missing one important point here, that is the general desire for a better performing iPhone. A device that totally gets rid of the UI lag. A device that doesn't drag to a crawl everytime an E-Mail comes in.
Like I said Apple only needs to increase performance to make this upgrade worthwhile.
Dave
This makes me think about people complaining about copy/paste not being on the iPhone. I have owned a crap load of phones and had never once used copy/paste on any of them. To me, it wasn't a major downside but some people were flipping out about it. So now that its added, you all better use it.. all the time
i would be more excited about the copy/past functionality if it was implemented well.. i have been using os 3.0 since the second beta and I am not too impressed with the copy/paste. There are so many instances when you are unable to just copy the desired portions of the text (particularly when it is in a table format or similarly formatted in a web page) and i end up with a paragraph when i just wanted a persons shipping address...then I have to paste it into notes and recopy the parts I need.
its a pain in the ass, but still better than no copy/paste.
One problem with Video Chat...
...is who do you pay to use it?
On a computer, video chat is just data. It's free. Data is bundles with the iPhone, so video chat over 3G would be free. Right?
But to the cellphone phone networks, it is one of the "special services" they want to charge a special rate for.
* Voice Conversations
* SMS
* MMS
* 3G Music downloads
* Live TV
* Tethering
and
* Video Chat
Are all supposed to be not just data, but premium services provided by the cellphone network. And the networks want to charge a hefty premium rate for these services.
This is why you can't do Skype calling over 3G, and why the iTunes store did not let you download music except over WiFi.
AT&T seem to have relented on Music Downloads... But as long as video-chat is a premium service, I can see Apple holding-off video chat functionality.
The inevitable end is that all this will become "just data". But don't hold your breath.
C.
...is who do you pay to use it?
On a computer, video chat is just data. It's free. Data is bundles with the iPhone, so video chat over 3G would be free. Right?
But to the cellphone phone networks, it is one of the "special services" they want to charge a special rate for.
* Voice Conversations
* SMS
* MMS
* 3G Music downloads
* Live TV
* Tethering
and
* Video Chat
Are all supposed to be not just data, but premium services provided by the cellphone network. And the networks want to charge a hefty premium rate for these services.
This is why you can't do Skype calling over 3G, and why the iTunes store did not let you download music except over WiFi.
AT&T seem to have relented on Music Downloads... But as long as video-chat is a premium service, I can see Apple holding-off video chat functionality.
The inevitable end is that all this will become "just data". But don't hold your breath.
C.
Antenna
This may not be true, but I vaguely remember hearing a while back that the silver ring on the phones were also used somehow as an antenna. Now that may be way off based, but if I'm not making that up, then that could mean an improvement in one of the antennas.
This may not be true, but I vaguely remember hearing a while back that the silver ring on the phones were also used somehow as an antenna. Now that may be way off based, but if I'm not making that up, then that could mean an improvement in one of the antennas.
What do I think?
As to iPhone I'm not sure if Apple will transition. It doesn't look like it from this posting but that doesn't mean anything. For all we know this could be a screen for a low end device.
From the above you can see that I expect at least two new models for the US market. One is a cheap direct replacement for the current iPhone the other a higher performance device. Even on the higher performance device ( iPhone Pro ) I'd expect similar battery life. Some of that due to the expected hi integration SoC processor from the PA Semi product. Of course we don't know for sure that PA is even focused on iPhone class processors but there is a very good chance. For example if Apple went to 40 nm for the SoC, on a low power process, we might very well break even power wise while effectively doubling performance. Maybe more than double performance. It is all about who they partner with and how tight their relationship with ARM is.
I'm not convinced that Apple will go OLED simply to save a bit of power. The move would have more justification than just that.
Honestly though I wouldn't be surprised if the rumored high speed capable iPhone ( as in 7.2 downloads) won't have a thicker battery to support those connection speeds. Apple can save all sorts of power internally but RF requires a certain amount of power to maintain the SNR, with the faster data rate the iPhone will need to use more transmission power. So more amp hours out of the battery.
Dave
Yes it is very feasable. But it would have to be an improvement over the current screen which is pretty good. I'm not sure where this idea comes from that OLED screens are grossly expensive. They aren't and have some advantages.
As to iPhone I'm not sure if Apple will transition. It doesn't look like it from this posting but that doesn't mean anything. For all we know this could be a screen for a low end device.
Possibly but it isn't a given. For example just about every part of the iPhone's logic board is now available in lower power versions. Even class D audio amps are improved in this respect. Thus for an upgrade to the current iPhone you could end up with a lower power device. If they come out with a low end model that basically duplicates the current iPhone the potential is for modest performance increases and much better battery life.
