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Back in July i was pulled over going 80 in a 65 (I-10 westbound in West Covina) by CHP, when I got pulled over i didn't contest i was speeding and just took the ticket, there where two officers in the car that pulled me over, one stood by the patrol car watching while the other officer spoke to me, he was cool about everything (except giving me the ticket lol) and when he gave me the ticket he said "don't just pay the ticket go to court, here is the address of the court and I personally know the judge; he is a good person".

The initial due date of the ticket was 8/26/10 and a week before that I set a arraignment date to see a judge for 11/4/10 and haven't thought about it since. Well it's 11/3/10 and I have no idea what I'm supposed to do tomorrow, I should have just payed it but just set a date because thats what the chp officer suggested, should I just go in and plead guilty, not guilty, no contest, or what?

Pretty confused :confused:
 
If the officer is not there:

"I honestly didn't know my speed, your honour, I was just keeping up with traffic at the time."

If the officer is there:

If you admitted to him you were speeding, you're screwed.

If not, make them prove that the equipment was checked, according to the standards.
 
If the officer is not there:

"I honestly didn't know my speed, your honour, I was just keeping up with traffic at the time."

If the officer is there:

If you admitted to him you were speeding, you're screwed.

If not, make them prove that the equipment was checked, according to the standards.

This. Don't outright deny the ticket. Just be calm and say you were flowing with traffics when you heard the officer pulling you over.
 
Slow the **** down.

Oh, you mean about the ticket? :eek:

iJohnHenry has some good advice. I've never gotten a speeding ticket, myself, sorry I can't be more help.
 
I don't have a problem paying the ticket since i was speeding and if I could go back I would have just payed and took traffic school but I already went this far. So should I just plead no contest, that way i'm covered if he shows up or not? I mean if plead not guilty won't I lose even if he doesn't show up?
 
I don't have a problem paying the ticket since i was speeding and if I could go back I would have just payed and took traffic school but I already went this far. So should I just plead no contest, that way i'm covered if he shows up or not? I mean if plead not guilty won't I lose even if he doesn't show up?

"no contest" is as good as pleading "guilty".....so what do you mean, you're covered????

If you plead "not guilty" and he doesn't show up, there's nobody to give testimony against you to prove you're guilty......so why would you lose????
 
"no contest" is as good as pleading "guilty".....so what do you mean, you're covered????

If you plead "not guilty" and he doesn't show up, there's nobody to give testimony against you to prove you're guilty......so why would you lose????
Because in many jurisdictions, the ticket, written by a LEO, is evidence enough to prove your guilt. It makes sense if you think about it.

Your word against a ticket, the ticket will usually win.
 
Because in many jurisdictions, the ticket, written by a LEO, is evidence enough to prove your guilt. It makes sense if you think about it.

Your word against a ticket, the ticket will usually win.

in california if you want to challenge the ticket, you can have a trial.......my one experience with having a trial with the intention of pleading not guilty was that when the cop didn't show up to testify, the judge dismissed the case as a matter of routine
 
easy dude.

1) put on a pair of khakis and a button shirt.
2) show up
3) officer will show up and give you a dramatically reduced penalty
4) pay the clerk

FYI: I went 75 in a 55 (speed trap) and they the officer reduced it to 56 in a 55. $390 fine with points reduced to $80 with no points

Friend went 80 in 65. Showed up and got 70 in 65. no points and reduced fine

You should expect the above seeing as how the officer flat out told you to just show up
 
Reading this has made me thing why hasn't the CHP stopped me?

..no tickets....:eek:

I have gone 80 with several other cars..... no luck either...
 
Reading this has made me thing why hasn't the CHP stopped me?

..no tickets....:eek:

I have gone 80 with several other cars..... no luck either...

I think it depends. We have roads here such as I-90 (Mass Pike) where everyone goes about 80 in 65. I once got a *warning* there for doing 84! It was my lucky day. Anyway, in most cases they won't stop for doing that. But on the intersecting I-95 doing 80 in 65 will almost certainly get you a ticket. Also, in wonderful MA ALL moving violations result in points no matter how much they reduce the ticket which means insurance will go up so it's worth fighting every ticket anyway. Not sure if it's same in CA.
 
"no contest" is as good as pleading "guilty".....so what do you mean, you're covered????

