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Wordslinger29

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Original poster
May 27, 2009
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How far are we from seeing Blu-ray quality movies available for download...from iTunes or any other service? I'm wondering what kind of technical limitations are holding it back (hard drive space, internet speeds, etc.). I have Netflix but don't use it often--and trying to get a new release day one requires timing and luck. My local Blockbuster only stocks three or four new releases on Blu-ray, so trying to rent one on the weekend is tough. I'd love to see a company provide Blu-ray quality downloads for rent.
 

djellison

macrumors 68020
Feb 2, 2007
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Pasadena CA
Even HD satllite broadcasts are not as good as BR. We had Ironman from Lovefilm on BR, and there was a problem with the disc. Purely by chance it was also on Sky+'s Anytime service - and so we 'cut' to the Sky+HD version for about 10 minutes, then returned to the BR (scratched by a previous renter or something). The difference was very nearly the same as the difference from VHS to DVD. Astonishing.

I think it will be a VERY long time before we see that quality via the web. HD optical media have as long a life as DVD has had to date at LEAST.
 

Wordslinger29

macrumors member
Original poster
May 27, 2009
56
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That's what I was thinking. I guess at this point 1080p downloads would be more of a niche market than Blu-ray itself.
 

brentsg

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Oct 15, 2008
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For a normal Blu-ray rip with the sound quality reduced to AC3 5.1, you are talking anywhere from 20-27 GB. So you either compromise the video quality or we need a vastly improved infrastructure to deliver that as a download.
 

Andrew Henry

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Mar 4, 2008
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There already are full Bluray downloads available, and they are 25 - 35gb depending on the movie.

Just saying. ;)
 

randy98mtu

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Mar 4, 2009
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What bitrate would you need to get down to the 10 gig range? This is why I am pretty happy with the 720p settings for ATV. They are about 5000 kbps and I'm seeing 3-5 gig files. Seems like a good compromise of quality and file size. I don't care how cheap drives are, at 20-30 gig per movie (even 10), I'm not ready to go to 1080p digital files yet.
 

GreatDrok

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May 1, 2006
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New Zealand
What bitrate would you need to get down to the 10 gig range? This is why I am pretty happy with the 720p settings for ATV. They are about 5000 kbps and I'm seeing 3-5 gig files. Seems like a good compromise of quality and file size. I don't care how cheap drives are, at 20-30 gig per movie (even 10), I'm not ready to go to 1080p digital files yet.

At 5Mbps a 720p encode in h.264 is very high quality. 1080p has about 30% more detail than 720p (1920-1280=640 and 1080-720=360) at the cost of double the number of pixels (1 million for 720, 2 million for 1080) so you would think you would need twice the bit rate to encode it but in reality you should be able to get away with about 8 Mbps. However, this will not be as artefact free as Blu-ray which runs about 30 Mbps but should still be very good.
 
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