You could hardly be more wrong. AMD only owns about 30% of Global Foundries and has the intention to sell that off in the near future. Major shareholder is ATIC (aka Abu Dhabi)
http://www.eetimes.com/news/semi/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=223200132
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Apple Considering Adopting AMD Processors for Upcoming Macs?
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You could hardly be more wrong. AMD only owns about 30% of Global Foundries and has the intention to sell that off in the near future. Major shareholder is ATIC (aka Abu Dhabi)
http://www.eetimes.com/news/semi/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=223200132
I hate AMD. I used to have a Gateway MX6426. It has an AMD Turion 64 mobile single core chip @ 2.2GHz. Not only did that chip suck soo much, it gave off a **** load of heat. It would be idealing at 140F and run at 210F when intensive apps were used. The fan was fine. I appied arctic silver 5 to it. it ran a little cooler... but not much. The integrated ATi graphics would be at 170F whne doing nothing and at 200-215 doing games like NFSU. Its 4200RPM PATA HD and 1Gb RAM also contributed to its slowness. I sold that crap on eBay, and bought a dell Latitude D620. It's Intel Core Duo @ 1.66 is still faster. Yes it is duo core though. With Arctic silver on the D620 it ideals at 90F and under full load 130F. When i prevent the fan, it can peak to 180F. The GMA doesn't go over 110F even under full load. It came with 1Gb Ram and a 40Gb 5400 SATA HD. Wih those specs, and both systems with Xp, my Dell outperformed the gateway. yet the both were from 2006... the dell was January 2006 and the gateway was end of 2006.
My Dell Latitude D620 now has the same 1.66GHz T2300E Core 2 Duo as before, but 3 GB Ram, and a 250GB 7200RPM HD inside. Add Macintosh OS X 10.6.3, it runs seemlesly. I'm typing this on it right now.
My Dell Latitude D620 now has the same 1.66GHz T2300E Core 2 Duo as before, but 3 GB Ram, and a 250GB 7200RPM HD inside. Add Macintosh OS X 10.6.3, it runs seemlesly. I'm typing this on it right now.
The Mac Mini runs mobile CPUs and will remain mobile since they can't just make the screen bigger and boost the form factor as with the iMac. No chance for AMD there.
you guys keep saying that AMD is subpar and run hot and whatever...
obviously Apple will work with AMD, if not buy them out.. and develop new chips exclusively for themselves.. AMD chips can only get better, Apple will do the R&D and take AMD to the next level. You guys are just crazy if you think apple will be happy using the current crop of AMD chips.. they always want something better and strive for the best. they will buy AMD and do it themselves if they have to so they don't have to mess with Intel anymore.
that's the beauty of small companies.. you don't get that with monopolies like Intel..
obviously Apple will work with AMD, if not buy them out.. and develop new chips exclusively for themselves.. AMD chips can only get better, Apple will do the R&D and take AMD to the next level. You guys are just crazy if you think apple will be happy using the current crop of AMD chips.. they always want something better and strive for the best. they will buy AMD and do it themselves if they have to so they don't have to mess with Intel anymore.
that's the beauty of small companies.. you don't get that with monopolies like Intel..
...and Aiden Shaw strikes again.
No, it's not decent enough:
- it contains Windows;
- it looks fugly;
-it uses Atom;
- it's a netbook.
Have you used an iPad yet before babbling? I suggest you do, as the paradigm shift is mindblowing.
HA HA HA... I don't know much about ATOM processors, but I do agree with the windows part. Not sure how they are running WIN 7 on 1gb ram without being fustrating (but maybe it is fustrating). of course, I would like to see if that thing lasts more than 2 years. Seems PC's only have a 2-3 year life span where as Apple has a 5-6 year one.
I have played with an ipad, and like I said in my post - it is the ultimate netbook. in fact more than a netbook. I now have 117 apps from the app store. I am looking for / waiting for 3 more. then when I get my 3G ipad - it will be able to do everything I can on my 2008 macbook (well except video chat - which I rarely do, scan, and edit videos). Other than that everything else is covered. my macbook is going to become my desktop for mass storage, and software that needs a heavier processor for development and video editing.
I would like to see if that thing can handle 117 apps and what I can do on an ipad without being fustrating.
To give him credit though, I think we has saying that there are still somewhat decently spec'd netbooks for under $300.00 - for those who want one.
Where did I even suggest that?
AMD make good products for big iron servers and value desktops. Neither of which segments Apple are particularly active in. AMD can't take on Intel at their own game - even in the glory days of the Athlon 64 they couldn't make the chips fast enough or poach the Tier 1 Intel OEMs to get a significant percentage of the desktop market.
AMD haven't had a competitive mobile CPU since Intel launched Centrino in 2003. Stick an AMD chip in a MBP and it would have half the battery life and be thicker to accommodate the cooling kit.
AMD need to be making profits to justify the big R&D spend to take Intel on. After posting losses for the last 3 years they've just announced a profit this week.
Apple investing in AMD? Unlikely. They bought PA Semi so they can develop CPU designs in house.
Pfft, the Core Duo isn't much better. My 2006 2GHz Core Duo MacBook Pro runs 160 degrees most of the time and goes up to around 200 degrees under medium stress.
I hope, for the sake of all things good, that this will not come into fruition.
If it is indeed true, could this start a Microsoft-style sell-out on the part of Apple?
