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Old Dec 11, 2011, 01:45 AM   #1
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"Beamer" App - anyone seen this yet?

I downloaded the "trial" version and it works amazingly well. Has anyone tried this out yet? If so - opinions?

http://beamer-app.com/
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Old Dec 11, 2011, 12:20 PM   #2
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455 views and no one has an opinion?!

It worked really well as a trial...but the checkout page looked a little fishy. I was wondering if someone could weigh in about whether they thought it was a scam or not.
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Old Dec 11, 2011, 12:55 PM   #3
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That looks pretty cool... like airplay for mac!
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Old Dec 11, 2011, 01:47 PM   #4
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Just gave it a try. 720p mkv video. The quality is not great. It uses the computer to convert and stream at the same time.
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Old Dec 11, 2011, 01:52 PM   #5
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What looks "fishy" about the checkout site? Just pay with PayPal if you're concerned. If the software works then they'll probably just be sending you a code to unlock the trial version once they receive payment.
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Old Sep 24, 2013, 02:45 AM   #6
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Just gave it a try. 720p mkv video. The quality is not great. It uses the computer to convert and stream at the same time.
Quality is fine (even beter than iTunes as is has DTS). Your issue is either a bad file or an old computer. Beamer does a great job up to 5 to 6 GB. Bigger files tend to stutter,

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I downloaded the "trial" version and it works amazingly well. Has anyone tried this out yet? If so - opinions?

http://beamer-app.com/
Used to convert MKV to iTunes format which took hours just to find out the movie was rubbish. With Beamer just drag and drop and watch the movie. Next to this with Beamer I can enjoy DTS which is not supported by iTunes. You can also drag and drop SRT files (sub title files) in Beamer easily.
Only real problem I have is with large MKVs (more than 6GB) they tend to stutter (interruption in the play-back.
Hope that with the new WI standard the big-file problem with Beamer disappears
Thumbs up for Beamer

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the app looks promising, but there are no updates to functionality for long time (a.k.a subtitles not working)
Subtitles work fine over here, you are probably doing something wrong.

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This concept is great, please let me know if someone that has purchased this has gotten subtitles to work because most mkv files I have are foreign films for which I really need to have them working and timed right, etc.
No problems with subtitles, works fine. Sometimes movies are 'cut', so you are missing some time at the start, this makes that the SRT file is out of syn. This is not a Beamer problem, but the problem of a 'bad copy' of the movie. Most movies work fine with SRT subtitles.

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I think I'll stick with VLC and airplay. I don't see an advantage to this.
Just compare the difference in picture quality and sound and your sold.

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FYI, for this weekend only, Beamer is on sale for just under $10.

From their twitter page:
"To celebrate the launch of Beamer 1.6, we’re giving a $5.1 “surround sound” discount. Only this weekend!"

Beamer app link

Beamer store link

I'm thinking I'm going to give this a go. I have an older MBP and the price is right.
Beamer is on version 1.7.1

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I'm on the fence about buying this Beamer app it seems to have better sound quality than airplay off my 2011 MacBook Pro but the image quality seems to be not so great.

I use the 15 minute trial version to throw as many videos as possible and do it to see what it was like.

I do like the fact that allows 5.1 surround to go through my receiver something that airplay i wish had. The surround sound functionality is the only reason I'm really even contemplating it.

Has anyone else noticed poor image quality compared airplay??
The image is as good as the file you are playing, I get 1080p on my ATV3; it is far better than normal airplay which is about 480p.

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In which usage scenario don't you get 5.1 sound from AirPlay? Works for me every time, except for screen mirroring, of course.
PS OS X ML is even that smart, that if you play a movie in iTunes full screen and had mirroring turned on, it seems to revert back to simple movie streaming, instead of on-the-fly transcoding, mirroring would call for.
But you don't get DTS, with Beamer you do.

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What Mac are you using?

I've sold my MBA. Does anybody know of Beamer-like apps that run on Windows 8 in conjunction with an Apple TV? I'd be curious to try out a cheap Windows 8 laptop with a Beamer-like application. Or maybe just concede and use an HDMI cable.
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Old Sep 24, 2013, 04:13 PM   #7
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But you don't get DTS, with Beamer you do.
Are you sure, DTS does not get transcoded to DD5.1? I'm asking because I don't get how AirPlay receiver side in AppleTV could possibly handle DTS in current state of things?
EDIT: Beamer FB page reveals the truth:
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New: Surround Sound Support!

• Supports all common formats (e.g. Dolby Digital (AC3), Dolby Digital HD, DTS and DTS-HD).
• Depending on your receiver hardware, you might need to set the option ‘Dolby Digital’ to ‘On’ (in ‘Settings’ > ‘Audio & Video’).
Please note that Beamer converts all surround sound audio to Dolby Digital 5.1.
So, in essence, you don't get DTS, you can just spare the preflight conversion of audio and Beamer will do it on-the-fly. But you won't get DTS sound quality. Now, it remains to be seen, to what bitrate do they transcode. In HB I can at least convert DTS to DD5.1 640kbps.

