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Your opinion on i4 unlock release

When do you think ultrasn0w v1.3 be released ( 02.10.04 )

  • Before Christmas

    Votes: 12 34.3%

  • 1 month

    Votes: 3 8.6%

  • 2 months

    Votes: 4 11.4%

  • 3 months ++

    Votes: 16 45.7%
  • Total voters
    35
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CZK

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MuscleNerd was reffering to monday november 29th.

Considering this, and considering previous time frames for developping utrasn0w when do you think the unlock for the iphone 4 02.10.04 will be released.

This topic is for opinions and objective arguments, don't take anything as factual.

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In my opinion Dev Team should charge 25 $ each unlock. (you provide your iphone IME or serial number on purchase and they lock the unlock program to this serial number simply by adding your serial number value in the script and shipping your purchase via email. This is totally do-able i've seen this before ( not with cell phone but with something similar))

This way they would be able to work on this 8 hours a day for xx days.

Who cares paying 25 bucks once and get the unlock before iphone 7 gets out.
 
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when it's released but not before! more interested in a untethered jb for my I4 4.2.1 but I'm not going to start a poll about that! ;)
 
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It will be a while. A baseband crash is a long way from a stable unlock.
 
ulbador said:
It will be a while. A baseband crash is a long way from a stable unlock.
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How do they did to make the unlock for the first baseband of the iphone 4 a couples of weeks after its release ?
 
each time there is a Jailbreak or Unlock Apple / AT&T get smarter it becomes more difficult for the Dev-team and even Geohot to crack. it is a very complicated process to find jailbreaks and unlocks and then trying to make the device still stable. If AT&T would allow factory unlocks this would be much better for everyone except maybe AT&T but it could help them too. it takes as long as it takes. these guys are also allowed to have personal lives imo.
 
labman said:
each time there is a Jailbreak or Unlock Apple / AT&T get smarter it becomes more difficult for the Dev-team and even Geohot to crack. it is a very complicated process to find jailbreaks and unlocks and then trying to make the device still stable. If AT&T would allow factory unlocks this would be much better for everyone except maybe AT&T but it could help them too. it takes as long as it takes. these guys are also allowed to have personal lives imo.
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In my opinion they should charge 25 $ each unlock. (you provide your iphone IME or serial number on purchase and they lock the unlock program to this serial number simply by adding your serial number value in the script and shipping your purchase via email. This is totally do-able i've seen this before ( not with cell phone but with something similar))

This way they would be able to work on this 8 hours a day for xx days.

Who cares paying 25 bucks once and get the unlock before iphone 7 gets out.
 
CZK said:
In my opinion they should charge 25 $ each unlock. (you provide your iphone IME or serial number on purchase and they lock the unlock program to this serial number simply by adding your serial number value in the script and shipping your purchase via email. This is totally do-able i've seen this before ( not with cell phone but with something similar))

This way they would be able to work on this 8 hours a day for xx days.

Who cares paying 25 bucks once and get the unlock before iphone 7 gets out.
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agree 100% now convince AT&T and then we have one less thing for the Dev-team and Geohot to worry about! now if only it was that easy even a $100 a pop would be worth it for those that want and or need it.. but this situation is not the Dev-teams fault and many of them are not affected by AT&T some don't live in the US
 
labman said:
agree 100% now convince AT&T and then we have one less thing for the Dev-team and Geohot to worry about! now if only it was that easy even a $100 a pop would be worth it for those that want and or need it.. but this situation is not the Dev-teams fault and many of them are not affected by AT&T some don't live in the US
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Convince AT&T of what ?

(I meant dev-team charging 25$ for the unlock, who cares paying 25 $ when not waiting for 6 months)

Also i live in canada and my phone is locked to telus the worst company of all.
 
CZK said:
Convince AT&T of what ?

(I meant dev-team charging 25$ for the unlock, who cares paying 25 $ when not waiting for 6 months)

Also i live in canada and my phone is locked to telus the worst company of all.
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bottom line the Dev-team do not want to charge a few accept donations I don't see that changing for many reasons.

n my opinion they should charge 25 $ each unlock. (you provide your iphone IME or serial number on purchase and they lock the unlock program to this serial number simply by adding your serial number value in the script and shipping your purchase via email. This is totally do-able i've seen this before ( not with cell phone but with something similar))

This way they would be able to work on this 8 hours a day for xx days.

Who cares paying 25 bucks once and get the unlock before iphone 7 gets out.
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also if it were that this simple they would have done it probably for free the process is much more complicated then you think it is. you honestly think if the Dev-team could do what you said above they would spend there time working ion Ultrasn0w?
 
labman said:
bottom line the Dev-team do not want to charge a few accept donations I don't see that changing for many reasons.



also if it were that this simple they would have done it probably for free the process is much more complicated then you think it is. you honestly think if the Dev-team could do what you said above they would spend there time working ion Ultrasn0w?
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-Locking the unlock process to a single iphone'serial number is easy...