If you plead "not guilty" and he doesn't show up, there's nobody to give testimony against you to prove you're guilty......so why would you lose????

Will I know if the officer is going to show up before I plead guilty or not guilty? I know to plead not guilty if he isn't there and guilty if he is, but what if I plead not guilty and he does show up, or vis versa?
 
Will I know if the officer is going to show up before I plead guilty or not guilty? I know to plead not guilty if he isn't there and guilty if he is, but what if I plead not guilty and he does show up, or vis versa?

Why are you pleading guilty now? You have NOTHING to lose when you go to court. It's not like if the cop shows up, the fine will go up or something. Just ask the prosecutor to reduce the fine. If they reduce it, then great, if not, what have you lost other than the original fine?
 
In california, if the officer isn't there, I think they dismiss the ticket

I read about that. Although, truthfully, if I got caught for doing something I wasn't supposed to be doing I think it's only right I pay the fine. I've never had a speeding ticket, but the only time I let loose is on the expressway and it's only because it gets away from me.
 
easy dude.

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FYI: I went 75 in a 55 (speed trap) and they the officer reduced it to 56 in a 55. $390 fine with points reduced to $80 with no points

Friend went 80 in 65. Showed up and got 70 in 65. no points and reduced fine

You should expect the above seeing as how the officer flat out told you to just show up

Dude ( :) ),

75 in 55 is not a speed trap, that is just reckless - though to be fair to you I would like to hear how that was a speed trap. Getting caught 65 in 55 maybe.

Not sure how your laws are - but 20 or above in Virginia is reck less driving (which can be a felony or misdemeanor).

In the end, just obey the law and there will be no problems....

Reckless Driving (Felony or Misdemeanor)

Reckless driving - speeding in excess of 80 mph (11 years)
Reckless driving - speeding 20 mph or more above the posted speed limit (11 years)
Reckless driving - racing (11 years)
Reckless driving - passing or overtaking an emergency vehicle (11 years)
Reckless driving - passing a school bus (11 years)
Reckless driving - passing on the crest of a hill (11 years)
Reckless driving - passing at a railroad crossing (11 years)
Reckless driving - passing two vehicles abreast (11 years)
Reckless driving - driving two vehicles abreast (11 years)
Reckless driving - driving too fast for conditions (11 years)
Reckless driving - failing to give a proper signal (11 years)
Reckless driving - faulty brakes/improper control (11 years)
Reckless driving - on parking lots, etc. (11 years)
Reckless driving - with an obstructed view (11 years)
Reckless driving - generally (11 years)
Speeding 20 mph or more above the posted speed limit (5 years)

The years noted are how long the points stay on the license.

I am old enough to remember when people did not speed as much as they do today, and obeyed other traffic laws better. One, there were a lot more cops enforcing traffic laws. Two, the judges were much more strict in following the traffic laws. Three, there was much more respect of civil order - none of this "I am better than others" attitude.

And I have said here before in these forums about traffic tickets - we need to take the approach of some other countries - and base the fine on the income of the individual. May sound socialist; but think about it before anyone gets their knickers in a twist.

The purpose of a fine is to deter one from breaking the law to begin with. So using your example of the $390 for the ticket that you received. That $390 could either be a major hit or just a drop in the bucket.

Yes, I have gotten some traffic tickets over the years. The first couple were well deserved - and I paid it (see my number three above). In other cases I was using prudent judgement. One was for running a stop sign in DC on a dark rainy night - went to court with pictures showing that the sign was set too far back from the corner for the low light conditions.

In another case, I was tagged for speeding. But I was on a road trip to test out MPG's in my new car so I was doing the speed limit. This was a speed trap as you would call it. I went in to court with my gas receipts and the MPG's I was getting. Along with a map of the road I was tagged on, a corner in the road. And got the judge to get the officer to admit that there was a semi that passed just before he "clocked" me. Case dismissed.
 
I think it depends. We have roads here such as I-90 (Mass Pike) where everyone goes about 80 in 65. I once got a *warning* there for doing 84! It was my lucky day. Anyway, in most cases they won't stop for doing that. But on the intersecting I-95 doing 80 in 65 will almost certainly get you a ticket.
The Mass Pike is a weird road in that sense. It's great if you're going from 146 to the NY border though. ;)
Dude ( :) ),

75 in 55 is not a speed trap, that is just reckless
A speed trap is anywhere with an unjustifiably low speed limit. See an extreme example here.
Not sure how your laws are - but 20 or above in Virginia is reck less driving (which can be a felony or misdemeanor).