EDIT 2: just tested, it converts to DD5.1, 448kbps@48kHz (or possibly @source sample rate)

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Old Sep 24, 2013, 06:17 PM   #8
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The image is as good as the file you are playing, I get 1080p on my ATV3; it is far better than normal airplay which is about 480p.
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I play the same file on Beamer and the then on Airplay Mirroring using Movist as my Media player, for comparison sake, playing one and then trying the other way. I have an ATV3 . With Beamer the picture quality appears granier. I've tried a dozen or so files, in various formats. MP4, AVI, MKV. Results are the same each time. The sound is vastly superior with Beamer though. Loving that 5.1 throught my Harmon Kardon/Klipsch Setup. Overall Beamer is worth the money I spent.
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Old Apr 1, 2012, 04:26 AM   #9
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i like it

the app looks promising, but there are no updates to functionality for long time (a.k.a subtitles not working)
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Old May 8, 2012, 09:59 AM   #10
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Beamer App Review

IMHO this App is fundamentally Awesome and handily solves a major frustration in establishing an elegant Apple based media center on a home network (i.e. the inability to play most formats of digital video media).

In my setup I have an old MacBook Pro Core 2 duo with a 750 GB HDD running OSX 10.7 connected with a LAN cable to a Time Capsule (equally Airport Extreme or other Wifi router) A Mac Mini would be superior but this machine was spare following the purchase of a top of the line MBP. On this machine I have set Beamer as the default app for .AVI and .MKV and set up the free Team Viewer app (from the App Store) on this machine and the iPhone 4.

Now all I have to do is hit the Team Viewer App on the iPhone (from anywhere on the LAN or internet), pick the movie file i want to display and double click it - now it's on TV in superb quality via my Apple TV 3, voila c'est manifique! Better yet, once the movie is loaded on the Apple TV, the Apple remote works to pause/resume, FF and RW so no clumsy messing with gadgets interferes with the enjoyment of home cinema.

No jailbreak required (even were it available for the Apple TV 3 which it isn't at the time of writing) and no more hours of tedious re-encoding and moving of GBs of data just to get a video you already have into iTunes.

This is one of the few pieces of software I have ever come across where I would have actively sought out a way to financially contribute to the developer even if it was free. At EUR 7 or equivalent to license all of my machines it is super value and purchase was simple, with license key delivered instantly by link and email.

I can easily imagine this Beamer App is not on the App store because it is too useful in terms of sidestepping frustrating limitations imposed by Apple (and hence clearly off Apple's roadmap). I would say: grab it quick before the developers get hired by Apple and the whole thing disappears.

In the mean time I am excited to see what these guys do to build on this platform in terms of surround sound and subtitles.

5* superb.

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Old Feb 10, 2013, 02:17 AM   #11
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the app looks promising, but there are no updates to functionality for long time (a.k.a subtitles not working)
That is incorrect, they updated from 1.5.2 to 1.5.3 and just at the and of January to 1.5.4. Next to this they released 1.6 beta with surround sound support. I have no problem adding a SRT subtitle file to the movie, works fine for me.

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In my experience, Beamer has worked nearly flawlessly. Unlike AirFlick. Erica hasn't kept Airflick up or improved it for several years. The FFMPEG that it uses is out of date, even freshly compiled 64bit ffmpeg doesn't improve anything. I rarely get Airflick to work well, it also seems to be a lot more taxing on the system than Beamer is too.

The only downside to Beamer is the price, it is a bit pricy for what you get, but it does do the job better than most other solutions thus far.
Pricy? Really, it cost USD 15........

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Well, I was skeptical, after trying out AirParrot, which was a totally worthless due to the lack of smooth video. So after so many posts about Beamer, I just had to give it a go. Unfortunately, it was marginally ok. Works fine, wirelessly for mkv's made from dvd (small 3-4GB file size and low nitrate) but continually buffered on mkv's from BR (30-40GB file size and high nitrate). When it does play, the video appeared to be smooth but the continual buffering makes it unusable. It also does not broadcast DD 5.1, only PCM stereo. Wired connections would probably help things out, but might as well use VLC if your wiring you aTV/computer/router all together.

It is usable if you are watching mkv's made from dvd's and sound is through the tv not an AVR. So there is a niche for it.
Have you tried the 1.6 Beta with DD 5.1 support? It also runs much smoother, however it still has buffering issues with large files.

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IMHO this App is fundamentally Awesome and handily solves a major frustration in establishing an elegant Apple based media center on a home network (i.e. the inability to play most formats of digital video media).

