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iphonewiz

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Is it me, or is anyone else getting tired of seeing all these wanna be iPhone models from Sprint and their manufacturing partners.

Funny thing is, even if they managed to make something that looks like an iPhone, and they haven't in my opinion, the OS is what makes the iPhone work!

The attention to detail Apple puts in their products is second to none. As Microsoft knows, you can't copy that!
 
Last time I looked, Microsoft was marketleader by a 11:1 ratio... ;)

Let's not get into why that's the case. I'm sure Ford and Chevy sell more cars than BMW and MB, but that's not an indication of anything.:rolleyes:
 
I reckon Apple will have to strive to keep iPhone on the top shelf and believe me it wont be easy with the likes of Nokia n96 16gb with 5 mega pixel camera, FULLY UNLOCKABLE LEGALLY AND UNBRICKABLE...

i agree these wannabee iphones get irritating from likes of sprint and the Japanese one launched in Japan which translates to IPhone in their language.. but either way they are competitors with Apple and Steveo should not think hes in for a walkover.. There are competitors and the iPhone may be the Wannabe eventually..

So lets see.
 
Competition is good. It will make Apple strive to create an even better product. This is one of the main reasons why Apple products are what they are.

I say bring on the competition- let's see how Apple adapts.
 
Last time I looked, Microsoft was marketleader by a 11:1 ratio... ;)

Not talking about desktops, talking about smart phones. Speaking of which Mobile Windows is a joke and the Zune.....well......

XBox360 is nice. Funny thing there is a lot of Apple folks helped bring that project to the level of success it has and it doesn't use Windows.

To each his own.
 
If the iPod is any indicator on how the iPhone sales will work, here's what will happen.
1) Informed people will buy the iPhone.
2) Less informed people will buy the iPhone copycats because they're "basically the same thing."
3) The same, less informed people, will realize their phone sucks and doesn't do what the iPhone does, even though it might look slightly like one.
4) The same, less informed people, will either exit their contracts early or wait it out..... and then will buy the iPhone.

I worry not about MS' marketshare of phones. Not once, since they've had a Windows Mobile, has there been any excitement about it.
 
None of them sync with iTunes, the #1 online music seller. None of them run OS X. And in June, they will all be left in the dust when the iPhone becomes the device that all smartphones before it have dreamed of being but have never come close.

They're all trying to catch up to iPhone 1.0. V2.0 will shred the smartphone market as it leaps to the top of the pile for commercial/enterprise use.
 
Is it me, or is anyone else getting tired of seeing all these wanna be iPhone models from Sprint and their manufacturing partners.

I think it's great. The more there are, the more Apple will actually have to add features to the iPhone. That's the way things work.

Funny thing is, even if they managed to make something that looks like an iPhone, and they haven't in my opinion, the OS is what makes the iPhone work!

The OS is pretty irrelevant. It's what you do with it, or what it has to do. And this comment is coming from an ex-OS writer and guru.

What makes the iPhone work, is that Apple took the simple path for everything.

1) Apple removed most options.

2) Apple made the menu system dirt simple. But you almost always have to go back through the home page. Not so fun when a web page goes to a map, for example.

3) Apple avoids dealing with memory issues, by avoiding multitasking.

4) Apple avoids looking slow by leaving out sometimes desirable Flash and Java.

5) Apple takes the easy path by avoiding lots of user customization.

*) Most importantly, other OS makers are cobbled by having to support legacy devices without touchscreens and/or with keyboards or just keypads.

Or legacy visuals. Although even the iPhone looks a bit dated. The busy spinner was popular on websites before it came out.

The attention to detail Apple puts in their products is second to none. As Microsoft knows, you can't copy that!

No argument there. Apple definitely goes for the visual polish.
 
Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery. I kinda like the Sprint one, GPS, 3G, etc. But I'm totally in love with my iPhone, everything about it, the operating system, email, internet, iPod, etc. Greatest gadget ever ! And when we can add Apps, wow, watch out !
 
I'm interested in hearing what people think constitutes an "iPhone clone." Is it the form and shape, the touchscreen, the simplicity of the menu and archiving system, better internet, or a combination of the latter?
 
Actually, I don't find it to be annoying at all. It brings more options for phone choice, and forces Apple to not rest on their laurels and try to stay ahead of the game. I would argue they would be behind the game compared to the new Sprint phone if Apple does not release a new iPhone by June, when the Sprint phone releases. 3G and GPS are significant features to not have when others start coming out in droves that do have it.
 
The OS is pretty irrelevant. It's what you do with it, or what it has to do. And this comment is coming from an ex-OS writer and gur.

I definately won't say the OS is irrelevant. The reason Apple can perform the "magic" it does on the iPhone is because it is built on an OS that allows maximum innovation both at the hardware level and software level.

Accellometers, 3D graphic processors, high powered CPU etc. are not possible on the typical OS most mobile phone vendors put on their units. That coupled with a real and programming SDK that executes code lighting fast makes for an amazing development environment. One that allows Apple to do what it does best!
 
Accellometers, 3D graphic processors, high powered CPU etc. are not possible on the typical OS most mobile phone vendors put on their units. That coupled with a real and programming SDK that executes code lighting fast makes for an amazing development environment. One that allows Apple to do what it does best!

The N95 from Nokia has an accelerometer, graphics processor and a powerful CPU. It also has a full library of S60v3 applications. That's why Nokia dominate the world smartphone market and why about 70% of smartphones use Symbian.

As for the clones, don't see the point really. You buy a phone for what it is, not what other phone it looks like.
 
Having watched the Youtube vids of the Samsung I am not impressed. The UI looks uninspired and very slow to respond. I'll be more than happy with a 3G iPhone.
 
Accellometers, 3D graphic processors, high powered CPU etc. are not possible on the typical OS most mobile phone vendors put on their units.

Everything in that sentence is incorrect, at least as far as smartphones go.

Where do you think Apple got the parts to make their phone? Mostly off the shelf from parts bins used in the majority of smartphones for the past five years.

You can get WM and Nokia phones with accelerometers. Many have the same or more powerful graphics coprocessor as the iPhone. Some other phones have more powerful or faster CPUs. (My Samsung i730 comes to mind. 500+ MHz normal speed, WiFi and 3G.)

The fact is, other mobile OS's are more mature at this point. They have common features that the iPhone OS has yet to get, such as Bluetooth support for A2DP, tethering, GPS, file sharing.

To say that any OS can't have this or that, is as incorrect as if someone said that the iPhone OS "can't have Bluetooth or GPS or copy/paste". It's just a matter of adding such things.

I like the iPhone. I hope it succeeds, in spite of the tight control that Jobs wants over its owners. It's good to have more players in the game. But to an engineer and programmer, its guts are not really that unique.
 
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