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Adobe Photoshop... 6 or 7... or impossible?

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ChronoYu

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I've recently started to make wallpapers, and although I have a Mac, I found that the best way to do it was on my Windows XP, because it has Paint in it.

So I thought of getting Adobe Photoshop for my Mac, but the only Photoshop version available is CS3, which needs 2 gigs of space! My computer is a shared one, so I'd be slaughtered alive if I even THOUGHT of getting something that big for a 'not-so-important-reason'.

I heard from my friends(Windows users btw) who have Photoshop 7 that it's still very good and that CS3 has a lot of other stuff that's confusing.

Now my questions are:
1. Does anyone know where I can find Adobe Photoshop for Mac version 7 (or 6)?
2. Even if I managed to find ^, would I be able to work it on my Mac (OS X Leopard)?
3. And even if it worked, would I be able to use it without having to filter through all the popups telling me that a newer version is out and that I need to upgrade? Any way at all? Or impossible? Because I think I remember someone saying that Apple is a very up-to-date thing, so sticking with an old version isn't possible or wouldn't be good...? Something along those lines....
4. Besides all that, which is better? Adobe Photoshop 6 or 7? Although 7 is an upgrade of 6, doesn't necessarily make it better, as I sometimes find out about certain programs. Is that the case here or is 7 definitely better than 6?
 
Photoshop 7 or earlier do not work at all on Leopard. CS and CS2 work, although there can be some glitches. The only version Adobe support on Leopard is CS3.

As 7 and earlier are so old you are looking at eBay...
 
oh no... I was thinking that was the case... *sigh* CS3 takes up 2 gigs of space right? I wasn't mistaken? There isn't any version that's new but smaller?
Guess I'll just have to try getting it for Windows...
Thanks for replying so soon :)
 
I'd be very surprised is Photoshop CS3 takes up 2Gb of disk space: are you sure you are not looking at the requirement for the full suite? You could check out Photoshop Elements 6. For what you are doing full blown Photoshop is probably overkill
 
Hi,

sorry to be contrary, but Photoshop 7 is the first version that will work on OS X, not Photoshop CS. However, if you have an Intel Mac then it'll be slow and annoying because it's an old PowerPC application.

If you want to spend money for a "quite good" but small paint program then I highly recommend Pixelmator. It's a 50-ish MB download, and its actually shareware so you can try the demo first and decide if it is the software for you.

If you just want something almost exactly like Microsoft Paint, then Paintbrush is worth checking out — and its completely free.
 
That reminds me, I've been meaning to ask this... what's the difference between Photoshop CS3 with Lightroom and Elements? I don't understand the descriptions they gave on them.
What I want to do with Photoshop is like cut & paste here and there, able to cut certain shapes and not just squares out of pictures, leveling, coloring: basically editing. Which should I get?
 
Thomas Harte said:
sorry to be contrary, but Photoshop 7 is the first version that will work on OS X, not Photoshop CS. However, if you have an Intel Mac then it'll be slow and annoying because it's an old PowerPC application.
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It'll work with older versions of OSX, but not Leopard: do a search on Google: this is a widely known fact.

ChronoYu said:
That reminds me, I've been meaning to ask this... what's the difference between Photoshop CS3 with Lightroom and Elements? I don't understand the descriptions they gave on them.
What I want to do with Photoshop is like cut & paste here and there, able to cut certain shapes and not just squares out of pictures, leveling, coloring: basically editing. Which should I get?
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Elements. Lightroom is nothing to do with Photoshop (ignore the name): it's a competitor for Aperture. CS3 is way overpowered for your needs. You can download a trial of Elements to ensure it'll work for you.
 
Thomas Harte said:
Hi,

sorry to be contrary, but Photoshop 7 is the first version that will work on OS X, not Photoshop CS. However, if you have an Intel Mac then it'll be slow and annoying because it's an old PowerPC application.

If you want to spend money for a "quite good" but small paint program then I highly recommend Pixelmator. It's a 50-ish MB download, and its actually shareware so you can try the demo first and decide if it is the software for you.