In the end, just obey the law and there will be no problems....

Reckless Driving (Felony or Misdemeanor)

Reckless driving - speeding in excess of 80 mph (11 years)
Reckless driving - speeding 20 mph or more above the posted speed limit (11 years)
Reckless driving - racing (11 years)
Reckless driving - passing or overtaking an emergency vehicle (11 years)
Reckless driving - passing a school bus (11 years)
Reckless driving - passing on the crest of a hill (11 years)
Reckless driving - passing at a railroad crossing (11 years)
Reckless driving - passing two vehicles abreast (11 years)
Reckless driving - driving two vehicles abreast (11 years)
Reckless driving - driving too fast for conditions (11 years)
Reckless driving - failing to give a proper signal (11 years)
Reckless driving - faulty brakes/improper control (11 years)
Reckless driving - on parking lots, etc. (11 years)
Reckless driving - with an obstructed view (11 years)
Reckless driving - generally (11 years)
Speeding 20 mph or more above the posted speed limit (5 years)
I've been pulled over for 1 and 2 combined (85 in a 65 on 95N in CT at ~3am). The ticket was written for 75. I simply showed up, and the prosecutor dropped it without me having to say a word.
I've passed emergency vehicles on interstates several times, because fire trucks and ambulances rarely go above 60 around here. Cops obviously go faster. I suppose I passed a school bus once, but I only saw it from the side, which meant I couldn't see the flashing lights at all, and it was stopping at a stop sign.
And I have said here before in these forums about traffic tickets - we need to take the approach of some other countries - and base the fine on the income of the individual. May sound socialist; but think about it before anyone gets their knickers in a twist.

I would fully support that if: police officers enforce serious traffic offenses in addition to speeding, such as: tailgating, excessive/unsafe lane changes, traveling in the passing lane,; and we ad sensible speed limits that are set according the 85th percentile speeds (on highways), rather than what parties benefitting from the revenue say.
 
it ended up being just an arraignment :|
I paid the ticket and went to traffic school already, sorry for taking so long to reply.
 
The Mass Pike is a weird road in that sense. It's great if you're going from 146 to the NY border though. ;)

A speed trap is anywhere with an unjustifiably low speed limit. See an extreme example here.
There are those of course.... but more the reason to obey the signs as they come up. There are many roads that I travel on that have speed limits that make no sense - but I see them and obey them.

I've been pulled over for 1 and 2 combined (85 in a 65 on 95N in CT at ~3am). The ticket was written for 75. I simply showed up, and the prosecutor dropped it without me having to say a word.
I've passed emergency vehicles on interstates several times, because fire trucks and ambulances rarely go above 60 around here. Cops obviously go faster. I suppose I passed a school bus once, but I only saw it from the side, which meant I couldn't see the flashing lights at all, and it was stopping at a stop sign.

You were lucky... but out of state plates are fair game some times.... :(

IRC some emergency vehicles are not allowed to breaks the speed limit - police seem to be under their own laws :(


I would fully support that if: police officers enforce serious traffic offenses in addition to speeding, such as: tailgating, excessive/unsafe lane changes, traveling in the passing lane,; and we ad sensible speed limits that are set according the 85th percentile speeds (on highways), rather than what parties benefitting from the revenue say.

Amen there!!!!!
 
Well, I'll dammed, in 6 years of driving, I just got my first traffic ticket; ever. It was for going 72 in a 60.

That was the most BS pull over ever, why:

1. Going with traffic flow: check
2. Everyone goes beyond 60 on I-610: check
3. I was the only car among a pack of trailers, so it's easier for me to pull over: check


I am pissed. Worst thing, the court date is for the 23rd, and I am leaving the country the 11th (this has been planned for 6 months already, no turning back). The officer, didn't say anything but license and registration. Then he said, 72 on 60, and gave me nothing to believe him (ie the actual image of the radar).

I did not talk to the officer at all, just told him to give me a sec on my license and then signed the ticket (which I know is not admission of guilt, but receipt of ticket). After signing, he told me you are free to go, and I left. Any chance of getting the dam thing revoked in court?
 
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