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Within the next month, the University of Chicago Medical Center plans to provide iPads to all of its internal medicine residents, expanding on a pilot program launched earlier this year. Similarly, Loyola University Medical Center in Maywood has given iPads to all of its orthopedic residents as part of a pilot program.

Another hospital that has embraced the iPad is MetroSouth Medical Center in Blue Island. Once doctors there learned that they could access the hospital's electronic medical records with the iPad, "it went through here like wildfire," said Dr. Richard Watson, an emergency room physician at MetroSouth. "At least half of our staff here in the emergency room has their own iPad and carries it and uses it."

Last week, Watson used his iPad to show 14-year-old Gustavo Pintor an X-ray of his sprained right ankle. "It was cool to see," said the teen, who'd gotten hurt at soccer practice. "I feel like I understand what happened now." Though the iPad provides a portal to the hospital's electronic record, patient information isn't actually stored on the device. And both the iPad and the hospital server are password-protected, lowering the chances that sensitive data could be swiped from a lost or stolen iPad.

Dr. Eric Nussbaum, MetroSouth's emergency room chief, said the iPad also solves one of the problems created by switching from a paper-based record system to an electronic one: having to go to a desktop computer to order lab tests or type in notes on a patient.

http://www.suntimes.com/lifestyles/health/2814148,CST-NWS-health19.article


I've yet to see one in medical use here in the UK, but it could be just a matter of time. A potentially lucrative market for developers, too.
 
their not really embracing it at our hospital. But then were still hand writing our orders. Should be switching over to electronic records in a year or so.
 
their not really embracing it at our hospital. But then were still hand writing our orders. Should be switching over to electronic records in a year or so.

Let's just hope when you are lying in your hospital bed, on the verge of death and they pick up the iPad it does not go wrong.

As go wrong they will eventually.

A piece of paper with writing on it costs nothing to replace and does not do wrong.

It's all nice and shiny and modern, but when things get serious I'd rather have something 100% reliable than some modern gadget.
 
A piece of paper with writing on it costs nothing to replace and does not do wrong.

except when the nurses cannot read the writing on the paper and prescribe the wrong dosage or the piece of paper gets misplaced or put into another persons chart

our hospital is not embracing the iPad yet but I am working to change that. We are getting more and more doctors whom are asking about it.
 
except when the nurses cannot read the writing on the paper and prescribe the wrong dosage or the piece of paper gets misplaced or put into another persons chart

our hospital is not embracing the iPad yet but I am working to change that. We are getting more and more doctors whom are asking about it.

I would imagine it's easier to press the wrong button on a screen than it is to write the wrong number on a piece of paper.

Just like we has so many mis priced items on web pages, due to typo's

I love tech, I'm just aware it's easy to replace things that are 100% reliable with tech that whilst looks clever, when it goes wrong, boy does it go wrong.

Which is fine if it's a letter of a photo or something, but not when it's your life. And who will monitor the devices in a few years time when they gradually start to fail?

iPad's also are home/entertainment devices they are not built for serious work with redundant backup systems in place and able to be dropped etc etc.....
 
Let's just hope when you are lying in your hospital bed, on the verge of death and they pick up the iPad it does not go wrong.

As go wrong they will eventually.

A piece of paper with writing on it costs nothing to replace and does not do wrong.

It's all nice and shiny and modern, but when things get serious I'd rather have something 100% reliable than some modern gadget.

Well, first off, as the article said, the ipadsare only being used as entry/ display devices, not storing the data.. So if the iPad tanks, no big deal, just go to any other computer and do what you need to do.

Second, do you know how many errors happen every year because nurses can't read the doctors handwriting, or the paper records get misplaced, or because patients don't 100% disclose all the medications that they are on or problems they've had in the past which cause complications? By having electronic records, especially if they are complete histories, any doctor treating you can see everything about your history, and his orders are easy to see and read and follow.

Sounds like a win to me!
 
How many people die because of bad handwriting?

I was curious to see how many people are actually killed because of bad handwriting and came across this Time article. The study was from 2006. 7,000 annually? Wow. Not sure how they came up with this number though.

On a little more upbeat note, if anyone is in the Halloween mood, check out this video by a company who is creating an app for their medical software.
 
By having electronic records, especially if they are complete histories, any doctor treating you can see everything about your history, and his orders are easy to see and read and follow.

