Multiple Mac OS X folders

Corbin052198 · Oct 6, 2010

Can anyone tell me how to keep more than one OS X System folder on the same hard drive? I have Mac OS X 10.4 and I need to install 10.1, but I can't from the 10.1 Installer.

If I have to re-partion, then can someone give me a freeware option that is non-destructive?

If it helps, I have an iBook G3 Dual-USB (I know, it's old

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Intell · Oct 6, 2010

May I ask why you need 10.1? You can only have one 10.X system folder per partition.

Corbin052198 · Oct 6, 2010

Intell said:
May I ask why you need 10.1

Some apps will not run on 10.4 that I need.

Intell said:
You can only have one 10.X system folder per partition.

Ouch

I did not know that. I guess it's resizing partitions for me!

This might help me...

http://www.macworld.com/article/55274/2007/02/marchgeekfactor.html

I'll keep you all posted

Intell · Oct 6, 2010

It may, just be sure to have a complete backup before trying anything.

Corbin052198 · Oct 6, 2010

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Intell said:
It may, just be sure to have a complete backup before trying anything.

Thanks for the advice! The page has a pretty full guide for it.

My previous attempt was to install 10.1 to a flash drive

It installed, but did not boot (big waste of time).

I'm going to try in the morning. Partioning hard drives is the last thing I want to do at 10:00 PM.

Corbin052198 · Oct 7, 2010

I can't seem to get it working. I need to resize an 18.5 GB partition(My 10.4 and 9.2 partition) to 16.5 GB and create a 2 GB partition (for Mac OS X 10.1).

Can anyone help me?

Here's what it keeps spitting out:

Code:

Disk Utility Tool
Usage:  diskutil resizeVolume [Mount Point|Disk Identifier|Device Node] size
        <part1Format part1Name part1Size> <part2Format part2Name part2Size> ...
Non-destructively resize a disk. You may increase or decrease its size.
When decreasing size, you may optionally supply a list of new partitions to create.
Ownership of the affected disk is required.
Valid partition sizes are in the format of <number><size>.
Valid sizes are B(ytes), K(ilobytes), M(egabytes), G(igabytes), T(erabytes)
Example: 10G (10 gigabytes), 4.23T (4.23 terabytes), 5M (5 megabytes)
resizeVolume is only supported on GPT media with a Journaled HFS+ filesystem.
A size of "limits" will print the range of valid values for the current filesystem.
Example: diskutil resizeVolume disk1s3  10G
         JHFS+ HDX1 5G MS-DOS HDX2 5G
Valid filesystems: "Case-sensitive HFS+" "Journaled HFS+" "Case-sensitive Journaled HFS+" "HFS+" "HFS" "MS-DOS FAT32" "MS-DOS FAT16" "MS-DOS" "MS-DOS FAT12" "UFS" "Linux" "Swap"

MisterMe · Oct 7, 2010

Corbin052198 said:
I can't seem to get it working. I need to resize an 18.5 GB partition(My 10.4 and 9.2 partition) to 16.5 GB and create a 2 GB partition (for Mac OS X 10.1).

Can anyone help me? ...

Wow! Just WOW! Your hard drive is woefully inadequate for one OS, but you have partitioned it in a misguided attempt to install two OSes. An installation MacOS X 10.1 needs at least 3 GB of hard drive space. I never ran it on anything less than 6 GB. However, I would recommend nothing less than 10 GB for this version of MacOS X.

I can only face palm your installation of MacOS X 10.4. A full installation takes up about 40 GB. A useful installation requires much more. When I replaced the 6 GB hard drive in my PowerBook G3 Pismo to 120 GB, I was able to install MacOS X 10.4 on it.

Corbin052198 · Oct 7, 2010

MisterMe said:
Wow! Just WOW! Your hard drive is woefully inadequate for one OS, but you have partitioned it in a misguided attempt to install two OSes. An installation MacOS X 10.1 needs at least 3 GB of hard drive space. I never ran it on anything less than 6 GB. However, I would recommend nothing less than 10 GB for this version of MacOS X.

I can only face palm your installation of MacOS X 10.4. A full installation takes up about 40 GB. A useful installation requires much more. When I replaced the 6 GB hard drive in my PowerBook G3 Pismo to 120 GB, I was able to install MacOS X 10.4 on it.

