Balmer's entrance
I, for one, hope he gets on stage like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wvsboPUjrGc&feature=related
I, for one, hope he gets on stage like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wvsboPUjrGc&feature=related
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Microsoft's Steve Ballmer to Present During WWDC 2010 Keynote?
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this will be interesting: iphone + microsoft working on silverlight instead of flash and against google...
this will stress the change of filosophy of creativeness (adobe) and open-mind (google-in-the-good-ol'-search-engine-days) Apple was aiming at not more than a few years ago...
This is a brilliant move on Microsoft's part.
Remember, developers have always been extremely important to Microsoft. They target developers. This move erases the demand that developers move from a Windows based dev environment to a Mac one. It keeps developers on Windows.
It's much better to have your developers slinging code for a competitor's system from your system than theirs. This keeps them engaged on your home turf and not the enemy encampment.
With virtualization, Mac devs can develop for .net. But, the equivalent does not exist the other way around. Up until now, you HAD to get a Mac (or Hack, but I don't think many devs would go that route).
Remember, developers have always been extremely important to Microsoft. They target developers. This move erases the demand that developers move from a Windows based dev environment to a Mac one. It keeps developers on Windows.
It's much better to have your developers slinging code for a competitor's system from your system than theirs. This keeps them engaged on your home turf and not the enemy encampment.
With virtualization, Mac devs can develop for .net. But, the equivalent does not exist the other way around. Up until now, you HAD to get a Mac (or Hack, but I don't think many devs would go that route).
Yeah... but you know, herp derp MS sucks amirite guys?????
Anyways, VS 2010 for Mac would be absolutely awesome news!
Let's see what else this could be...
- DirectX for Mac ? The way things go these days, Mac OS is getting more and more attention from game publishers..
- On the same subject, but a different approach.. Microsoft Games for Windows now to also includes Games for Mac, with support for "Live" system ?
- Windows 7 API embedded in Mac OS 10.7 ? Eliminating the need for VMWare and other applications of that kind.
- Now that MacBU is the under the Business division (I fail to remember the exact name of the unit), we'll get the full Office suite, including One Note, Publisher, Access, etc.. ?
- Silverlight dev environment, special edition for Mac OS ?
Ray
- DirectX for Mac ? The way things go these days, Mac OS is getting more and more attention from game publishers..
- On the same subject, but a different approach.. Microsoft Games for Windows now to also includes Games for Mac, with support for "Live" system ?
- Windows 7 API embedded in Mac OS 10.7 ? Eliminating the need for VMWare and other applications of that kind.
- Now that MacBU is the under the Business division (I fail to remember the exact name of the unit), we'll get the full Office suite, including One Note, Publisher, Access, etc.. ?
- Silverlight dev environment, special edition for Mac OS ?
Ray
OR maybe Apple is going to eliminate Google off their OS & introduce Bing!
Sounds about right. MS have a search engine, Apple don't. Apple wish to remove the revenue stream going to google.
The interesting bit is that this then just provides MS with the revenue stream and makes iAd in terms of a holistic tool (search and in-app advert management) a bit of a damp squib.
What does this have to do with Microsoft? If anything, this is a move by Apple not MS.
It's the Third Sign, right after the Mac running on Intel and the Red Sox winning the World Series.
It's not like Apple would want to cut MS' revenue stream anyways, after all, Office for Mac is one of the biggest 3rd party apps for Mac.
And, if they actually replace Google with Bing I will be very surprised. Not because Bing isn't capable (the Silverlight version of Bing Maps, for instance, is ****win), but because it looks like a highly unpopular move.
If it is true (who knows), I would think it would be part of the same announcement to show a new set of cross-platform tools for developers to target the iDevices.
The Blog post indicates that Visual Studio 2010 would be becoming to OSX (The Joke). The analyst said Visual Studio 2010 on Windows would be able to target iDevices. This is a vastly different scenario. One has nothing at all to do with the other.
I wish people would stop mentioning this.
A: He was talking about Novell, not Red Hat/Ubuntu.
B: This isn't a context for web developers/servers (or a forum that centres on them for that matter).
3: Only people that care about Linux care that Linux runs things.
Yes I know that is a 3
That being said, the idea of Steve Balmer being at an Apple event feels very weird. I smell troll.
Sorry, but Winni is correct about XCode vs Other IDEs. You don't need facts, just experience of IDEs.
While XCode is improving, it still lacks and doesn't contain functionality that I'd expect from a modern IDE. For example, you can't debug Unit Tests without going through hoops in XCode, yet, for a looooooong time, this has been possible in other IDEs, such as Eclipse.
Anyone who has used Eclipse can tell you what XCode lacks. XCode isn't that stable either - I regularly get errors and asked if I want to exit XCode.
On the plus side:
* Interface Builder portion of XCode is Good.
* XCode / IB forces you to build your app using MVC pattern ( which is good )
* Its Free + XCode continues to improve
XCode has come a long way from its predecessor - which was no more than a glorified text editor ( ignoring IB portion ) - it still has a long way to go. XCode does the job - but could be a lot better.
Balmer is the 4th horseman.
More likely he's just one of the horses. Steve will ride him around the stage and spur him. Yaw!
If apple wanted to allow Windows using developers to make apps for the iPhone without buying a Mac, they would probably just make a version of Snow Leopard tweaked and licensed to run in a VM or something. I can't see them letting Microsoft make native apps with Visual Studio (not that it wouldn't be interesting I guess...) Then again, I guess there's no barrier to Visual Studio making *Mac* apps...
Right--but it seems weird that this would be done as some sort of add-on (most are for the IDE itself; this would need to be some serious business that also changed the compiler, or you'd need a different compiler installed anyway and the add-on, in addition to being more difficult to install, would hardly be anything special).
Just my thoughts. If this is even true in the first place, I think it's far more likely it's related to Silverlight (still a bit sketchy...) or Bing (perhaps the most likely possibility).
Or they're bringing back IE 9 for Mac, but, really, the world can live without that.