I'm all for electronic health records. The health care industry as a whole needs to work on inter-operability between the different EHRs, though. A correct medical history is only effective if it can be accessed by clinicians and pharmacists spanning differenent health care settings.
 
I would imagine it's easier to press the wrong button on a screen than it is to write the wrong number on a piece of paper.

As others have pointed out, more information is better than less information. As for a single button click killing a patient, there are safeguards in place to prevent buying an application unintentionally and it's unlikely that anything relating to physician's orders would be a single-step without a request for confirmation. We've all seen "Westworld" and it makes for good entertainment, but people do think these things through.
 
I believe by the end of 2012, all medical records will need to be entered electronically. With that being said, the iPad would make a great device to use as a EMR input device.
 
I believe by the end of 2012, all medical records will need to be entered electronically. With that being said, the iPad would make a great device to use as a EMR input device.

There was $19 Billion in 2009 stimulus funds allocated to EMR conversions.
 
Let's just hope when you are lying in your hospital bed, on the verge of death and they pick up the iPad it does not go wrong.
As go wrong they will eventually.A piece of paper with writing on it costs nothing to replace and does not do wrong.It's all nice and shiny and modern, but when things get serious I'd rather have something 100% reliable than some modern gadget.
I'm just aware it's easy to replace things that are 100% reliable with tech that whilst looks clever, when it goes wrong, boy does it go wrong.

I can see by your posts that you do not work in the medical field... good thinking, but is actually so wrong, computerized records are way better than paper for everybody, especially the patients. You have no idea...
 
My old hospital only just switched from a DOS (shudder) based system to a more modern electronic record. My new one still does paper except for viewng lab results.

iPads at work would be awesome but unless there's a lot of funds available (I've been to U. Chicago and the peds hospital has plasma screens in every patient room) it's not going to happen anytime soon :(
 
I can see by your posts that you do not work in the medical field... good thinking, but is actually so wrong, computerized records are way better than paper for everybody, especially the patients. You have no idea...

Until it goes wrong.
 
Until it goes wrong.

You don't get it... that's EXACTLY what we're saying - that paper records go wrong too! I'd MUCH rather have electronic that can be easily read, than handwritten paper...

Sure, it's not going to solve situations where a nurse reads the wrong line, or where the doctor checks the wrong box (paper or electronic). HOWEVER, it CAN do things like have checks in that say "Hey, you checked to give this patient this medication, but he's also on this other medication and those two can cause complications, are you SURE you want to do this?" You can't do that in paper records...
 
Until it goes wrong.

I'd take the password protected redundantly backed up electronic files over paper anyday.

Fires, floods, improper filing, etc. Paper is just too fragile for long term storage.
 
I'd take the password protected redundantly backed up electronic files over paper anyday.

Fires, floods, improper filing, etc. Paper is just too fragile for long term storage.

Not to mention immediate access to imaging files (CAT scans, X-Rays) that make diagnosis and treatment more effective.
 
the biggest thing with paper is fighting over who gets the chart next. Honestly I feel like I spend half my time waiting for the med students, consultants, case workers, nurses, transport, etc to give up the chart.

It'll be nice when all the notes, consults,orders, etc are all electronic. Hell it was a huge difference when all the labs, and imaging were available.
 
I'd take the password protected redundantly backed up electronic files over paper anyday.

Fires, floods, improper filing, etc. Paper is just too fragile for long term storage.

Perhaps you need to go to your History tutor and rethink that statement :D

Just to reiterate, I don't mind Electronic Storage and of course instant access to records are good, but the iPad has been build as a very fragile home entertainment device, it would not get past the 1st stage of testing for anything serious.
 
Perhaps you need to go to your History tutor and rethink that statement :D

Are you referring to the books we have from the far past that only exist today because of extreme special care taken to preserve them?
 
And would an iPad with 3G not be automatically banned from all UK Hospitals since the use of mobile phones are prohibited? I somehow doubt we'll start seeing "Only WiFi iPad's allowed" signs everywhere...
 
I've read about this since those institutions are local to me. it's pretty neat and should be a great asset.

it's certainly better than papers that get mixed up or cannot be read. it's a perfect device for hospital usage IMO.
 
Are you referring to the books we have from the far past that only exist today because of extreme special care taken to preserve them?

Well, unsure really how many hundred years an iPad would last for :p

Just think a very large hospital, with say, what 200, 300 members of staff with iPads.
Nice hygienic clean HARD floors.
Just how many iPads per day do you think you would be replacing due to smashed glass from being dropped?
 
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