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Old Jun 18, 2012, 06:38 PM   #1
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Macbook Air 2012 - LG vs Samsung LCD

OK campers - we are back to this...Just got my new 2012 Macbook Air 11" i7 256GB SSD/8GB RAM

I knew immediately that the LCD was a bit flat (or less contrast) as well as some blacks appeared more blue. After checking, I found that my new 2012 Macbook Air has a LG screen. I compared it to my Mid-2011 Macbook Air i7 (which has a Samsung LCD) and the 2011 had more contrast, etc.

Not that the LG screens are bad or anything, it is I am just use to the Samsung screen I have in my 2011 and do not want to go through the calibrations. Personal choice, Just like the Samsung better.

You can see what your LCD manufacturer is by doing the following:

Launch the Terminal (/Applications/Utilities/)
Copy and paste the following command onto a single line and hit return:

ioreg -lw0 | grep IODisplayEDID | sed "/[^<]*</s///" | xxd -p -r | strings -6

Read the output, you are looking for an “LP” prefix to numbers reported back:
LP133WP1-TJA3
Color LCD

If the prefix is not “LP” then you have a Samsung display and there’s no need to use the color profile or to follow the rest of the instructions, if it does start with LP (like the example shown), then proceed

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Old Jun 18, 2012, 06:44 PM   #2
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oh boy.. here we go again
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Old Jun 18, 2012, 06:55 PM   #3
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You can fix up color display on your LG display by using a different color profile. Google it.
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Old Jun 18, 2012, 07:50 PM   #4
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My new 13" Air says: LTH133BT01A03

A quick duckduck search tells me this is a Samsung panel.
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Old Jun 18, 2012, 09:42 PM   #5
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I returned mine - the LG is not bad or anything, even with color calibration, I prefer the Samsung panal's contrast.

To each our own...
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Old Jun 19, 2012, 12:39 AM   #6
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I returned mine - the LG is not bad or anything, even with color calibration, I prefer the Samsung panal's contrast.

To each our own...
Damit, I have the LG on my new 13" air. I knew my screen looked a little off compared to my girlfriends 2011 13" air.
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Old Jun 19, 2012, 04:11 AM   #7
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My new 13" Air says: LTH133BT01A03

A quick duckduck search tells me this is a Samsung panel.
Ditto, Samsung here as well.

Oh and it's beautiful
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Old Jun 19, 2012, 05:23 AM   #8
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Any problems with uneven backlighting on either the LG or Samsung displays on the 2012 models?
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Old Jun 22, 2012, 09:50 PM   #9
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My new 13" Air says: LTH133BT01A03

A quick duckduck search tells me this is a Samsung panel.
Same here! Sweet.
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Old Jun 23, 2012, 01:15 AM   #10
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One that that makes me feel a little better about my LG screen is at full brightness, it is a tad brighter than the Samsung. I held both side by side with the same content on.
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Old Jul 5, 2012, 10:17 PM   #11
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My new 13" Air says: LTH133BT01A03

A quick duckduck search tells me this is a Samsung panel.
Mine is this as well for my 13" i5/4/256 from Best Buy
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Old Jul 5, 2012, 10:49 PM   #12
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Just thought I would join in on the conversation. Mine is a 13" base model i5/256GB/4. It has a Samsung panel and a Samsung SSD. I was considering returning it and ordering one with 8GB of RAM. I was also considering getting the MBP with the faster processor and 8GB of RAM for the same price as this model. But I'm not sure what to do. I like having the SSD. I have an SSD in my Windows computer, and it is MUCH faster than anything with a HDD. And I'm not really excited about the resolution difference, which I noticed long before I found out that there was actually a difference.

I'll probably just stick with what I can get from BB. Either the MBA that I have, or the MBP that costs the same. I'm not really sure if I even need the 8GB of RAM.

One other thing that I noticed is that along the very bottom of my screen, it is slightly darker than the rest of the screen. But I noticed that on all of the 11" and 13" ones that I saw at the Apple store and Best Buy. It's only noticeable on white screens.

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Old Jun 25, 2012, 03:54 PM   #13
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oh boy.. here we go again
true enough.

for the exercise I did the Terminal thingy and my new 13" Air has an LG display.
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my LG lcd television is a cracker, and so is my Samsung colour laser printer.
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Old Jun 25, 2012, 04:27 PM   #14
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true enough.

OP needs to get out more
Anybody wanna place a bet? There's going to be the exact same topic next summer when the Haswell MBA's come out.

... Unless Apple sticks to one type of screen instead of 2.
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Old Jun 26, 2012, 01:35 AM   #15
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Anybody wanna place a bet? There's going to be the exact same topic next summer when the Haswell MBA's come out.

... Unless Apple sticks to one type of screen instead of 2.
I bet Apple will use Sharp displays next summer
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Old Jun 26, 2012, 01:40 AM   #16
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I bet Apple will use Sharp displays next summer
I've owned Japanese phones with Sharp displays in them (as the phone themselves were by Sharp).