-Yes because 25$ x 100,000+ users is alot of money, they would be able to live out of this. ( the real question is: Is it legal or not?)
 
CZK said:
-Locking the unlock process to a single iphone'serial number is easy...


-Yes because 25$ x 100,000+ users is alot of money.
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ok you win Dev-team just like to waste time hacking stuff! :rolleyes: and it's easy great entrepreneur thing for however does it including you. 2.5 mil according to your estimate.
 
Look! OP is the same impatient troll from the previous thread!

https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/1058925/


In my opinion, you should stop b!tching about this, and develop your own unlock.
Yes, there, I said it.

Or do what this guy said:

Invid said:
CZK said he's locked to Telus which means he's probably Canadian. He could have purchased an unlocked phone direct from Apple in Canada, but didn't because he's cheap.

Now he acts like the Dev-Team owes him something. If it was really important why didn't he buy unlocked instead of whining here that his needs aren't being serviced first?

It's like his mother told him he was special and he believed her.

Been lurking here forever, and this guy's childish post is what prompted me to register.
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What's funny is that people talk about unlocks like it's the most amazing thing ever.

Put it this way...

$400 = $299 + Tax & Gas to Apple Store to buy an iPhone 4 32 on 2 year contract.

$2,655 = Price you pay for normal iPhone + Text + Smallest Voice Plan over 2 years.

That means the cost of owning an AT&T iPhone for 2 years is $3055


Now, if you buy a UK Factory Unlocked iPhone 4 like I did, it costs $867 (and if you actually go to the UK like me, you get about $100 VAT Refunded, but let's assume you don't)....

$867 = $867 to buy a 32 GB iPhone 4 FACTORY UNLOCKED

$2,655 = Price you pay for normal iPhone + Text + Smallest Voice Plan over 2 years. Even though I quote the price, you are free to leave ANYTIME since you can get a month to month plan on AT&T since you have NO CONTRACT.

That means the cost of owning a FACTORY UNLOCKED iPhone for 2 years is $3522

Owning a factory unlocked phone costs you $467 more over 2 years, than signing your life over to AT&T, being forced to stick with them or pay their $325 Early Termination Fee, and having to deal with the BS of waiting for jailbreaks and unlocks and baseband issues, and not being able to just upgrade.....

.... All this hassle for $467, which equates to 15% more in total cost of ownership, which you're going to probably make up half of when you re-sell the device because factory unlocked devices sell for more.

I spend $1300 a year at STARBUCKS like many people. The US Cellular Companies have done a great job distracting you from the realities of cost of owning cellular service by hiding behind contracts, locked phones, and blurring the total cost be subsidizing a tiny piece of the total cost to make it look like you're getting a deal.

Be a smart consumer.
 
bella92108 said:
What's funny is that people talk about unlocks like it's the most amazing thing ever.

Put it this way...

$400 = $299 + Tax & Gas to Apple Store to buy an iPhone 4 32 on 2 year contract.

$2,655 = Price you pay for normal iPhone + Text + Smallest Voice Plan over 2 years.

That means the cost of owning an AT&T iPhone for 2 years is $3055


Now, if you buy a UK Factory Unlocked iPhone 4 like I did, it costs $867 (and if you actually go to the UK like me, you get about $100 VAT Refunded, but let's assume you don't)....

$867 = $867 to buy a 32 GB iPhone 4 FACTORY UNLOCKED

$2,655 = Price you pay for normal iPhone + Text + Smallest Voice Plan over 2 years. Even though I quote the price, you are free to leave ANYTIME since you can get a month to month plan on AT&T since you have NO CONTRACT.

That means the cost of owning a FACTORY UNLOCKED iPhone for 2 years is $3522

Owning a factory unlocked phone costs you $467 more over 2 years, than signing your life over to AT&T, being forced to stick with them or pay their $325 Early Termination Fee, and having to deal with the BS of waiting for jailbreaks and unlocks and baseband issues, and not being able to just upgrade.....

.... All this hassle for $467, which equates to 15% more in total cost of ownership, which you're going to probably make up half of when you re-sell the device because factory unlocked devices sell for more.

I spend $1300 a year at STARBUCKS like many people. The US Cellular Companies have done a great job distracting you from the realities of cost of owning cellular service by hiding behind contracts, locked phones, and blurring the total cost be subsidizing a tiny piece of the total cost to make it look like you're getting a deal.

Be a smart consumer.
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Well, i consider myself as a smart consumer.

1- Bought my iphone locked to telus 779 $ ( cheapest iphone plan here is like 85 per month ( if you do not own it)... thats a real joke)

2- Activated it for a plan 25$ / month since i have wi-fi everywhere i am ( no need 3G)

3- went home to find out that where i live there is no coverage even if it is marked as covered on their map.

4- now i am waiting for the unlock ( i have another unlocked iphone so its not that bad)
 
I'm sorry you are having problems with Telus. I am using my iPhone 4 on Telus' Student 55 Plan and yet to run into any issues.