If you just want something almost exactly like Microsoft Paint, then Paintbrush is worth checking out — and its completely free.
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Hmm.. my Mac's a Intel Core... so a no-go there... *sigh*
I've always known about Photoshop, but never bothered to get it, so I'm kind of set on Photoshop, but I'll look into Pixelmator too. Seen people mention it around quite a bit.
When I was looking for Poster Paint, I also stumbled upon Paintbrush, but wanted to see how Poster Paint was first. Now that you've recommended it, I think I'll actually download it to check it out. Thanks :)
 
ChronoYu said:
When I was looking for Poster Paint, I also stumbled upon Paintbrush, but wanted to see how Poster Paint was first. Now that you've recommended it, I think I'll actually download it to check it out. Thanks :)
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As the developer of Poster Paint I can tell you now: it doesn't do what you want. :p
 
robbieduncan said:
It'll work with older versions of OSX, but not Leopard: do a search on Google: this is a widely known fact.



Elements. Lightroom is nothing to do with Photoshop (ignore the name): it's a competitor for Aperture. CS3 is way overpowered for your needs. You can download a trial of Elements to ensure it'll work for you.
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That's a big relief. But Elements still needs 750mb disc space.. That's not too big is it? ... Okay, maybe it'll work if I uninstall some of my other programs that I don't REALLY need... I'll just try it out first. :D I feel much better now knowing all this.
 
robbieduncan said:
As the developer of Poster Paint I can tell you now: it doesn't do what you want. :p
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Lol, yes I've known that from the beginning. But it's like MS Paint right? That's good enough. Until now I've survived 5 wallpapers with MS Paint on my Windows XP laptop. They're not TOO bad, if I do say so myself. Just took a lot more work to do since I had to edit the color and background and shapes of the pictures that I cut & paste onto it, which is harder to do seeing as Paint is so basic. But survivable, if that's even a word.. :p
So I figured that getting a Paint-similar-app for my Mac would be good... Or would Photoshop be good enough? I'm still stuck on the idea of getting Poster Paint too though...
 
robbieduncan said:
It'll work with older versions of OSX, but not Leopard: do a search on Google: this is a widely known fact.
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Yes, I have idiotically started to believe that I have Photoshop 7 installed on my Leopard Mac, when in fact I have CS. I often forget that Adobe's extremely liberal policy on what you can upgrade from allows you to skip versions (and even entire product transitions if you upgrade from PageMaker to InDesign CS3, for example).

So, I have nothing else to add. Other than that I expect someone will recommend GIMPshop at some point, which is a version of the the free GNU Image Manipulation Program but reorganised so that it feels familiar to Photoshop users. Though I have no direct opinion on that, I do know that ordinary GIMP has one of the worst user interfaces I can recall, following almost none of the modern conventions of anything — though it is quite similar to RISC OS. So avoid ordinary GIMP.
 
Thomas Harte said:
Yes, I have idiotically started to believe that I have Photoshop 7 installed on my Leopard Mac, when in fact I have CS. I often forget that Adobe's extremely liberal policy on what you can upgrade from allows you to skip versions (and even entire product transitions if you upgrade from PageMaker to InDesign CS3, for example).

So, I have nothing else to add. Other than that I expect someone will recommend GIMPshop at some point, which is a version of the the free GNU Image Manipulation Program but reorganised so that it feels familiar to Photoshop users. Though I have no direct opinion on that, I do know that ordinary GIMP has one of the worst user interfaces I can recall, following almost none of the modern conventions of anything — though it is quite similar to RISC OS. So avoid ordinary GIMP.
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Wow, serious? That happens? :eek:

Right, duly noted :) Thanks
 
My bad, Photoshop Elements 6 still requires 1 GIGE of space.... I think there's something preventing me from getting Photoshop.. Any app that can do what I want that's possibly SMALLER? *sigh*
 
ChronoYu said:
But it's like MS Paint right? That's good enough. Until now I've survived 5 wallpapers with MS Paint on my Windows XP laptop. They're not TOO bad, if I do say so myself. Just took a lot more work to do since I had to edit the color and background and shapes of the pictures that I cut & paste onto it, which is harder to do seeing as Paint is so basic. But survivable, if that's even a word.. :p
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Like MS Paint was the goal: I'd not reached that. One example: no copy and paste. Seriously: try something else :)
 
Right, Poster Paint scratched.
I was looking for the free trial for Photoshop Elements 6 for Mac, but only the Windows version has free trial. Or is there no try-out for the Mac version?
 
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