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Old Jun 19, 2012, 03:32 AM   #17
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My 2011 Air had the LG and used it without any further color calibration. I had no problems with it in the long run. The biggest shock for me was that there is such high variance in parts for the same model.
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Old Jun 23, 2012, 09:24 PM   #18
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I just picked up an 11" i7/256/8GB from the store and it has the Samsung SSD and LG screen. Browsing through the replies on this thread, it seems that every 2012 11" has the LG screen.
Are there any other definitive patterns like this ?
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Old Jul 7, 2012, 10:07 PM   #19
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Are there any other definitive patterns like this ?
I had a 2012 11" with the AUO screen.
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Old Jul 7, 2012, 11:32 PM   #20
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Went to the local Apple store today in part to see for myself if there are significant differences between the different panels, and was surprised to find that 10/10 Air's on display had LTH panels. Aren't most of the panels people here end up with LG's?

Anyway, I'm curious what the actual fraction of Samsung panels is (in part because I'm considering getting one myself), so started this poll:

http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=1400411

Hope that's OK. I'm not trying to compete with this thread here, just trying to get some stats going.
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Old Jul 8, 2012, 12:19 AM   #21
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Quite the difference

So, for the past 3 weeks or so I've been battling the LG vs Samsung display issues with Apple and have jumped through hoops in order to get what I paid for.

I guess my eyes are just calibrated to a Samsung display from my previous MBAs and I would not accept any less. When I ordered my MBA, (i5, 256, 8G) it's display seemed different, not as bright. After reading here about the differences, I contacted Apple, after which I had to speak with a multitude of people:

1. Applecare
2. Sales Specialist Team Member
3. Customer Service
4. Apple Store Genius Bar rep

Finally, I got the Sales rep to accept sending me a replacement which I hoped was a "good" one. I wasn't too sure about getting the right one so I used my wifes apple ID and order another MBA, same config with the Education discount (you can only have one order of an item with the Education discount on an apple ID).

I booted up the replacement and sped through the setup .... LG display. I kind of knew it from the moment I booted it up ... no go and my wife was pretty bummed about it for me.

Then the day after arrived the MBA I ordered using her account, I booted it up and immediately my wife said, this is a good one. The two MBAs were sitting right next to each other and you could see the difference in the brightness and sharpness. She was right and I finally hit the jackpot.

So, off the inital two MBAs go ... back to Apple for a return. Happy camper and glad I finally got this sorted out.

FYI .. not sure if it matters, the "good" MBA came from a factory addressed to someone in California .. and then to me.

The "bad" ones were shipped directly to me without a stop in CA.

Just an FYI ...
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Old Jul 8, 2012, 04:46 AM   #22
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I guess my eyes are just calibrated to a Samsung display ...
That's a new one. Thanks for the laugh.

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FYI .. not sure if it matters, the "good" MBA came from a factory addressed to someone in California .. and then to me. The "bad" ones were shipped directly to me without a stop in CA.
What, you think the "bad" panels are removed in CA and replaced with "good" panels on some MBAs? I didn't think this thread could get any more bizarre but you did it. Congrats.

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Old Jul 8, 2012, 12:27 AM   #23
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Returned my 13/8/256 MBA with the LG display today. The Apple store employee asked why. I explained the whole business with the varying quality of the displays. Another Apple employee, a manager, overhead my conversation and was very curious about this, so I obliged and did the Pink Lotus Flower experiment, as well as the text demonstration. Both of them were amazed at the difference between the displays. Both of them fully agreed with me that the Samsung display was superior in term of image quality and text quality.

Just ordered another MBA. If I don't get the Samsung display, it will go back as well, and I will be done with it.

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Education discount.
So, are you saying that you got a Samsung display using the education discount? I'm curious, because I'm purchasing mine this way as well, and I wondered if Apple might be shipping the LG displays to get back the loss on the discount. That is, I wonder if the the cost of the LG display is less the Samsung. I wonder if one has a better chance to get the Samsung if they pay full price?

I'm giving it one more chance then I'm done.
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Old Jul 8, 2012, 12:29 AM   #24
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Returned my 13/8/256 MBA with the LG display today. The Apple store employee asked why. I explained the whole business with the varying quality of the displays. Another Apple employee, a manager, overhead my conversation and was very curious about this, so I obliged and did the Pink Lotus Flower experiment, as well as the text demonstration. Both of them were amazed at the difference between the displays. Both of them fully agreed with me that the Samsung display was superior in term of image quality and text quality.

Just ordered another MBA. If I don't get the Samsung display, it will go back as well, and I will be done with it
Wow, pretty impressive story. I can't believe that Apple gets away with this without being called out by Anandtech or another tech site.
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Old Jun 23, 2012, 10:01 PM   #25
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... it doesn't seem like anyone (at least from those that have posted in this thread) has gotten a non-LG display on a 2012 11".
What about the 13" 2012 Air screens? Are they all Samsungs -- or a mix -- or ??
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