From the above you can see that I expect at least two new models for the US market. One is a cheap direct replacement for the current iPhone the other a higher performance device. Even on the higher performance device ( iPhone Pro ) I'd expect similar battery life. Some of that due to the expected hi integration SoC processor from the PA Semi product. Of course we don't know for sure that PA is even focused on iPhone class processors but there is a very good chance. For example if Apple went to 40 nm for the SoC, on a low power process, we might very well break even power wise while effectively doubling performance. Maybe more than double performance. It is all about who they partner with and how tight their relationship with ARM is.
While true to an extent batteries are improving every year. As to cell phone electronics that is improvine at a substantial rate too. By that I mean performance per watt. I'm pretty much convinced that Apple could lower the power consumption of an iPhone that is in the same general class as the current one and give it a modest performance boost.
I'm not convinced that Apple will go OLED simply to save a bit of power. The move would have more justification than just that.
Honestly though I wouldn't be surprised if the rumored high speed capable iPhone ( as in 7.2 downloads) won't have a thicker battery to support those connection speeds. Apple can save all sorts of power internally but RF requires a certain amount of power to maintain the SNR, with the faster data rate the iPhone will need to use more transmission power. So more amp hours out of the battery.
Dave
That's NOT for the speaker...
Don't know if this has been posted yet or not, but that part at the top that people are assuming is for the speaker is, I'm almost certain, actually for the SIM card. The way the lighting is makes it look like it's open towards the front, but it's not. Look at your iPhone -- that's right where the SIM card goes.
Don't know if this has been posted yet or not, but that part at the top that people are assuming is for the speaker is, I'm almost certain, actually for the SIM card. The way the lighting is makes it look like it's open towards the front, but it's not. Look at your iPhone -- that's right where the SIM card goes.
or they could use the volume buttons as zoom in and zoom out (only repurpose them for the camera app of course cuz i use them all the time otherwise) and then have a stand alone camera button! That'd be sexy haha
I agree. I have a first gen iPhone, and while I'll appreciate upgrading to 3G and GPS, if I could have only one thing from the next iPhone it would be performance. As a PDA, I want to be able to use it often and easily -- take it out, jot something down, put it away, that kind of thing. Having to wait on applications to load -- hell, even the super simple Notes app has a 5-10 second lag on load -- is really aggravating.
Are you jailbroken or something? My notes app loads instantly. I also turn it off and back on about once a week. But I do agree, we need a performance boost, this device shouldn't be this laggy
there's only a few possible reasons to move the ear piece up.
1. completely for aesthetics.. no reason whatsoever.
2. apple has found that people naturally put their ear on the edge making it a natural place for the hole..
3. to make room for some kind of sensor or a camera
4. to make room for a larger screen
5. they want to make the iphone smaller, so they minimize the black area around the screen
6. they're moving the screen up to leave more room at the bottom. (for more buttons or a click wheel)
a larger screen would be pretty awesome and would have that "wow factor" that everyone could look at the new phone and say "thats freaking cool"
1. completely for aesthetics.. no reason whatsoever.
2. apple has found that people naturally put their ear on the edge making it a natural place for the hole..
3. to make room for some kind of sensor or a camera
4. to make room for a larger screen
5. they want to make the iphone smaller, so they minimize the black area around the screen
6. they're moving the screen up to leave more room at the bottom. (for more buttons or a click wheel)
a larger screen would be pretty awesome and would have that "wow factor" that everyone could look at the new phone and say "thats freaking cool"
Some seem so intent on Video Chat. i really couldn't care less about that to be honest.
I really JUST WANT longer battery life, bigger space, and BETTER CONNECTION to the AT&T network.
Dropped calls continues to be a bad problem for my iPhone
I really JUST WANT longer battery life, bigger space, and BETTER CONNECTION to the AT&T network.
Dropped calls continues to be a bad problem for my iPhone
it blows my mind that there are so many posts about how this thing is going to look..
i could honestly care less about how it looks...im MUCH more concerned with the internals and the actual performance increases we will see with the new hardware....im excited to see it during the first day of wwdc!
i could honestly care less about how it looks...im MUCH more concerned with the internals and the actual performance increases we will see with the new hardware....im excited to see it during the first day of wwdc!
I'm not going to read through the whole thread, but I really don;t think that thing is the speaker. It's the same width as the dock connector. it's just a strange angle and it looks like it might be a reinforcement for the inside of the dock connector. The holes in the flat portion lead me to believe that it is the top where the sensors and things are. We perhaps can't see the speaker hole because it's not that great of a photo.
Just sayin...
Just sayin...