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Is anyone on iOS 6 and cannot FaceTime?

PNutts

PNutts

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Looks like iOS 6.1.3 cannot FaceTime due to an expired cert. Anyone else experiencing this and has found a workaround other than upgrading to iOS 7? For me it's an iPod Touch 5th generation but I'm curious if it also affects iPhones.

The other kid's iPod is 4th generation and not eligible for iOS 7 so Apple released 6.1.6 and FaceTime is OK. Thx.
 
There is a lengthy thread on this subject already created. In short, nearly every iOS device that can run iOS 7, but is on iOS 6, cannot FaceTime.
 
The FaceTime P2P certificate really did expire. You can extract it from iOS' certificate bundle and look at the dates with Keychain Access.
 
It does seem like poor planning on Apple's part. I don't remember if I'm still able to FaceTime on my old 4S still running iOS 5 or not. I'll have to try that later today.
 
Intell said:
The FaceTime P2P certificate really did expire. You can extract it from iOS' certificate bundle and look at the dates with Keychain Access.
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Why would Apple even put an expiration (less than 3 years!) on the FaceTime P2P certificate in the first place?

Is there a valid reason to do that besides Apple taking away features in an effort to force, people who don't want to, to upgrade their OS?

Makes me pretty pissed off that Apple would do that to their loyal customers, whats next? After iOS 8 is my Maps application "certificate" going to expire unless I upgrade from iOS 7? :rolleyes:
 
Looks like you are going to have to upgrade to iOS 7. I had my iPod toch on iOS 6 till just recently, but I never bothered to look at the FaceTime option because I don't use it as much as I do now.

It's probably to force users to update their OS.
I guess they choose to do that by limiting the features.
 
Why are they forcing users to upgrade? Just so they can show off at keynotes and state that they have nearly 100% of users running the latest version of iOS.
 
nnacrumors said:
Why would Apple even put an expiration (less than 3 years!) on the FaceTime P2P certificate in the first place?

Is there a valid reason to do that besides Apple taking away features in an effort to force, people who don't want to, to upgrade their OS?
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FaceTime is secured by SSL. Every SSL certificate, as mandated by international security laws, needs to have an expiration date. The real question is why Apple didn't renew it when there was less than 6 months before expiration.
 
Hi, I'm a Dinosaur, and I refuse to upgrade to iOS 7 or even 8 for that matter! My iDevice can easily run it but I'm too stubborn to get past the flat-redesign and stuck using ancient software like iOS 6 and still expect Apple to update a certificate for an outdated OS that is no longer supported anyways! Steve would have never allowed this! Jony Ive can't design something if his life depended on it! #DownWithTimCook2014

:rolleyes:
 
Are we, to this day, still falling back on the, "Steve would never have allowed this" mantra?

Steve Jobs is dead. May as well shut Apple's doors and go home.
 
Señor said:
Hi, I'm a Dinosaur, and I refuse to upgrade to iOS 7 or even 8 for that matter! My iDevice can easily run it but I'm too stubborn to get past the flat-redesign and stuck using ancient software like iOS 6 and still expect Apple to update a certificate for an outdated OS that is no longer supported anyways! Steve would have never allowed this! Jony Ive can't design something if his life depended on it! #DownWithTimCook2014

:rolleyes:
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I lost you at the part where you said my idevice can easily run it.
Not all older devices perform that good on ios 7 and some slow down considerably.
Or others would like to stay and keep their phone the way it is. Is that a bad thing? They should not have the option to pick what they like instead of being forced?
 
Three things have prevented me from using Facetime for more than just the occasional thing.

1. Privacy. Not everyone wants to answer an FT call.
2. WiFi at work. Until just a week ago work had a T1 line and everyone was on it.
3. Sprint's crappy network.

Out of these three things, only #2 has changed recently. #3 is getting better, but it's not there yet. Consequently, I haven't missed this feature overmuch.

I'm on iOS 6.1.
 
PNutts said:
Thanks, C DM. You always manage to come up with good links. I don't know how this story slipped by me. Maybe because it only affects my kid's iPod.
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I remember this being a hot topic for a little while so figured I'd dig up a link to one of the (main) articles about it.
 
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