In my setup I have an old MacBook Pro Core 2 duo with a 750 GB HDD running OSX 10.7 connected with a LAN cable to a Time Capsule (equally Airport Extreme or other Wifi router) A Mac Mini would be superior but this machine was spare following the purchase of a top of the line MBP. On this machine I have set Beamer as the default app for .AVI and .MKV and set up the free Team Viewer app (from the App Store) on this machine and the iPhone 4.

Now all I have to do is hit the Team Viewer App on the iPhone (from anywhere on the LAN or internet), pick the movie file i want to display and double click it - now it's on TV in superb quality via my Apple TV 3, voila c'est manifique! Better yet, once the movie is loaded on the Apple TV, the Apple remote works to pause/resume, FF and RW so no clumsy messing with gadgets interferes with the enjoyment of home cinema.

No jailbreak required (even were it available for the Apple TV 3 which it isn't at the time of writing) and no more hours of tedious re-encoding and moving of GBs of data just to get a video you already have into iTunes.

This is one of the few pieces of software I have ever come across where I would have actively sought out a way to financially contribute to the developer even if it was free. At EUR 7 or equivalent to license all of my machines it is super value and purchase was simple, with license key delivered instantly by link and email.

I can easily imagine this Beamer App is not on the App store because it is too useful in terms of sidestepping frustrating limitations imposed by Apple (and hence clearly off Apple's roadmap). I would say: grab it quick before the developers get hired by Apple and the whole thing disappears.

In the mean time I am excited to see what these guys do to build on this platform in terms of surround sound and subtitles.

5* superb.
Surround sound is available in the 1.6 Beta available on their website!

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This concept is great, please let me know if someone that has purchased this has gotten subtitles to work because most mkv files I have are foreign films for which I really need to have them working and timed right, etc.
Yes it works, just drop the SRT file into the Beamer app and voila!
The only downside with SRT files is synchronization, so I put forward a feature request to Beamer to make a time correction to the SRT file for synchronisation.

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id rather just convert files to MP4 and hve them in my itunes library
Only for keepers, you really want to remux for ages just to find out that the movie sucks?

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VLC and Airplay to my Apple TV has been lagging so bad!
The picture quality of airplay is not meant to watch movies is a very low quality (less then 480p).
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Old Feb 22, 2013, 08:35 PM   #12
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LOVE beamer, the higher quality the movie, the higher quality it plays.
definitely money well spent!
way better than air parrot or any other crappy streaming app.
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This concept is great, please let me know if someone that has purchased this has gotten subtitles to work because most mkv files I have are foreign films for which I really need to have them working and timed right, etc.
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id rather just convert files to MP4 and hve them in my itunes library
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I purchased the app. It works fine on "normal" files, but when an mkv file goes over a certain size, it will randomly lag. Sometimes it works fine for 16-120 minutes (in HD) but other times it will lag every 20 seconds or so.

Other than that, a fine application for your normal wear and tear .avi downloads when I cba to convert/add to iTunes library. 3.5/5 stars
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I think I'll stick with VLC and airplay. I don't see an advantage to this.
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I think I'll stick with VLC and airplay. I don't see an advantage to this.
VLC and Airplay to my Apple TV has been lagging so bad!
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Been using Beamer for a couple days now and it's so much better than AirPlaying movies to my Apple TV. For me, it's exactly what I wanted AirPlay to be, and more!

With this app, I can put the screensaver on my display or turn the display off while watching a movie. With AirPlay, I couldn't do that. This app is pretty cool. Works great.
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App works well on my 2011 iMac.

I use handbrake to convert my blurays and dvd's, and import into iTunes for permanent storage.

I use Beemer for those Avi and MKv videos that I receive that I just want to watch once and delete.
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how is this any different to airflick?http://macupdate.com/app/mac/36512/airflick

It's been doing mostly the same thing for a while now (besides streaming incompatible files). There's also another advantage... it's free.
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how is this any different to airflick?http://macupdate.com/app/mac/36512/airflick

It's been doing mostly the same thing for a while now (besides streaming incompatible files). There's also another advantage... it's free.
In my experience, Beamer has worked nearly flawlessly. Unlike AirFlick. Erica hasn't kept Airflick up or improved it for several years. The FFMPEG that it uses is out of date, even freshly compiled 64bit ffmpeg doesn't improve anything. I rarely get Airflick to work well, it also seems to be a lot more taxing on the system than Beamer is too.

The only downside to Beamer is the price, it is a bit pricy for what you get, but it does do the job better than most other solutions thus far.
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FYI, app is on sale for $10 today and most of tomorrow.

http://deals.macupdate.com/deal/1400...eid=7607b7bf07
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Sorry to ask this again but I would like to know if any MR members are watching HD content with Beamer using their MBA + ATV?
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Sorry to ask this again but I would like to know if any MR members are watching HD content with Beamer using their MBA + ATV?
Yes, but files bigger than 4 GB have problems, they buffer quite a lot. It's not related to the hardware, but the app as it seems.
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I would rather just convert everything to M4V & add it to my iTunes library. Then I use ATV the way it was intended.
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