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Shame.. AT&T is lame for this one
 
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Shame.. AT&T is lame for this one
Why?

The international standards body ITU, TMobile, Sprint, Verizon, most manufacturers from Motorola, HTC, Samsung etc all consider HSPA+ to be 4G.

Why shame on ATT when they are just toting the industry standard line for what is true?
 
Shame.. AT&T is lame for this one

Considering that not even the current implementation of LTE is truly meeting the ITU standard for "4G," then all carriers claiming to have it are pretty lame.

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The international standards body ITU...consider HSPA+ to be 4G.

Actually no, they don't.

http://www.itu.int/ITU-R/index.asp?category=information&rlink=imt-advanced&lang=en

enhanced peak data rates to support advanced services and applications (100 Mbit/s for high and 1 Gbit/s for low mobility were established as targets for research)
 

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Although commonly referred to as a type of 4G wireless service, LTE release 8 currently in use does not satisfy the requirements set forth by the ITU-R organization. Future releases of LTE (referred to as LTE Advanced) are expected to satisfy the requirements to be considered 4G.
 
Actually T-Mobile started marketing their HSPA+ network as 4G before anyone else which led to a competitive advantage b/c most consumers are not knowledgeable about the actual difference b/w 3G and 4G (but obviously 4G sounds better). In order to be able to compete, AT&T had to do the same and began marketing their HSPA+ network as 4G as well even though they were already planning their LTE deployment (which is why they now have 2 4G networks). I can't blame AT&T for this move from a business perspective...if anyone should be blamed, look at T-Mobile.
 
how do you consider the 4s to be partially supported?

In terms of speed.

The iPhone 4S only supports a maximum data rate of 14.4mbps (and the actual speed will be much less than that after overheads).

Some HSPA+ devices sold by AT&T support speeds up to 42mbps.

I don't consider HSPA+ at 42mbps to be 4G, so I certainly don't consider a device limited to only 14.4mbps to be 4G.
 
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