If it is indeed true, could this start a Microsoft-style sell-out on the part of Apple?
x2. This site amazes me, then again it is called mac RUMORS. The smallest rumor is brought up and then immediately people take the ball running around with their hands above their heads screaming Armageddon. LOL Let Apple have their meetings. None of us know what they're about. It's one thing to lag on releasing the latest and greatest processors but Apple isn't stupid and are not going to take a giant leap back on processor technology. You never know what's going to happen in upcoming years but I certainly wouldn't worry about Apple moving to AMD unless they're damn sure that the processor will at least compare and/or exceed whatever the current offering is at the time. For ALL we know the Core 2 Duo may STILL be in the 13" in 2 years and the AMD may be a huge improvement.
Whoa, all of you AMD haters out there are completely missing the point.
I don't care if AMD is serving up **** for a CPU, any competition with Intel that keeps prices low and drives increased performance is what really matters.
So for all you retards out there saying 'I hope AMD crash and burn', I say 'I hope you enjoy ridiculous prices and a monopoly market'.
You don't to buy and use something to be for it.
I don't care if AMD is serving up **** for a CPU, any competition with Intel that keeps prices low and drives increased performance is what really matters.
So for all you retards out there saying 'I hope AMD crash and burn', I say 'I hope you enjoy ridiculous prices and a monopoly market'.
You don't to buy and use something to be for it.
Any paradigm shift that requires the original paradigm to remain intact in order to function is anything but "mind blowing". Consider just how useful that iPad is without keeping a conventional computer around to service it with iTunes. Or develop for it. Or back it up. Or print. Or access other hardware and storage media. Or any number of other basic uses we would have to give up to replace our notebooks and netbooks with a yPad.
Suspect this is just posturing. It would be a huge blow for Intel to lose the Apple exclusive. Apple wants to shake Intel's demand that the i chips use only Intel graphics. However if Intel doesn't bend I can see Apple using AMD chips in all models that do not have discrete graphics.
Bulldozer is of interest for the onboard 400 shader DirectX 11 GPU. I still have my doubts on the performance of the CPU part against what Intel is going to offer. Sandy Bridge is going to move the IGP onboard but I expect it to be nothing more than a more powerful Intel GMA solution.
The more mainstream Llano part is just a shrink of the Phenom II/Athlon II with a HD 5000 derivative onboard.
The Q6600 hovered around US$179 for the longest time before it was replaced by the Q8200/8300. On a good day one of those ran US$140-150 depending on the sale.Typical
Core i5 750 (2.66GHZ Quad Core) - RETAILS: $240(CANADIAN)
AMD Athlon II X4 635 (2.93GHZ Quad Core) RETAILS: $131(CANADIAN)
AMD Phenom II X4 925 (2.8GHZ Quad Core) RETAILS: $164(CANADIAN)
As you can see the cheapest Quad Core solution from Intel is Core i5 750 @ $240.. Cheapest from AMD is $131.. or if you want a higher end Quad Core its still cheaper then Intel @ $164..
The point I'm trying to make is that this is awesome news.. It will either mean price drops on the entry level macs, or higher spec'd AMD Based iMacs.. Because with AMD everything is cheaper.. like the motherboards, video cards, aswell as processors..
Propus can just hold its own against the gimped Q8xxx line. The Athlon II X4 has some depressingly high power usage though.
See if you can find a legendary Q7600.
It's a MCM package with a pair of 6-core processors and plenty of HT magic for coherency. It also depends on what you're doing with all those sockets.
Well, that's a different story and has very much to do with the monopoly abuse of which Intel has been found guilty. Nevertheless, Intel has the better CPUs right now, and I doubt that this is going to change. Unfortunately, I have to add. I wish AMD had designed a better successor to A64, but I guess they had only very limited resources and also made a few stupid decisions.
Yeah. Like replacing the 40-man team that designed A64 with a 250 man team for minor design changes. And like throwing away all the EDA tools because the vapor tools from the texas design team would be better if they ever were finished.
True.
Just about every builder outside of Apple also sources from AMD. Not to mention that if market share is everything Apple wouldn't be here either.
Those are some pretty specific details. Source?
Um, so does that mean it's time for some R&D then?
I don't think PA Semi and AMD are competitors in the same way you seem to think they are.
The GMA (Sandy Bridge) will use the Level3-Cache!
-> will help a lot!
If Intel is using this advantage (compared to normal IGPs) at the end for more speed is another question...
Thats because Apple used small ***** heatsinks. to make matters worse, they appied way to much thermal paste to the early MacBooks. My brothers MBP early 2008 ideals at 140F. The same CPU that it has, in a Dell machine runs at 97F ideal. Also, mosr fan's pull air from the bottom, and expels it the rear. Apple's designs don't have those, so the fan's don't push the air out as well as they could. I covered up the intake on my D620. It still gave out hot air, but MUCh less. The high temps is an Apple issue not Intel.
AMD makes mobile CPU's.
See below link to AMD's "Turion" line.
http://www.amd.com/us/products/notebook/processors/turion-x2/Pages/turion-x2-mobile-notebooks.aspx
Yeah, I have an MSI Wind, it's very convenient because it's small, but it isn't all that. The speakers, first of all, technically may be "stereo" but they are truly, truly awful. They are ok for computer alerts but you absolutely can't listen to music on them (headphones sound fine). The keyboard is cramped. The screen is very cramped top to bottom and requires a lot of scrolling if you are browsing or working on a Word document.
It's useful for certain things, and handy to have when portability is a premium, but a decent real laptop is still better for work, and an iPod Touch/iPad is better for music, watching movies, and even playing games. I absolutely would not game on a Wind, it would be way too frustrating.
Just in case someone missed on the news.
AMD Reports Record First Quarter Revenue
AMD shipped over 6 million DX11 GPUs
AMD Reports Record First Quarter Revenue
AMD shipped over 6 million DX11 GPUs