According to Wikipedia:

Supported computers — Power Mac G3, G4, G4 Cube, iMac G3, DV, eMac, PowerBook, or iBook[2]
RAM required — 128 megabytes[2] (MB) (unofficially 64 MB minimum)
Free hard drive space — 1.5 gigabytes[2] (GB)

In my attempt to get 10.1 on a flash drive, 10.1 installed on a 2 GB Flash Drive, and still had some space left.

The 10.4 System folder on my iBook G3 is 1.65 GB, and it is a full install. I don't know why you said 40 GB

According to Wikipedia:

The system requirements of the PowerPC edition are:[10]
A PowerPC G3, G4, or G5 processor
Built-in FireWire
At least 256 MB of RAM (512 MB or 1 GB recommended)
At least 3 GB of available hard disk space; 4 GB of disk space including the Xcode 2 Tools
DVD drive (CD media exchange was available; offer ended on March 19, 2007)

And yes, my HD is a little on the small side, but it can store a lot more than 10.4 and Mac OS 9

MisterMe · Oct 7, 2010

Corbin052198 said:
According to Wikipedia:[/U]

In my attempt to get 10.1 on a flash drive, 10.1 installed on a 2 GB Flash Drive, and still had some space left.

The 10.4 System folder on my iBook G3 is 1.65 GB, and it is a full install. I don't know why you said 40 GB

According to Wikipedia:

And yes, my HD is a little on the small side, but it can store a lot more than 10.4 and Mac OS 9

FWIW, Wikipedia is not an authority. It is simply a good starting point to find the information that you need. Considering what some people on this forum have done, it is to your credit that you did at least go to Wikipedia.

Now to the Real World. I will repeat myself. Your hard drive is woefully inadequate to support even one OS, particularly if that OS is MacOS X. Your research has revealed the irreducible minima for installation--if you leave some stuff out. MacOS X 10.4 comes with Garageband which pushes its space requirements out to 40 GB or so.

The numbers that I gave you are what you need if you intend to actually work with your system. The Wikipedia numbers are for those who want to boot the OSes as curiosities. Be productive or be frustrated. The choice is yours.

Intell · Oct 7, 2010

You can only resize a GUID disk (Intel). Not a Apple Partition Map one (PPC).

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MisterMe said:
Corbin052198 said:

According to Wikipedia:[/U]

In my attempt to get 10.1 on a flash drive, 10.1 installed on a 2 GB Flash Drive, and still had some space left.

The 10.4 System folder on my iBook G3 is 1.65 GB, and it is a full install. I don't know why you said 40 GB

According to Wikipedia:

And yes, my HD is a little on the small side, but it can store a lot more than 10.4 and Mac OS 9

Click to expand...

FWIW, Wikipedia is not an authority. It is simply a good starting point to find the information that you need. Considering what some people on this forum have done, it is to your credit that you did at least go to Wikipedia.

Now to the Real World. I will repeat myself. Your hard drive is woefully inadequate to support even one OS, particularly if that OS is MacOS X. Your research has revealed the irreducible minima for installation--if you leave some stuff out. MacOS X 10.4 comes with Garageband which pushes its space requirements out to 40 GB or so.

The numbers that I gave you are what you need if you intend to actually work with your system. The Wikipedia numbers are for those who want to boot the OSes as curiosities. Be productive or be frustrated. The choice is yours.

When I had to wipe the HD and re-install Tiger, it did not have iLife. Macs come with iLife, not OS X. But I do know iLife and GarageBand do take up a lot of resorces. I ended up un-installing iLife.

By the way, my OS X installation is so screwed up, I'm probably going to wipe Mac OS X, install 10.1, play with it for a while, make a backup image, and then install Tiger again.

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Intell said:
You can only resize a GUID disk (Intel). Not a Apple Partition Map one (PPC).

What about this iPartion software I googled?It works on PPC Macs. I tested the demo.

Intell · Oct 7, 2010

Corbin052198 said:
What about this iPartion software I googled?It works on PPC Macs. I tested the demo.

That will work on PPC machines. I was referring to Disk Utility, which was in your post.

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Intell said:
Corbin052198 said:

What about this iPartion software I googled?It works on PPC Macs. I tested the demo.

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That will work on PPC machines. I was referring to Disk Utility, which was in your post.

Right. Sorry

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