As a "smart consumer" why would you have paid $779 to Telus for a locked phone? A factory unlocked iPhone 4 would have been the same price directly from Apple. The only reason to buy a locked iPhone in Canada is to get the subsidized pricing. I didn't want to pay $700 right now, so I signed and agreed to a locked phone for significant savings on the hardware (I would have the same plan regardless).

Just sell your phone and buy the unlocked version.
 
yanr said:
I'm sorry you are having problems with Telus. I am using my iPhone 4 on Telus' Student 55 Plan and yet to run into any issues.

As a "smart consumer" why would you have paid $779 to Telus for a locked phone? A factory unlocked iPhone 4 would have been the same price directly from Apple. The only reason to buy a locked iPhone in Canada is to get the subsidized pricing. I didn't want to pay $700 right now, so I signed and agreed to a locked phone for significant savings on the hardware (I would have the same plan regardless).

Just sell your phone and buy the unlocked version.
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I had it for 700 (taxes included, didnt mentionned that price since it changes nothing) since i know some people there. Also when i bought it they were impossible to find , so imagine an unlocked one.

Calculated that it would be better to buy the phone and take a 25/month plan instead of 60-100$ plan for 36 months.

I'll wait for the unlokc, im not in a hurry.
 
CZK said:
Well, i consider myself as a smart consumer.

1- Bought my iphone locked to telus 779 $ ( cheapest iphone plan here is like 85 per month ( if you do not own it)... thats a real joke)

2- Activated it for a plan 25$ / month since i have wi-fi everywhere i am ( no need 3G)

3- went home to find out that where i live there is no coverage even if it is marked as covered on their map.

4- now i am waiting for the unlock ( i have another unlocked iphone so its not that bad)
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A smart consumer? If you are smart then you wouldnt whine about getting a iPhone 4 as an iPod just because the dev-team haven't release an unlock for your model. You should have bought a official unlock iPhone 4.
 
andy9l said:
Hah! I enjoy watching your naive confidence. Locking an unlock application? By God, that would be hacked quicker than you can say 'ultrasn0w'.


From the points you further stated, you're clearly not.

I'd also like to take the time in this dead-end thread to bring up the content of your forum signature:

Now, I personally own the following Apple products;
  • A brand new top of the range 2010 27" iMac
  • A top of the range 2009 15" MacBook Pro
  • An iPhone 4
  • An iPhone 3G
  • A top of the range 2006 20" iMac
  • More iPods than apples in my fruit bowl
...and out of all of those, I'd say the one that is lacking functionality and has been almost completely outdone by its competition is the iPhone 4. I don't know if your signature is a troll attempt, but it's laughable to see attached to your name. Apple products are overpriced. It gives us a feeling of elitism. That's why they sell to young girls, arrogant businessmen, and geeks like ourselves.

It actually took me to the point of laughing out loud as I'm currently here using my perfect MBP opposite my girlfriend, whose 10 month old laptop has to be plugged in at all times as the battery died, the noise of the fan is (fortunately) enough to drone out the music she's playing. Not only that but the motherboard has been replaced once (about 1 month ago now), and one of the USB slots doesn't work. I could go on about the speeds, the reliability, etc. but I don't have the time and I hope you've got the idea.

Regarding my point, I mess around with her HTC Desire HD and wonder why Apple haven't cottoned on to the fact that iOS has fallen horribly short of Android OS. Sure, it's smoother, it's probably slightly less quirky - but feature-wise, it sucks. I hate to say it, I really do, but it's the truth.

Anyway, back to the topic. No-one knows. Having a poll is not going to change that. If you think it is, try voting in one of the others we have had here, there's at least 5 so make sure you vote in each!
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Your arguments about androids are correct, but the only thing you seem to miss is that the app pool for the iphone rapes every argument that tyou could bring. There is like 100's of apps for androids and like 100 000's for the iphone. Now if you prefer iOS or androids is another thing and is subjective.




All their computers sell for 200-500 $ more than the competition for the exact same specs or better specs from the competition.

Example: Macbook vs SONY VAIO F Series VPCF13QFX/B NoteBook Intel Core i7 740QM

For the same price ( 1099) sony's viao laptop owns the macbook.

Not even talking about desktops.. they are a real joke for the price.


You'll tell me yeah but they have mac OSX .... I'll tell you get a pc with a osx VMware for your xcode. No logic reason to own a mac besides scripting and a vmware can do it ( or beign a girl who likes shiny things).

Also all your arguments bringing personnal experiences are not valids. I bring facts, try to do the same.
 
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CZK said:
Convince AT&T of what ?

(I meant dev-team charging 25$ for the unlock, who cares paying 25 $ when not waiting for 6 months)

Also i live in canada and my phone is locked to telus the worst company of all.
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At least in Canada you had a choice. You could have bought an unlocked phone at full price from Apple and not be stuck with a subsidized phone from Telus. Those in the US don't have a choice. There are no unlocked phones sold in the US through Apple.
 
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